00'GT vs. 01'Camaro SS

[00'BlackSteed]

I have a 00'GT and last sat. I raced a 01'Camaro SS. We pulled up to the stop sign and he revved his engine. I rolled down my window and said, "lets do this!" We both took off and I pulled a 1/2 a car length ripping thru 1st and 2nd (thanks to my 3.73:1 gears)but as soon as I shifted to 3rd it was all over. He pulled about a car length ahead of me. We tried it again at the next two stop signs and it was the same result. I wasn't too disappointed considering all I have are gears, a K&N, underdrive pulleys and Flowmaster(3 chamber)exhaust. My Question is: How can I improve my 3rd gear power?

[SaleenGTS]

Originally posted by 00'BlackSteed:
My Question is: How can I improve my 3rd gear power?

To improve your upper rpm power, you need to improve your upper rpm breathing. Like a good set of heads or port yours, or an Intake, cam, blah blah blah. A good set of headers might help too. If you want ultimate top end power, you know what you need to get Tell you the truth, I don't know too much about the new modular motors, so I really don't know wat all they have available out there. I just know what it taks on any car to get high rpm performance.

Also, I know Saleen just came out with a new computer for your car. The powerflash. It's like $200 and from what I have heard and read, really boosts power....like 20 rwhp.

Good Luck



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Dustin
89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp UNTUNED(TFS Intake, spacer,Heads and #2 cam, BD-11A 9#(only boosting 6???WTF),1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MSD 6BTM,FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes and H-Pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55 lots more...

12.564@118.49 on street tires is my best so far. Still untuned

[Mercury]

Stock 99+ heads flow pretty darn good, I think the intake manifold and throttle body are the main culprits. Go to gefracing.com, they have BUllit Intakes for 349 dollars with the throttle body, they supposedly flow 50 percent better, but i have yet to see any flow numbers, plus its alunimum.

Long tube headers like from BBK will help top end out, that and a off-road H-Pipe, or hiflow cats should be a little extra kick.

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64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, 3:1 rear gear. Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 windsor valves, 11:1 comp, 1.7:1 sled rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, modified autolite 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. GT Apperance pkg. Period white wall tires. And to many others to list

2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle

64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car. Mods, Rust, rust, and more rust

Heads, headers, cam and intake all will drastically increase your mid-high end power. I'm damn impressed that you were able to do so well against the '01 ss being so stock.

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts);
30# injectors; JMS Chip; 190 lb fp; TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113)

[00'BlackSteed]

Hey thanks for your help guys. Considering my budget i will look into an off-road H-pipe and the BULLIT intake. Hopefully this will let me live up to my license plate cover:Eatin up Chevys and Sh...... out hondas. See ya on the road.

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00'GT,(S281 clone),3 chamber flows,K&N filter,BBK underdrive pulleys & 3.73 gears. No time slip as of yet(est.13.7-13.9)

[Lizard King]

Same result when I tried. They simply have more HP and the 6 speed realy helps them.

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13.66 @ 100.3MPH, Stock (except for K&N Filter)

• Quartermile run

[46stang]

the one ss ls1 i raced was from a second gear roll on and we were dead even up to 105mph, when the next red light came real fast, so we shut down. he was real pissed, he cut across 3 lanes to turn at that light and wouldn't even look over at me so i guess my sig, should get you there? good luck!

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96 stang,ported 99 heads, 99 intake, 99 cams,Steeda power pullies,Kirban adj.reg.,Pro-m 87,24#inj.,70mm t/b,BBK longtube headers,Bassani x-pipe w/cats, Dynomax ultraflow catback,iat mod, home depot ram air, k@n,373's,cobra brakes,fms spings, tri-ax shifter.
best et 13.80
best mph 103.3
bfg street tires,bakersfield, ca

[exgmguy]

Those LS1's really come on in the last half of the 1/4 mile.

[1BAD89]

Get some BBK longtubes, and an o/r h-pipe. That should compliment your 3 chambers quite well.

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3:55's,BBK Off-Road H-pipe,BBK jet-hot coated equal length shorty headers,BBK 70mm Throttle Body,BBK adjustable clutch quadrant,C & L 76mm Mass air meter,Cobra R's 17x9 w/ 245's,Trick Flow Intake,Flowmaster Force II exhaust system, Super Duty T5,Centerforce II Clutch,Heavy Duty Radiator,9mm Ford racing plug wires,Accel cap and Rotor

www.geocities.com/i8urvpr/JM.html?987369348700

[gt-hunter]

Steed,

I ran against a guy (who is a really good driver) in two '00 GTs last thursday and we got similar results. Remember this though, LS1s come stock with about 280-290 rwhp...the new ones '01 and '02 have the LS6 intake and cam so (according to some dyno's out the showroom floor) that I've been seeing are 300rwhp. The GTs are doing 260 at the crank.

When I ran this guy it was only cause he asked to run me. He told me he had exhaust and filter and that was it. I would never ask him to run knowing the differences but since he asked I ran.

What you have to remember is this:

LS1s pull HARD in 3rd gear but the M6s are HARD as hell to lauch (trust me on this one...it took some practice to get me my 2.0 60' time) so do anything that you can to get at least 1-2 cars within the first two gears. After that just make sure that when he pulls, you hit the trap before he passes you. Even if he is walking you and passes you after, who cares...you won the 1/4 mile race.

This happened to me with a C5 Vette I ran...I pulled about 2.5 cars on him until middle of 3rd gear (Vettes have IRS so they don't launch good...hehe..) then he pulled on me good (I could see him coming) but he didn't pass me till about 110mph which is passed my 1/4 trap so (ahem) I won

Just remember get a GOOOOD jump...for some reason GTs have good as hell launch (this guy took almost a full car on me on the launch).

Good Luck
Mike


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1999 Z28 M6 Arctic White, MTI-Clear Lid w/K&N, B&B Triflo, BMR STB, Pro 5.0 Power Tower, 160 Powerstat, HPP3, TB Coolant bypass, Ported MAF, Taylor 409 wires(10.4 mm), NGK TR-55s, Redline Synthetic Lubricants, K&N oil filter,
BEST E.T. 13.27 @ 106.39 (street tires)

[90dpscoupe]

I get the same results, really no major mods, but i can drive good too, and can hook up my firehawks if needed, (not easy) and last time at the streetraces i was spanking a 01ws6 off the line every time, about middle of 3rd he's start pulling hard, i remember whatever gear he hit, think 3-4th, i hear his wheels chirp about 75-80 mph, so those Ls1's can scream thorgh topend, same thing happens at the track, i even went door to door with a 00 ss camaro that went 12.9, till about 70 mph he blew bye pretty hard.

A good pair of heads, some longtubes, and maf, TB should help me up at the top though.

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90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 98.17
Best 60': 1.9607

next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

[Unit 5302]

Really?

That's weird, I ran an SS with some minor mods. We started the race at 90mph, I pulled him hard! All the way to 170mph. My 87GT has MAD top speed. Cause it's all quality baby. That and it's crazy light. I heard there was a limited edition Japanese version of the GT that I'm pretty sure did 200mph

[90dpscoupe]

Stop smoking crack unit

[Skyman]

I was riding in the hatch when Unit had this race. I can vouch for it man. Its cuz hes got the Type GT special edition.

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
50-175 Nitrous Works WET Kit just added.

[Mercury]

Unit cracking jokes?

Yeah man I got a special Ethopia edition 2000 GT, it can hang with Ninjas and stuff.

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64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 valves, 11:1 comp, 1.7:1 rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, modified 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. GT Apperance pkg. And to many others to list

2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle, 40 series Flowmasters
64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car.

[Unit 5302]

Yeah, the only car I've been beaten by is that CrAzY CRX SiR. I couldn't believe it. Had something like 160hp!!!!!!!!! **** , I was doing 240 when he flew by.

[Stang Runner]

Unit 5302 Yeah, the only car I've been beaten by is that CrAzY CRX SiR. I couldn't believe it. Had something like 160hp!!!!!!!!! **** , I was doing 240 when he flew by. Man are you on something or is that 240kph I no for a fact that it was not 240MPH No street cars go that fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe if you are up over 1100HP and maybe not ever Your car would be air born.

[SaleenGTS]

You do know he's joking....right?

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Dustin
Saleenized 89 GT
428 rwhp
TFS Street Heat Intake
TFS TW Heads

[Unit 5302]

Originally posted by Stang Runner:
Unit 5302 Yeah, the only car I've been beaten by is that CrAzY CRX SiR. I couldn't believe it. Had something like 160hp!!!!!!!!! **** , I was doing 240 when he flew by. Man are you on something or is that 240kph I no for a fact that it was not 240MPH No street cars go that fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe if you are up over 1100HP and maybe not ever Your car would be air born.

LOL, please man, you're not taking me seriously right???

240kph (149mph) would be more than maxxed out for my stang, barring some nutty -20*F running

I'm just picking on some really wild claims with no basis in reality that have been made recently.

I doubt the Fox body would go airborne on any flat surface. They do generate enough downforce to keep them on the road. As far as no car in the world being able to do 240mph, I don't know. The McLaren F1 is damn close.

[1BAD89]

Hmmmmmm.... =P