Mid 13 sec. 4.6L Stocker?????????

Dark_5.0 · 04-29-2001, 09:11 PM

Ive said it before and im gonna say it again I just dont get it. Went to the track April 28th Saturday night. There were many 4.6L GT's. Best run that I seen was A 14.58 @98mph witch is damn respectible for a bone stock car. How in the hell are some of the people on this board running mid 13's stock. Dont get me wrong I am not accusing people of lying I just want to know (WTF)! and yes they appeared to be good drivers. There was a 4.6L cobra running that had open headers slicks and has low gears and was only running a 13 flat @ 103mph. By the way a cobra with open headers screaming down the track sounds bad @ss. I am not bashing the people that posted these times I am just trying to understand.( I dont hate I appreciate)

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88 mustang gt convertible BBk equal length headers mac cold air intake cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 180 degree thermostat 16 degrees of timing

Mercury · 04-30-2001, 01:19 AM

What year GT's were they? Autos or 5 spds?

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64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, 3:1 rear gear. Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 windsor valves, high side of 10.5:1 comp, 1.7:1 sled rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, autolite 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. And to many others to list

2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle

64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car.

97snakedriver · 04-30-2001, 06:22 AM

Also what are the typical tempatures and humidities like at your track and at what elevation is it? What do LS1 F-bodies typically run there?

Mustang92 · 04-30-2001, 07:41 AM

There are a few cars that have gone high 13's (13.6x's-13.9x's) but they are few and far between. They come down to the driver and track conditions. They are far from the norm. My car stock went 14.02@97.91 in less than favorable track conditions. I think you'll get there with some more time behind the wheel.

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00 GT, MAC Offroad H, Steeda Pulleys, Steeda Timing Adjuster, FMS 4.10’s, Flows w/turndowns, UPR shifter, UPR subframes, UPR adj LCA’s (not installed), Air Filter, Lakewood 70/30 & 50/50, Weld Pro Stars, Nitto DR’s, 253.8 RWHP/292.8RWTQ
Best on DR's 13.09@103.92 (1.81 60ft)
Best on ET Drags 12.91@101.93 (1.74 60ft)
M/M 100
88 LX coupe X-FHP, 12pt Cage, UPR K-member, 31 spline rear, full spool (For Sale)

Dark_5.0 · 04-30-2001, 12:03 PM

These cars that I spoke of were 5 speeds and were two thousand models. The air here isnt the greatest, I know for a fact that cars run a half a second faster in dallas but that still would not get you a mid 13 a 14 flat is believable but a mid 13 is a stretch.

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88 mustang gt convertible BBk equal length headers mac cold air intake cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 180 degree thermostat 16 degrees of timing

mustang17 · 04-30-2001, 01:13 PM

I didn't believe it until I saw it. Check out the Lizard King's MPEGS! Ford should pay him to post times like that.

He's the only one I know who runs mid 13's box stock.

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1995 GT Black- Edelbrock 6037's,Intake,Edelbrock cam,70mm TB,75mm pro-m,Taylor wires, pulleys,Equal length headers,K&N filter
Flowmaster,3.73's, Eibach pro rate springs
lower control arms Centerforce clutch
New motor in the works!

Ares · 04-30-2001, 04:10 PM

Well I know of only one person from this forum that races at Keystone Raceway that could back up my times in person. Anyway what I have done to my car is in my sig and I have yet to make a pass down track with X-pipe. Also of note I have heard from people at track that there is a recall on some newer 4.6's with Windsor heads. It appears they dont flow as good as the Romeo heads. I havent comfirmed this recall with a Ford dealer yet.

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2000 GT Laser red-5speed,MAC Cold Air, MAC 2 1/2" Cat-Back, 3.27gears, Pro-5.0 shifter, Weld Draglite's 15x5 and 15x10, 275/50-15 DragT/A's, 165R15 front
Items on car but not run at track yet-BBK offroad X-pipe, BBK Underdrive pullies

Best Quarter mile run to date: 13.353@101.70/1.849 60'(4-29-01)Best MPH 101.70(4/29/01)

blue00gt · 04-30-2001, 07:20 PM

You can definitely believe it. Bone stock burning out or bogging off the line mine still ran 14.3s@98 when I was getting used to it. With a good launch, I should think that anyone should be able to run pretty close to 14.0 without powershifting.
Ares and Lizard King - did you guys powershift to get those times?

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2000GT Atlantic Blue: Cobra R Wheels-17x9 255/40/17, 17x10.5 315/35/17, tubular K-member & control arms, Tokico 5-ways, coil overs, sway bars, strut/shock tower bars, 70mm FMS throttle body, Saleen nose.
79 Pace Car: Maximum Motorsports suspension - H&R Race springs, Bilsteins, rear control arms, chassis bracing, Draglites, 302 w/ Edelbrock Performer intake, cam and 600cfm carb, BBK equal-lengths & H-pipe, 2.5" Flowmaster 2chmbr exhaust, Al Driveshaft, 8.8 trak-loc, TCI C4 w/ 2000 stall, B&M

Ares · 05-01-2001, 05:20 PM

God no I dont power shift. I would like to be able to drive my car home from track

These T-45's dont like the abuse at all, well mine doesnt seem to anyway.

I granny shift, clutch pedal to floor, shift into gear, clutch pedal out, tag gas pedal back to floor. I do have a good system down for shifting super quick, but I never hold gas pedal down to floor when I shift. I have raced 3 different cars over last 4 years with manual trannies('85 Camaro, '86 Vette, and my stang) and have never a power shift among them.

Im going to scan my timeslips from sunday, and try and post them in my reader ride, will be car 1271

04-29-2001, 09:11 PM	#1
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Mid 13 sec. 4.6L Stocker????????? Ive said it before and im gonna say it again I just dont get it. Went to the track April 28th Saturday night. There were many 4.6L GT's. Best run that I seen was A 14.58 @98mph witch is damn respectible for a bone stock car. How in the hell are some of the people on this board running mid 13's stock. Dont get me wrong I am not accusing people of lying I just want to know (WTF)! and yes they appeared to be good drivers. There was a 4.6L cobra running that had open headers slicks and has low gears and was only running a 13 flat @ 103mph. By the way a cobra with open headers screaming down the track sounds bad @ss. I am not bashing the people that posted these times I am just trying to understand.( I dont hate I appreciate) ------------------ 88 mustang gt convertible BBk equal length headers mac cold air intake cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 180 degree thermostat 16 degrees of timing

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Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	What year GT's were they? Autos or 5 spds? ------------------ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, 3:1 rear gear. Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 windsor valves, high side of 10.5:1 comp, 1.7:1 sled rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, autolite 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. And to many others to list 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle 64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car.

04-30-2001, 06:22 AM	#3
97snakedriver Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,526	Also what are the typical tempatures and humidities like at your track and at what elevation is it? What do LS1 F-bodies typically run there?

04-30-2001, 07:41 AM	#4
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	There are a few cars that have gone high 13's (13.6x's-13.9x's) but they are few and far between. They come down to the driver and track conditions. They are far from the norm. My car stock went 14.02@97.91 in less than favorable track conditions. I think you'll get there with some more time behind the wheel. ------------------ 00 GT, MAC Offroad H, Steeda Pulleys, Steeda Timing Adjuster, FMS 4.10’s, Flows w/turndowns, UPR shifter, UPR subframes, UPR adj LCA’s (not installed), Air Filter, Lakewood 70/30 & 50/50, Weld Pro Stars, Nitto DR’s, 253.8 RWHP/292.8RWTQ Best on DR's 13.09@103.92 (1.81 60ft) Best on ET Drags 12.91@101.93 (1.74 60ft) M/M 100 88 LX coupe X-FHP, 12pt Cage, UPR K-member, 31 spline rear, full spool (For Sale)

04-30-2001, 12:03 PM	#5
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	These cars that I spoke of were 5 speeds and were two thousand models. The air here isnt the greatest, I know for a fact that cars run a half a second faster in dallas but that still would not get you a mid 13 a 14 flat is believable but a mid 13 is a stretch. ------------------ 88 mustang gt convertible BBk equal length headers mac cold air intake cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 180 degree thermostat 16 degrees of timing

04-30-2001, 01:13 PM	#6
mustang17 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Concord, MA, USA Posts: 264	I didn't believe it until I saw it. Check out the Lizard King's MPEGS! Ford should pay him to post times like that. He's the only one I know who runs mid 13's box stock. ------------------ 1995 GT Black- Edelbrock 6037's,Intake,Edelbrock cam,70mm TB,75mm pro-m,Taylor wires, pulleys,Equal length headers,K&N filter Flowmaster,3.73's, Eibach pro rate springs lower control arms Centerforce clutch New motor in the works!

04-30-2001, 04:10 PM	#7
Ares Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Saxonburg, PA, USA Posts: 236	Well I know of only one person from this forum that races at Keystone Raceway that could back up my times in person. Anyway what I have done to my car is in my sig and I have yet to make a pass down track with X-pipe. Also of note I have heard from people at track that there is a recall on some newer 4.6's with Windsor heads. It appears they dont flow as good as the Romeo heads. I havent comfirmed this recall with a Ford dealer yet. ------------------ 2000 GT Laser red-5speed,MAC Cold Air, MAC 2 1/2" Cat-Back, 3.27gears, Pro-5.0 shifter, Weld Draglite's 15x5 and 15x10, 275/50-15 DragT/A's, 165R15 front Items on car but not run at track yet-BBK offroad X-pipe, BBK Underdrive pullies Best Quarter mile run to date: 13.353@101.70/1.849 60'(4-29-01)Best MPH 101.70(4/29/01)

04-30-2001, 07:20 PM	#8
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	You can definitely believe it. Bone stock burning out or bogging off the line mine still ran 14.3s@98 when I was getting used to it. With a good launch, I should think that anyone should be able to run pretty close to 14.0 without powershifting. Ares and Lizard King - did you guys powershift to get those times? ------------------ 2000GT Atlantic Blue: Cobra R Wheels-17x9 255/40/17, 17x10.5 315/35/17, tubular K-member & control arms, Tokico 5-ways, coil overs, sway bars, strut/shock tower bars, 70mm FMS throttle body, Saleen nose. 79 Pace Car: Maximum Motorsports suspension - H&R Race springs, Bilsteins, rear control arms, chassis bracing, Draglites, 302 w/ Edelbrock Performer intake, cam and 600cfm carb, BBK equal-lengths & H-pipe, 2.5" Flowmaster 2chmbr exhaust, Al Driveshaft, 8.8 trak-loc, TCI C4 w/ 2000 stall, B&M

05-01-2001, 05:20 PM	#9
Ares Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Saxonburg, PA, USA Posts: 236	God no I dont power shift. I would like to be able to drive my car home from track These T-45's dont like the abuse at all, well mine doesnt seem to anyway. I granny shift, clutch pedal to floor, shift into gear, clutch pedal out, tag gas pedal back to floor. I do have a good system down for shifting super quick, but I never hold gas pedal down to floor when I shift. I have raced 3 different cars over last 4 years with manual trannies('85 Camaro, '86 Vette, and my stang) and have never a power shift among them. Im going to scan my timeslips from sunday, and try and post them in my reader ride, will be car 1271