It's May, still no new heads or intake by other manufacturers?

Red Mustang Gt 46 · 05-06-2001, 07:28 PM

I went to the Cecil county Dragstrip the other week and I got to see some mean 5.0s and 4.6s. The 5.0s were the fastest with little mods. The event brought back some fond memories of my 92 LX...Question is..When the hell is someone going to produce some heads and intakes for the 4.6 at a reasonable price? I'm getting tired of waiting!
I heard the rumor of new 4.6 parts over three months ago, what gives?

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1998 Mustang Gt
C&L 80mm
Steeda Underdrives
Steeda Tri-Ax
Magnaflows

Stefan · 05-06-2001, 09:34 PM

We all want it but it couldn't happen soon enough

I guess we'll just have to keep waiting.

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66 Tahoe Turquoise Coupe
Laser Red 96GT Ragtop
30 Years & 30 inches apart in the driveway!

46stang · 05-07-2001, 11:12 AM

you'll probably be saying that next may as well

you can still get all the parts for the 99 head swap for around $1200 or so. not too bad. take it easy
leon

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96 stang,ported 99 heads, 99 intake, 99 cams,Steeda power pullies,Kirban adj.reg.,Pro-m 87,24#inj.,70mm t/b,BBK longtube headers,Bassani x-pipe w/cats, Dynomax ultraflow catback,iat mod, home depot ram air, k@n,373's,cobra brakes,fms spings, tri-ax shifter.

Moxie · 05-07-2001, 11:22 AM

First of all, no manufacturers introduce new parts in the spring. This is when the weather gets nice, everyone pulls their cars out, and the factories get slammed with orders. They usually are backordered on existing parts, nevermind new stuff.

Second, the industry trade show hosted by SEMA is always the first week of November. That is where everyone debuts their new stuff, because they know all the people in the industry will be there.

Third, don't expect any major developments right away. The 302 was brought out in the 1960's, and it wasn't until the 1990's that we finally got a huge selection of parts. Also, that engine was not as efficient in stock form, so changes had a bigger effect. One challenge the aftermarket is having is that they can't improve upon some parts from the factory, because the stock parts are already good.

Fourth, the design and tooling process for casting intakes and heads is incredibly expensive. That means only a few companies are capable of producing them. Unfortunately, the 4.6 is probably not on the top of their priority list. I hate to say it, but right now the sport compact market is the hottest thing going. They're probably working on heads for the Focus or the Civic.

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Moxie Racing

The Nitrous Oxide Information Site

SD Wheeler · 05-07-2001, 04:04 PM

I asked a factory guy (Barry Shephard) about the costs associated with manufacturing heads for the 4.6 engine. His response floored me. Consider this: It takes 24 machining operations to produce a common (left & right side) GT-40 head for the 302. It takes 256 machining operations to produce a single side (left OR right) 4.6 two valve head. Even more for the 4 valve head. Now if you were an aftermarket company would you jump right into the fray?

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SD Wheeler

M/M #30 '98 GT
MV Performance
Blade Runner Racing

"The Game"

SMOKE · 05-07-2001, 06:29 PM

Well it would be nice to have options, I just don't want my to be 10 years old when the aftermarket starts flowing with 4.6 parts.

Of course by then I'll probably have a DOHC waiting for the parts.

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K!
Personalized Black 98 SVO Blown Stage II ROUSH
without the side exhaust but some other cool stuff
Dyno 303rwhp 338rwtrq
Still working out the kinks!!!

97snakedriver · 05-08-2001, 01:23 AM

Joe Steward it making over 1200 hp on ported stock heads (4V) with regrinds, stock block, and crank (4V) (rebalanced) and a Paxton. How much more power do you need?

Red Mustang Gt 46 · 05-08-2001, 05:22 PM

All makes sense. But ah yes, there is hope, check out www.gefracing.com click on Bullitt parts...WOW..gotta get me one of those intakes! $399.99 reasonable!!!

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1998 Mustang Gt
C&L 80mm
Steeda Underdrives
Steeda Tri-Ax
Magnaflows

[This message has been edited by Red Mustang Gt 46 (edited 05-10-2001).]

05-06-2001, 07:28 PM	#1
Red Mustang Gt 46 13.3 @ 103 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 253	It's May, still no new heads or intake by other manufacturers? I went to the Cecil county Dragstrip the other week and I got to see some mean 5.0s and 4.6s. The 5.0s were the fastest with little mods. The event brought back some fond memories of my 92 LX...Question is..When the hell is someone going to produce some heads and intakes for the 4.6 at a reasonable price? I'm getting tired of waiting! I heard the rumor of new 4.6 parts over three months ago, what gives? ------------------ 1998 Mustang Gt C&L 80mm Steeda Underdrives Steeda Tri-Ax Magnaflows

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05-06-2001, 09:34 PM	#2
Stefan Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1998 Location: Manhattan, KS 66502 Posts: 599	We all want it but it couldn't happen soon enough I guess we'll just have to keep waiting. ------------------ 66 Tahoe Turquoise Coupe Laser Red 96GT Ragtop 30 Years & 30 inches apart in the driveway!

05-07-2001, 11:12 AM	#3
46stang Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: moorpark ca Posts: 340	you'll probably be saying that next may as well you can still get all the parts for the 99 head swap for around $1200 or so. not too bad. take it easy leon ------------------ 96 stang,ported 99 heads, 99 intake, 99 cams,Steeda power pullies,Kirban adj.reg.,Pro-m 87,24#inj.,70mm t/b,BBK longtube headers,Bassani x-pipe w/cats, Dynomax ultraflow catback,iat mod, home depot ram air, k@n,373's,cobra brakes,fms spings, tri-ax shifter.

05-07-2001, 11:22 AM	#4
Moxie Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Plymouth, MI Posts: 254	First of all, no manufacturers introduce new parts in the spring. This is when the weather gets nice, everyone pulls their cars out, and the factories get slammed with orders. They usually are backordered on existing parts, nevermind new stuff. Second, the industry trade show hosted by SEMA is always the first week of November. That is where everyone debuts their new stuff, because they know all the people in the industry will be there. Third, don't expect any major developments right away. The 302 was brought out in the 1960's, and it wasn't until the 1990's that we finally got a huge selection of parts. Also, that engine was not as efficient in stock form, so changes had a bigger effect. One challenge the aftermarket is having is that they can't improve upon some parts from the factory, because the stock parts are already good. Fourth, the design and tooling process for casting intakes and heads is incredibly expensive. That means only a few companies are capable of producing them. Unfortunately, the 4.6 is probably not on the top of their priority list. I hate to say it, but right now the sport compact market is the hottest thing going. They're probably working on heads for the Focus or the Civic. ------------------ Moxie Racing The Nitrous Oxide Information Site

05-07-2001, 04:04 PM	#5
SD Wheeler "The Game" Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Baytown, Texas USA Posts: 955	I asked a factory guy (Barry Shephard) about the costs associated with manufacturing heads for the 4.6 engine. His response floored me. Consider this: It takes 24 machining operations to produce a common (left & right side) GT-40 head for the 302. It takes 256 machining operations to produce a single side (left OR right) 4.6 two valve head. Even more for the 4 valve head. Now if you were an aftermarket company would you jump right into the fray? ------------------ SD Wheeler M/M #30 '98 GT MV Performance Blade Runner Racing "The Game"

05-07-2001, 06:29 PM	#6
SMOKE Old School ROUSH Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Stockbridge, GA Posts: 531	Well it would be nice to have options, I just don't want my to be 10 years old when the aftermarket starts flowing with 4.6 parts. Of course by then I'll probably have a DOHC waiting for the parts. ------------------ K! Personalized Black 98 SVO Blown Stage II ROUSH without the side exhaust but some other cool stuff Dyno 303rwhp 338rwtrq Still working out the kinks!!!

05-08-2001, 01:23 AM	#7
97snakedriver Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,526	Joe Steward it making over 1200 hp on ported stock heads (4V) with regrinds, stock block, and crank (4V) (rebalanced) and a Paxton. How much more power do you need?

05-08-2001, 05:22 PM	#8
Red Mustang Gt 46 13.3 @ 103 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 253	All makes sense. But ah yes, there is hope, check out www.gefracing.com click on Bullitt parts...WOW..gotta get me one of those intakes! $399.99 reasonable!!! ------------------ 1998 Mustang Gt C&L 80mm Steeda Underdrives Steeda Tri-Ax Magnaflows [This message has been edited by Red Mustang Gt 46 (edited 05-10-2001).]