Mod Lincolns!!!!

vetteeatr · 11-14-2002, 07:08 PM

I saw in some mustang mag about all these modular lincoln that were just bad ***.

Well im higly considering getting one of these things i mean they got the freakign cobra motor in them really luxurious and roomy.

Look actaulyl very aerodynamic

and yada yada

Basically anyone knwo of peopel suping up these cars as faras i knwo the only diffrence in motors is the intake I tbelieve.

Eric4Nitrous · 11-14-2002, 07:11 PM

Why not just get the lincoln navigator motor?? Randy Haywood of True Blue Performance has one in his Outlaw 10.5 Car and the internals are basically stock. He has a huge amount of boost running through it and such and he runs 8.2? at around 169mph!!

95mustanggt · 11-14-2002, 07:40 PM

I have a buddy with the Lincoln Mark VII. Really nice car. It has the 4.6 DOHC engine. But I believe that the intake is different, the computer is different, and so are all the internals (not as strong as the Cobra).

The Deuce · 11-14-2002, 07:58 PM

Personally I wouldn't get a cobra motor for my GT. The whole coil on plug thing worries me. I don't want to pull my valve covers if(when) I burn up a plug. Maybe its just me, but if the 2v heads work for saleen, I'm all right with them.

Besides I hears Clay Smith Engineering is working on some cams for the 2v motors. Can you say, "Sweet?"

mlambrecht82 · 11-15-2002, 01:44 AM

sweet

now all I need is $
I raced some guy in a 01 GT tonight, and man that thing was quick (Not as quick as mine) He said he had an extra set of ported heads that would fit my car, he wanted $1400 for them, is that a good price, I don't think they were used. I' guessing that's just the stock heads with a port job, right? There's no after market heads for the 4.6, right?
Anyways, if I had the $ I would have taken him up on it.
I would be interested in a cam though.

ylw99vert · 11-15-2002, 11:57 AM

Some of the Mark VIII's will surprise you, but as stated earlier, the engine is not the same as the Cobra motor.

Mustang92 · 11-15-2002, 02:49 PM

You don't have to pull the valve covers on the cobra motors to change plugs it's just as easy and changing them on a 2v motor. There are 5 or 6 compaines currently that already have cams available for 2 and 4v motors.

Bill

ylw99vert · 11-15-2002, 02:51 PM

Your right Bill, but changing the plugs on the Cobra motor is even easier than getting to the plugs on the 2V motor!

vetteeatr · 11-15-2002, 09:45 PM

Actualyl I was reading specs and the diffence in horsepower is 30 less in teh lincoln mark 8 LSC and 40 less in regular mark 8.

As for those diffrences that really isnt that big of a deal as i woudl realyl replace most of the components anyway.

Do they have aftermaket heads adn intakes for these motros yet i fnot oyu knwo someone has to be working on them.

91LX2Bfast · 11-17-2002, 11:06 AM

4.6 Cobra Specs ('98) -
DOHC V-8
Valve train: 4 overhead camshafts
Valves 32 (4 per cylinder)
Pistons: Full floating alloy
Connecting Rods sinter forged with fracture split ends
Crankshaft: Forged steel
Cylinder block 6-bolt main
Extras: camshafts are more aggressive, improved oiling system
'98 HP & TQ: 305 HP @ 5,800 rpm, 300 lbs.-ft. of torque @ 4,800 rpm

4.6 Lincoln MVIII Specs ('98) -
Engine: DOHC V-8
Valve train: 4 overhead camshafts
Valves 32 (4 per cylinder) 32 (4 per cylinder)
Pistons: Standard
Connecting Rods: Standard
Crankshaft: Standard
Cylinder block: 6-bolt main
Extras: EEC pin outs are different
'98 HP & TQ: 290 HP @ 5,750 rpm, 295 lbs.-ft. of torque @ 4,500 rpm

Difference in power can mostly be found in heads/intake. Both have dual bore TB, but the MK8 has a longer runner intake vs. the shorter runner of the Cobra.
There is a lot of power to be had in the Mark VIII with a good exhaust and intake setup, and a properly tuned EEC. I'd also throw in some U/D pulleys, 4:10's, and an aftermarket driveshaft.
There are a lot of people working with MK8's:
Reinhart Automotive
Modular Technical Community
Lincolns of Distinction

11-14-2002, 07:08 PM	#1
vetteeatr Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Olney, Illinois, USA Posts: 212	Mod Lincolns!!!! I saw in some mustang mag about all these modular lincoln that were just bad **. Well im higly considering getting one of these things i mean they got the freakign cobra motor in them really luxurious and roomy. Look actaulyl very aerodynamic and yada yada Basically anyone knwo of peopel suping up these cars as faras i knwo the only diffrence in motors is the intake I tbelieve. __________________ !988 GT World Windsor Sr.'s, Harland sharpe rockers, 3.73 gears, pulleys, no ac, hurst shifter, 10:1 pistons, BBK full length headers and H-pipe with flows. Under extensive work for porting and fly cutting to accept my new cam and to match my soon to have systemax intake DROOL* Best E.T. 13.20 with edelbrock RPM intake and 70mm TB

11-14-2002, 07:11 PM	#2
Eric4Nitrous Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Va Posts: 1,122	Why not just get the lincoln navigator motor?? Randy Haywood of True Blue Performance has one in his Outlaw 10.5 Car and the internals are basically stock. He has a huge amount of boost running through it and such and he runs 8.2? at around 169mph!! __________________ 68 Camaro Gene Fulton 632ci Two stages of Jug 8.41 164mph Rockingham 1-26-03

11-14-2002, 07:40 PM	#3
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	I have a buddy with the Lincoln Mark VII. Really nice car. It has the 4.6 DOHC engine. But I believe that the intake is different, the computer is different, and so are all the internals (not as strong as the Cobra). __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

11-14-2002, 07:58 PM	#4
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	Personally I wouldn't get a cobra motor for my GT. The whole coil on plug thing worries me. I don't want to pull my valve covers if(when) I burn up a plug. Maybe its just me, but if the 2v heads work for saleen, I'm all right with them. Besides I hears Clay Smith Engineering is working on some cams for the 2v motors. Can you say, "Sweet?" __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

11-15-2002, 01:44 AM	#5
mlambrecht82 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 101	sweet now all I need is $ I raced some guy in a 01 GT tonight, and man that thing was quick (Not as quick as mine) He said he had an extra set of ported heads that would fit my car, he wanted $1400 for them, is that a good price, I don't think they were used. I' guessing that's just the stock heads with a port job, right? There's no after market heads for the 4.6, right? Anyways, if I had the $ I would have taken him up on it. I would be interested in a cam though. __________________ _________________________________ 04 Cobra densecharger CAI BBK off road X pipe Custom Electronic Exhaust cut outs Tuning via Diablo Predator Ported and polished Throttle body and plenum Line locker (for the smoke shows) Stock boost 412 rwhp 379 rwtq

11-15-2002, 11:57 AM	#6
ylw99vert Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St. Louis Posts: 16	Some of the Mark VIII's will surprise you, but as stated earlier, the engine is not the same as the Cobra motor. __________________ Just another blown 4V 4.6 GT

11-15-2002, 02:49 PM	#7
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	You don't have to pull the valve covers on the cobra motors to change plugs it's just as easy and changing them on a 2v motor. There are 5 or 6 compaines currently that already have cams available for 2 and 4v motors. Bill __________________ 2000 GT VRS O/R X, Dynomax Bullets, Steeda Pulleys, Pro-M 80MM, 4.30s, UPR Pro Series Suspension, UPR Tubular K-member, MAC Longtubes, Bullitt Intake, TKO, VT Engine Stage 1 NA Cams, SCT Tune. 285 RWHP/296 RWTQ 11.97 @ 113.20 M/M 100, 7085 www.uprproducts.com www.ponyexpressperformance.com www.modulardepot.com

11-15-2002, 02:51 PM	#8
ylw99vert Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St. Louis Posts: 16	Your right Bill, but changing the plugs on the Cobra motor is even easier than getting to the plugs on the 2V motor! __________________ Just another blown 4V 4.6 GT

11-15-2002, 09:45 PM	#9
vetteeatr Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Olney, Illinois, USA Posts: 212	Actualyl I was reading specs and the diffence in horsepower is 30 less in teh lincoln mark 8 LSC and 40 less in regular mark 8. As for those diffrences that really isnt that big of a deal as i woudl realyl replace most of the components anyway. Do they have aftermaket heads adn intakes for these motros yet i fnot oyu knwo someone has to be working on them. __________________ !988 GT World Windsor Sr.'s, Harland sharpe rockers, 3.73 gears, pulleys, no ac, hurst shifter, 10:1 pistons, BBK full length headers and H-pipe with flows. Under extensive work for porting and fly cutting to accept my new cam and to match my soon to have systemax intake DROOL Best E.T. 13.20 with edelbrock RPM intake and 70mm TB

11-17-2002, 11:06 AM	#10
91LX2Bfast Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Warrington, PA Posts: 694	4.6 Cobra Specs ('98) - DOHC V-8 Valve train: 4 overhead camshafts Valves 32 (4 per cylinder) Pistons: Full floating alloy Connecting Rods sinter forged with fracture split ends Crankshaft: Forged steel Cylinder block 6-bolt main Extras: camshafts are more aggressive, improved oiling system '98 HP & TQ: 305 HP @ 5,800 rpm, 300 lbs.-ft. of torque @ 4,800 rpm 4.6 Lincoln MVIII Specs ('98) - Engine: DOHC V-8 Valve train: 4 overhead camshafts Valves 32 (4 per cylinder) 32 (4 per cylinder) Pistons: Standard Connecting Rods: Standard Crankshaft: Standard Cylinder block: 6-bolt main Extras: EEC pin outs are different '98 HP & TQ: 290 HP @ 5,750 rpm, 295 lbs.-ft. of torque @ 4,500 rpm Difference in power can mostly be found in heads/intake. Both have dual bore TB, but the MK8 has a longer runner intake vs. the shorter runner of the Cobra. There is a lot of power to be had in the Mark VIII with a good exhaust and intake setup, and a properly tuned EEC. I'd also throw in some U/D pulleys, 4:10's, and an aftermarket driveshaft. There are a lot of people working with MK8's: Reinhart Automotive Modular Technical Community Lincolns of Distinction __________________ '97 T-bird LX 4.6L 2V, auto SVO heads/intake, Vortech T-trim, front mounted intercooler, blower cams, Cobra crank, Manley H-beam rods, JE pistons, Aeromotive fuel system w/ 42# injectors, and much more No times yet

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