Putting down the money for Supercharger, which one?

BryantD · 10-05-2002, 07:55 PM

Looking for last minute opinions. I've been studying for several months about every type of forced induction I could find for a "02 GT (5-speed) convertible. The only mods I've done is K&N and 3.73 gears. I was planning on all the usual mods to make a strong NA motor but have decided to go FI. I have brand new Steeda U/D Pulleys in my closet (they are for sale!). I've decided Supercharging over Turbo and Centrifugal over Roots. The issue I have is deciding between the Paxton & the Vortech, specifically the Novi 1000 w/ Air to Air Intercooler ands the SQ w/ Water to Air Aftercooler. Obviously from the few mods mentioned I have stock internals (12K fun miles on them) so I will be shooting for 10psi, no more. My eventual goals are 400rwhp safely. It will be a street car though I might take it to the track every now and then. I'm leaning ever so slightly to the Novi 1000 because of the slightly quicker spooling and Air to Air IC (but it will cost me $68 more than the SQ installed

). Opinions anyone???????

jj_jonathon · 10-05-2002, 08:02 PM

lol, I have no experience with S/Cs but its kinda funny that youre looking at a difference of $68 so closely on products that are worth approx $2500 or so just in box...

...its smart too tho

SleeperGT · 10-06-2002, 09:50 AM

Bryan - I've had a Vortech for about six months now and have had no problems to date. I have learned that probably the single biggest item to be concerned with is the ability to have your car custom dyno tuned once the SC is installed. Both Paxton and Vortech make excellent products which will be very reliable and very powerful, however if you do not have easy access to a shop with a dyno and the expertise to tune your SC'ed car you're not going to get near the potential or your desired safe 400 rwhp. I am currently going through the giant pain in the rear of scheduling someone to actually come to my town to custom tune my car (unless someone can recommend a local mastermind tuner for Jacksonville, FL.....please, please, someone give me a strong recommendation). A local shop has tapped me into someone who is suppose to be a "genius" at tuning a 4.6 with a supercharger, but he is not local, so I'll get custom programs for my computer, but this is NOT to be considered a custom tune by any means (I have gotten significant power gains via this remote tuning, but I am also risking my engine because the first round of this I had significant detonation). You must have someone actually lay hands on your car with a dyno to get it right. Anyways, good luck!

BryantD · 10-06-2002, 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by SleeperGT
Bryan - I've had a Vortech for about six months now and have had no problems to date. I have learned that probably the single biggest item to be concerned with is the ability to have your car custom dyno tuned once the SC is installed. Both Paxton and Vortech make excellent products which will be very reliable and very powerful, however if you do not have easy access to a shop with a dyno and the expertise to tune your SC'ed car you're not going to get near the potential or your desired safe 400 rwhp. I am currently going through the giant pain in the rear of scheduling someone to actually come to my town to custom tune my car (unless someone can recommend a local mastermind tuner for Jacksonville, FL.....please, please, someone give me a strong recommendation). A local shop has tapped me into someone who is suppose to be a "genius" at tuning a 4.6 with a supercharger, but he is not local, so I'll get custom programs for my computer, but this is NOT to be considered a custom tune by any means (I have gotten significant power gains via this remote tuning, but I am also risking my engine because the first round of this I had significant detonation). You must have someone actually lay hands on your car with a dyno to get it right. Anyways, good luck!

I decided on the Novi 1000 with the Air to Air IC. The shop here in Austin doing the install can do the custom dyno tune but since I plan on polishing & porting my heads (along with regrinding the cams for the SC) I'm holding off on the long tube headers, H-pipe w/ cats and catback exhaust. so I'm just going to use the Paxton chip with the Novi for now. I know it will run rich compared to a dyno tune but with the intercooler and 9 to 10 psi I should be pretty safe until I get the heads worked. Anyway thanks for the input.

coolie1 · 10-07-2002, 06:21 AM

hey sleeper have u tryed mustang moter sport in orange park?

SleeperGT · 10-07-2002, 09:15 AM

Yea, that's who I'm currently working with.

10-05-2002, 07:55 PM	#1
BryantD Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20	Putting down the money for Supercharger, which one? Looking for last minute opinions. I've been studying for several months about every type of forced induction I could find for a "02 GT (5-speed) convertible. The only mods I've done is K&N and 3.73 gears. I was planning on all the usual mods to make a strong NA motor but have decided to go FI. I have brand new Steeda U/D Pulleys in my closet (they are for sale!). I've decided Supercharging over Turbo and Centrifugal over Roots. The issue I have is deciding between the Paxton & the Vortech, specifically the Novi 1000 w/ Air to Air Intercooler ands the SQ w/ Water to Air Aftercooler. Obviously from the few mods mentioned I have stock internals (12K fun miles on them) so I will be shooting for 10psi, no more. My eventual goals are 400rwhp safely. It will be a street car though I might take it to the track every now and then. I'm leaning ever so slightly to the Novi 1000 because of the slightly quicker spooling and Air to Air IC (but it will cost me $68 more than the SQ installed ). Opinions anyone??????? __________________ 2002 GT Convertible (5-Speed) Mods: 3.73 Gears Novi 1000 with Paxton Air to Air Intercooler Delta Chip (Tuned by Reinhart Automotive) 38lb Injectors 90mm Lightning MAF (threaded IAT sensor for Lightning and IAT plug from '93 Taurus wiring harness) relocated between the blower & throttle body 255lph Fuel Pump Autometer A-Pillar (Dual) with Vacuum/Boost Gauge & Exhaust Gas Temperature Gauge Motorcraft AWSF22C sparkplugs (.030 gap) Bassani X-Pipe with Cats Dyno #'s: 328.4rwhp & 340.9rwtq

10-05-2002, 08:02 PM	#2
jj_jonathon Trisket Join Date: May 2002 Location: University of Florida, FL Posts: ½ Posts: 1,560	lol, I have no experience with S/Cs but its kinda funny that youre looking at a difference of $68 so closely on products that are worth approx $2500 or so just in box......its smart too tho __________________ University of Florida - Physics Major My 02GT vert Media Center Pics BBK Underdrive Pulleys \| K&N FIPK (Gen II) \| Bullet Grille \| Mach 1 Chin Spoiler \| UPR Interior Parts \| XM Radio \| Audiobahn Subs Ricer Hater's Club Member #1/2 (30) http://www.ricehatersclub.com/

10-06-2002, 09:50 AM	#3
SleeperGT Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ponte Vedra Beach, FL Posts: 122	Custom Tune Most Important Bryan - I've had a Vortech for about six months now and have had no problems to date. I have learned that probably the single biggest item to be concerned with is the ability to have your car custom dyno tuned once the SC is installed. Both Paxton and Vortech make excellent products which will be very reliable and very powerful, however if you do not have easy access to a shop with a dyno and the expertise to tune your SC'ed car you're not going to get near the potential or your desired safe 400 rwhp. I am currently going through the giant pain in the rear of scheduling someone to actually come to my town to custom tune my car (unless someone can recommend a local mastermind tuner for Jacksonville, FL.....please, please, someone give me a strong recommendation). A local shop has tapped me into someone who is suppose to be a "genius" at tuning a 4.6 with a supercharger, but he is not local, so I'll get custom programs for my computer, but this is NOT to be considered a custom tune by any means (I have gotten significant power gains via this remote tuning, but I am also risking my engine because the first round of this I had significant detonation). You must have someone actually lay hands on your car with a dyno to get it right. Anyways, good luck! __________________ '00 GT 5-spd Vortech S-Trim 3.1" Pulley Paxton Air-to-Air Aftercooler 90 mm MAS 42 lb injectors Cobra Fuel Pump 70 mm AccuFab Throttlebody C & L Intake Plenum 2 1/2" X-pipes Anderson PowerPipe MagnaFlow Mufflers Diablo Custom Chip 3.73's Steeda Lower Control Arms 358 rwhp (Mustang Dyno) New Track Times Coming Soon

10-07-2002, 09:15 AM	#6
SleeperGT Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ponte Vedra Beach, FL Posts: 122	MMW Yea, that's who I'm currently working with. __________________ '00 GT 5-spd Vortech S-Trim 3.1" Pulley Paxton Air-to-Air Aftercooler 90 mm MAS 42 lb injectors Cobra Fuel Pump 70 mm AccuFab Throttlebody C & L Intake Plenum 2 1/2" X-pipes Anderson PowerPipe MagnaFlow Mufflers Diablo Custom Chip 3.73's Steeda Lower Control Arms 358 rwhp (Mustang Dyno) New Track Times Coming Soon

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10-07-2002, 06:21 AM	#5
coolie1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: jacksonville fl Posts: 29	hey sleeper have u tryed mustang moter sport in orange park?