N/A Combo's for Modulars

Lazer50 · 04-09-2004, 06:00 PM

Hi,

I am interested in all these modular cars getting so fast and was wondering what kinda combos/times people are running with their cars N/A. From what i have seen a 5.0 can make it into 11's all motor and stay Ca. Smog Legal, but i was wondering how fast any of you guys are with N/A combos and how fast they can be with staying Smog Legal. Thanks for any info

Steven

91LX2Bfast · 04-10-2004, 09:53 AM

Ken B. from modular depot has one of the fastest bolt on 2V cars, and a has gone something like 11.7's in his 2000 GT with the stock 4.6 liters. He has ported heads, ported Bullitt intake, cams, longtubes/full exhaust, other bolt ons, and a lot of weight reduction with a full suspension.
I imagine with cats and a retune, it could come darn close to passing a sniffer test. But the cams might be a bit aggressive for that. As for passing a visual inspection in CA, I don't think thats happening.
Now, getting into 4V cars, there is even more room for power. Throw a stroker into it, yet more N/A power. But most of the fastest 2V cars I know of are sporting longtubes w/o cats, and custom cams. So technically they are not legal.

explicitone · 04-11-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by Lazer50
Hi,

I am interested in all these modular cars getting so fast and was wondering what kinda combos/times people are running with their cars N/A. From what i have seen a 5.0 can make it into 11's all motor and stay Ca. Smog Legal, but i was wondering how fast any of you guys are with N/A combos and how fast they can be with staying Smog Legal. Thanks for any info

Steven

good luck getting into the 11s with a smog legal 2v mod motor
at this stage in the game I dont think it will happen

now a 4v I think it could run 11s smog legal n/a but it would still be a long shot right now with the limited parts out for both motors

Mustang92 · 04-12-2004, 04:37 PM

It could probably be done with a 2V car but it wouldn't be cheap. The 4V cars would be a better starting point for someone looking for a smog legal and 11 second car.

Bill

explicitone · 04-12-2004, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Mustang92
It could probably be done with a 2V car but it wouldn't be cheap. The 4V cars would be a better starting point for someone looking for a smog legal and 11 second car.

Bill

bill the reason I say I dont think it can be done cause he is talking smog legal in cali where they cant have long tube headers and if the car comes with 4 cats then you have to have 4 cats and they have to have a sticker for every aftermarket part on the car saying that it is smog legal

and on the sniffer I dont think cams or other mods that are out right now would pass

now if we were talking 11s smog legal with a power adder then yes it can be done

Mercury · 04-13-2004, 01:37 AM

Soon as I get my suspension done and take it to the track I'll let everyone know what its runs. Just gotta get my suspension done first. I'm hoping for low 12's...12.3 is my goal for the car as the motor sits now. With a few more tweaks and things I want to see 11's. I dont care if its an 11.99999999 but I want to see one.

explicitone · 04-13-2004, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Mercury
Soon as I get my suspension done and take it to the track I'll let everyone know what its runs. Just gotta get my suspension done first. I'm hoping for low 12's...12.3 is my goal for the car as the motor sits now. With a few more tweaks and things I want to see 11's. I dont care if its an 11.99999999 but I want to see one.

but yours is not going to be cali smog legal but it will be bad ass and as for 11s I dont see why you cant hit a 11 with a hell of a launch and the right weather conditions

Lazer50 · 04-13-2004, 03:59 PM

thanks for the help guys, from what iv been researching mid to high 12's are not unreasonable or uncommon with bolt on car but to pull low low 12's or even high 11's im going to be getting into cams and stuff which is where im going to be getting into trouble. The only thing i can think of to "pass" smog would be to just keep the stock exhaust system for smog tests and get two chips burned, 1 for Street and the other way leaned out for smog tests if i had cams but anyway thanks for the help guys.

Steven

Mustang92 · 04-13-2004, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by explicitone
bill the reason I say I dont think it can be done cause he is talking smog legal in cali where they cant have long tube headers and if the car comes with 4 cats then you have to have 4 cats and they have to have a sticker for every aftermarket part on the car saying that it is smog legal

I understand that but I still think it can be done. Longtubes do help a lot as well as o/r exhaust but I believe that is someone put forth the effort and built a motor 11s could be done and be smog legal. My cams are fairly mild and I'm sure with a good tune and catted exhaust they would pass the sniffer test hands down. Added ported heads, higher compression and all the other smog legal bolt ons and I believe you could see 280-290RWHP no problem. That along with some weight reduction and you have something similiar to my car power wise. Again it's not going to be cheap and a 4V would be a better option but just as everyone said 11s couldn't be done with stock untouched heads I believe you can run 11s with a built and smog legal motor. Just like my car it takes more work and money that's all.

Bill

explicitone · 04-13-2004, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by Mustang92
I understand that but I still think it can be done. Longtubes do help a lot as well as o/r exhaust but I believe that is someone put forth the effort and built a motor 11s could be done and be smog legal. My cams are fairly mild and I'm sure with a good tune and catted exhaust they would pass the sniffer test hands down. Added ported heads, higher compression and all the other smog legal bolt ons and I believe you could see 280-290RWHP no problem. That along with some weight reduction and you have something similiar to my car power wise. Again it's not going to be cheap and a 4V would be a better option but just as everyone said 11s couldn't be done with stock untouched heads I believe you can run 11s with a built and smog legal motor. Just like my car it takes more work and money that's all.

Bill

I see your point I was more or less going by the lines of the stock short block and such

but I still dont see it happening I may be wrong and I hope i am that would be great for a mod motor car to run that cause that would give hope to a fully built 10 sec n/a 2v

but for now I stand by my opinion and yes it is just my opinion

Mustang92 · 04-13-2004, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by explicitone
that would give hope to a fully built 10 sec n/a 2v

That will definitely happen in the next 12 months.

Bill

explicitone · 04-13-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Mustang92
That will definitely happen in the next 12 months.

Bill

that i would love to see that would great

Mercury · 04-14-2004, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by explicitone
but yours is not going to be cali smog legal but it will be bad ass and as for 11s I dont see why you cant hit a 11 with a hell of a launch and the right weather conditions

Funny thing is, there are two members on this site that say me, or my car would be hard pressed to see the 12's. Though I wont go into that.

explicitone · 04-14-2004, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by Mercury
Funny thing is, there are two members on this site that say me, or my car would be hard pressed to see the 12's. Though I wont go into that.

they must not know crap about the mod motors cause I went 13.2 with a crap 1.8 60' and no power shifting

and you have a lot more mods then I do

and look at say mustang92(bill p) he runs 11s with the stock short block and unported heads

I know with the way my setup is now if I can get 60' down to a low 1.7 and with powershifting I dont see why I cant run a 12.9 and with some more weight taken out and long tubes run a mid 12 on motor and a 11 on spray

just remember you build/race your car for you and no one else
so who cares what others think IMO

Mustang92 · 04-14-2004, 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by Mercury
Funny thing is, there are two members on this site that say me, or my car would be hard pressed to see the 12's. Though I wont go into that.

On Modular Depot? Who on the site said that?

Bill

Mercury · 04-14-2004, 11:42 AM

No, Not on the Modular forum, on the Street Racers, and Blue oval forum. No names, there just a couple of morons.

Mustang92 · 04-14-2004, 01:22 PM

Recent threads? I've had no problem backing up your claims. I've been in the role of underdog for 4 years so it's nothing new. Most people that don't think it can't happen are just in denial. I can't tell you how many people look my car over for power adders because they can't believe a modular powered car can go anywhere near that fast on muscle.

Bill

blue00gt · 04-14-2004, 02:08 PM

Unfortunately if you want to stay smog legal in CA the best way is to get a power adder and some traction.

04-09-2004, 06:00 PM	#1
Lazer50 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Central Coast, Ca Posts: 24	N/A Combo's for Modulars Hi, I am interested in all these modular cars getting so fast and was wondering what kinda combos/times people are running with their cars N/A. From what i have seen a 5.0 can make it into 11's all motor and stay Ca. Smog Legal, but i was wondering how fast any of you guys are with N/A combos and how fast they can be with staying Smog Legal. Thanks for any info Steven __________________ 48 Ford F1 Pickup- NEW BEST 8/20 Best ET- 13.765 @ 103.31 60FT 2.193 (My Flying Brick) 67 GTA Mustang (All Stock) Best ET- 15.454 @ 90.58MPH 60FT 2.45

04-10-2004, 09:53 AM	#2
91LX2Bfast Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Warrington, PA Posts: 694	Ken B. from modular depot has one of the fastest bolt on 2V cars, and a has gone something like 11.7's in his 2000 GT with the stock 4.6 liters. He has ported heads, ported Bullitt intake, cams, longtubes/full exhaust, other bolt ons, and a lot of weight reduction with a full suspension. I imagine with cats and a retune, it could come darn close to passing a sniffer test. But the cams might be a bit aggressive for that. As for passing a visual inspection in CA, I don't think thats happening. Now, getting into 4V cars, there is even more room for power. Throw a stroker into it, yet more N/A power. But most of the fastest 2V cars I know of are sporting longtubes w/o cats, and custom cams. So technically they are not legal. __________________ '97 T-bird LX 4.6L 2V, auto SVO heads/intake, Vortech T-trim, front mounted intercooler, blower cams, Cobra crank, Manley H-beam rods, JE pistons, Aeromotive fuel system w/ 42# injectors, and much more No times yet

04-12-2004, 04:37 PM	#4
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	It could probably be done with a 2V car but it wouldn't be cheap. The 4V cars would be a better starting point for someone looking for a smog legal and 11 second car. Bill __________________ 2000 GT VRS O/R X, Dynomax Bullets, Steeda Pulleys, Pro-M 80MM, 4.30s, UPR Pro Series Suspension, UPR Tubular K-member, MAC Longtubes, Bullitt Intake, TKO, VT Engine Stage 1 NA Cams, SCT Tune. 285 RWHP/296 RWTQ 11.97 @ 113.20 M/M 100, 7085 www.uprproducts.com www.ponyexpressperformance.com www.modulardepot.com

04-13-2004, 01:37 AM	#6
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Soon as I get my suspension done and take it to the track I'll let everyone know what its runs. Just gotta get my suspension done first. I'm hoping for low 12's...12.3 is my goal for the car as the motor sits now. With a few more tweaks and things I want to see 11's. I dont care if its an 11.99999999 but I want to see one. __________________ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. Red Baron, 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. Stage 2 CNC heads with Large Valves, Comp Cams (270-274 dur .550 lift), Forged Crank, DRP pistons, Manly H-beams, Pro M 87 mm Mass Air, 24lb Inj, 75mm TB, Plenum Spacer ,Long Tube Headers, Homemade H-pipe, 2 chamber Flows, 4:10's, Steeda Tri-Ax, LKW 70/30's, Eibach Drag Springs, Steeda SubFrames, Battle Boxes, Rear Girdle, Adj uppers, Alunimum Drshft, Southside Lift Bars. Project Cars, 64 1/2 6cyl coupe, 1930 Model A Nostalgia Rod.

04-13-2004, 03:59 PM	#8
Lazer50 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Central Coast, Ca Posts: 24	thanks for the help guys, from what iv been researching mid to high 12's are not unreasonable or uncommon with bolt on car but to pull low low 12's or even high 11's im going to be getting into cams and stuff which is where im going to be getting into trouble. The only thing i can think of to "pass" smog would be to just keep the stock exhaust system for smog tests and get two chips burned, 1 for Street and the other way leaned out for smog tests if i had cams but anyway thanks for the help guys. Steven __________________ 48 Ford F1 Pickup- NEW BEST 8/20 Best ET- 13.765 @ 103.31 60FT 2.193 (My Flying Brick) 67 GTA Mustang (All Stock) Best ET- 15.454 @ 90.58MPH 60FT 2.45

04-14-2004, 11:42 AM	#16
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	No, Not on the Modular forum, on the Street Racers, and Blue oval forum. No names, there just a couple of morons. __________________ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. Red Baron, 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. Stage 2 CNC heads with Large Valves, Comp Cams (270-274 dur .550 lift), Forged Crank, DRP pistons, Manly H-beams, Pro M 87 mm Mass Air, 24lb Inj, 75mm TB, Plenum Spacer ,Long Tube Headers, Homemade H-pipe, 2 chamber Flows, 4:10's, Steeda Tri-Ax, LKW 70/30's, Eibach Drag Springs, Steeda SubFrames, Battle Boxes, Rear Girdle, Adj uppers, Alunimum Drshft, Southside Lift Bars. Project Cars, 64 1/2 6cyl coupe, 1930 Model A Nostalgia Rod.

04-14-2004, 01:22 PM	#17
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	Recent threads? I've had no problem backing up your claims. I've been in the role of underdog for 4 years so it's nothing new. Most people that don't think it can't happen are just in denial. I can't tell you how many people look my car over for power adders because they can't believe a modular powered car can go anywhere near that fast on muscle. Bill

04-14-2004, 02:08 PM	#18
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	Unfortunately if you want to stay smog legal in CA the best way is to get a power adder and some traction. __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

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