I can't believe some people

esandes · 12-23-2002, 12:12 AM

These stupid fools who ask if a power adder will void their warranty. duh. Of course it will.

VicRattlehead · 12-23-2002, 03:33 AM

yes and no, if you have a power adder and your power windows dont work, the warrenty will still cover that part, but yea what your saying is true, a PA will void most and all engine/drivetran parts of the warrenty.

stangt00 · 12-23-2002, 02:01 PM

I blew my engine about 6 months ago, and ford replaced it under warranty

I had power adders on it too, Chip, Cold air, Trottle body. Funny thing is, the reason it blew, I had the rev limiter taken off when I go the chip burned. Doing about 90, miss-shifted from 4th back to 3rd instead of 5th. BANG! Killed 2 cylinders. $10,000 worth of work under warranty. The put all my power adders back on too. I guess I am lucky they did otherwise I would have been sh1t out of luck.

Hammer · 12-23-2002, 03:10 PM

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$10,000 worth of work under warranty. The put all my power adders back on too. I guess I am lucky they did otherwise I would have been sh1t out of luck.

I would say you're EXTREMELY lucky.

I have heard of Ford working on the latest PCM software\firmware. They say it will be able to track not only codes but mph and rpm figures for several hundred miles...

Take it in, they hook up the computer and see 7000 rpm, and the "red alert" light is going to go off.

Glad you got it fixed. But in my opinion, folks shouldn't mod a car if they can't afford to bail themselves out if something goes BOOM!

stangt00 · 12-23-2002, 03:25 PM

I would never do that again, trust me. I had the chip redone to include a rev limiter now so it doesnt happen again.

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I would say you're EXTREMELY lucky.

Yes, I was extremely lucky in that case. I wouldnt recommend anyone doing what I did. But I did get a new motor out of it

I also feel like I finally got something back for all the money I have spent on vehicles and non warranty work.

SMOKE · 12-23-2002, 03:41 PM

stangt00
Ok lucky, you got some numbers for the Powerball?

As Hammer pointed out you ducked a bullet, but there are dealerships that are mod friendly but usually not that friendly.

stangt00 · 12-23-2002, 03:53 PM

Actually, I had purchased the extended warranty when I bought the car (normally never do), and it was the warranty company who told the dealership to go ahead and replace it without even investigating the cause.

Bluefox91LX · 12-23-2002, 07:26 PM

a chip, cold air, and a throttle body are not power adders.

power adders are Nitrous, Superchargers, and Turbos....not bolt-ons.

you crazy modular guys!!!!

stangt00 · 12-23-2002, 07:45 PM

Let's see, if I put something on my car, and it makes more power on the Dyno, then it

ADDED POWER. Technically, it may have freed up power that was already there, but the end result is "MORE AVAILABLE POWER". God, why do people have to post just to try to sound intelligent.

The Deuce · 12-23-2002, 08:30 PM

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why do people have to post just to try to sound intelligent

Because they are. He is more correct than you in the use of the term "power adder". In fact, I've seen this discussion go rounds many a time. I'm going to post a poll in the Blue Oval Lounge to see what the consensus is here.

I've always held to the idea that "power adder" meant F/I or n2o. I let it slide, but you're asking for a whooping with the additiude you threw back. Notice any sarcasm in his response?

stangt00 · 12-23-2002, 09:07 PM

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Technically, it may have freed up power that was already there

As I said, bolt on do this /\ and does not "Add power". So, why cant we all just get along? You say Juice, I say Nos. People will understand. Sorry, I get a little defensive. I know the terminology, but I have gotten used to the slang/ebonics way of speaking. I will try to be more "intelligent" from now on.

Bluefox91LX · 12-23-2002, 11:37 PM

wow! i didnt mean to turn this into a defensive argument....but a "power adder" was always different than a "bolt-on" in 5.0land.

bolt ons will probably not void any warranty. (unless it's big things like heads, cam or an intake, or otherwise) but use of Nitrous oxide or a supercharger or a turbo will probably kill a warranty. i am not completely sure on this because i am a foxbody owner and they aint kia's! (hehe, no ten year warranty here!) check with the part manufacturer and your ford dealership for further info on your warranty.

there, did i sound smart enough for you modular guys?!?!?!

Hammer · 12-24-2002, 01:18 AM

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bolt ons will probably not void any warranty.

By law, a dealership cannot refuse work unless they can prove a certain modification was the cause of a failure, but at many dealerships, getting them to work under such guidelines require a lawyer and court costs. Not worth it in my opinion...

Also, if a dealership found out someone was by-passing the rev limiter and a failure occurred, you can bet your behind that they're not going to fix it under warranty.

As far as the term "power adder".....
in most cases it is forms of forced induction such as blowers, turbos, or nitrous oxide. It is usually not used in reference to normal bolt-ons such as throttle bodies....

DAN-MAN · 12-24-2002, 02:29 AM

Here's a simple bit of advice.

Mod the car after the warranty expires!

Daniel.

mlambrecht82 · 12-24-2002, 03:31 AM

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Originally posted by DAN-MAN
Here's a simple bit of advice.

Mod the car after the warranty expires!

Daniel.

How can anyone in their right mind wait that long!!!

12-23-2002, 12:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
esandes Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 72	I can't believe some people These stupid fools who ask if a power adder will void their warranty. duh. Of course it will. __________________ SSS 98 GT w/ lots of bolt-ons

12-23-2002, 03:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
VicRattlehead Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Chicago 'burbs Posts: 16	yes and no, if you have a power adder and your power windows dont work, the warrenty will still cover that part, but yea what your saying is true, a PA will void most and all engine/drivetran parts of the warrenty. __________________ 1966 Thunderbird Convertible 428ci 1966 Thunderbird Town Hardtop 428ci 1996 Thunderbird LX Sport 281ci Powered by a 2000 "PI" 4.6L go fast goodies: Fordchip.com reflashed EEC and chip, Modified 4R70W Trans, MarkVIII/Mustang Torque Converter, March pullies, 9mm FRPP wires, -2 Degree colder 12C plugs, 90mm MAF and Compucar Nitrous 125hp jets. My Website My E-Mail Member of these car clubs: MidwestFords, Chicagoland Thunderbirds, TCCoA, VTCI. 9/11 United We Stand Let's Roll!!!

12-23-2002, 02:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
stangt00 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 143	I blew my engine about 6 months ago, and ford replaced it under warranty I had power adders on it too, Chip, Cold air, Trottle body. Funny thing is, the reason it blew, I had the rev limiter taken off when I go the chip burned. Doing about 90, miss-shifted from 4th back to 3rd instead of 5th. BANG! Killed 2 cylinders. $10,000 worth of work under warranty. The put all my power adders back on too. I guess I am lucky they did otherwise I would have been sh1t out of luck. __________________ 2000 GT 80mm Pro-M mass air, 24lb injectors, 75mm BBK T/B, K&N Filter Cold Air, 1/2" Phenolic intake spacer, Underdrive Pulleys, Dyno Tuned Autologic Chip, FMS Shorty Headers, Mac Prochamber 2 1/2" Off Road H pipe, 2 Chamber Flowmasters, Steeda lowering springs. Steeda Tri-Ax Short Throw shifter, Steeda Power slot rotors w/ Hawk Pro pads, 3.73 FRP Gears. Headwork and Comp cams install in progress.

12-23-2002, 03:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
stangt00 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 143	Actually, I had purchased the extended warranty when I bought the car (normally never do), and it was the warranty company who told the dealership to go ahead and replace it without even investigating the cause. __________________ 2000 GT 80mm Pro-M mass air, 24lb injectors, 75mm BBK T/B, K&N Filter Cold Air, 1/2" Phenolic intake spacer, Underdrive Pulleys, Dyno Tuned Autologic Chip, FMS Shorty Headers, Mac Prochamber 2 1/2" Off Road H pipe, 2 Chamber Flowmasters, Steeda lowering springs. Steeda Tri-Ax Short Throw shifter, Steeda Power slot rotors w/ Hawk Pro pads, 3.73 FRP Gears. Headwork and Comp cams install in progress.

12-23-2002, 07:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
stangt00 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 143	Let's see, if I put something on my car, and it makes more power on the Dyno, then it ADDED POWER. Technically, it may have freed up power that was already there, but the end result is "MORE AVAILABLE POWER". God, why do people have to post just to try to sound intelligent. __________________ 2000 GT 80mm Pro-M mass air, 24lb injectors, 75mm BBK T/B, K&N Filter Cold Air, 1/2" Phenolic intake spacer, Underdrive Pulleys, Dyno Tuned Autologic Chip, FMS Shorty Headers, Mac Prochamber 2 1/2" Off Road H pipe, 2 Chamber Flowmasters, Steeda lowering springs. Steeda Tri-Ax Short Throw shifter, Steeda Power slot rotors w/ Hawk Pro pads, 3.73 FRP Gears. Headwork and Comp cams install in progress.

12-23-2002, 03:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
SMOKE Old School ROUSH Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Stockbridge, GA Posts: 530	stangt00 Ok lucky, you got some numbers for the Powerball? As Hammer pointed out you ducked a bullet, but there are dealerships that are mod friendly but usually not that friendly.

12-23-2002, 07:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bluefox91LX Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 70	a chip, cold air, and a throttle body are not power adders. power adders are Nitrous, Superchargers, and Turbos....not bolt-ons. you crazy modular guys!!!!

12-23-2002, 11:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
Bluefox91LX Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 70	wow! i didnt mean to turn this into a defensive argument....but a "power adder" was always different than a "bolt-on" in 5.0land. bolt ons will probably not void any warranty. (unless it's big things like heads, cam or an intake, or otherwise) but use of Nitrous oxide or a supercharger or a turbo will probably kill a warranty. i am not completely sure on this because i am a foxbody owner and they aint kia's! (hehe, no ten year warranty here!) check with the part manufacturer and your ford dealership for further info on your warranty. there, did i sound smart enough for you modular guys?!?!?!

12-24-2002, 02:29 AM	#14 (permalink)
DAN-MAN Confederate Cowboy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southeast Missouri Posts: 546	Here's a simple bit of advice. Mod the car after the warranty expires! Daniel. __________________ DAN-MAN RHC MEMBER #25

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