Short belt for water pump only?

97 Aztec · 12-06-1999, 10:18 PM

What size belt would I need to only turn the water pump. For racing use only of course. Also are there any brackets made for the 4.6 SOHC to delete the A/C??? Any comments would be appreciated

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97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB,
shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and
125 hp NOS

StangLX50L · 12-06-1999, 11:33 PM

You have to run the alternator too! No doubt about it u have to run the alternator. It powers your battery and your spark needs all the voltage it can get. dont run without an alternator!!

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89' LX
Mac 1 5/8 Long Tubes, Off Road H-Pipe, 2 Chamber Flowmasters, MotorSport Wires, Accel Plugs, Accel Super Coil, 3.55's, Phenolic Spacer, E-303 Cam (282/282 .498/.498)
13.60 @ 100.77 on Junk Street Tires

97 Aztec · 12-07-1999, 02:32 PM

I had a guy tell me to take the belt off! Yeah right I said I might run w/o an alternator but not without a water pump! Any way I still need to know the size I would need to run just the alternater and water pump???????

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97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB,
shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and
125 hp NOS

john edwards · 12-08-1999, 01:52 AM

Your belt also runs your power brakes. Look for power elsewhere.

97 Aztec · 12-08-1999, 11:29 AM

OK, forget it, but I still want to delete the air conditioner. Are there any brackets or stuff like that like there is for a 5.0? What about if I just took it off and got a smaller belt?

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97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB,
shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and
125 hp NOS

95GTS · 12-08-1999, 11:30 AM

Yeah, you can do that 97Aztec. I know of guys doing it all the time. Go to Saleen's web board "tecktalk". They can tell ya. I think I have a MM&FF article on it too. Pretty sure I do. You can't hardly run the car much. Start it at the line, shut her off at the end (after you've slowed down)

But yes guys it can be done. Take a battery charger or another battery with you too.

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1996 Mustang GTS
All stock (not for long)
15.4 @ 94.4 mph (1/4 mi.)

[This message has been edited by 96GTS (edited 12-08-1999).]

97 Aztec · 12-08-1999, 11:36 AM

Hey how did you like my old beater truck, pretty cool huh! Believe it or not I used that old turd of a Chevy to pull me over 100 miles to the track last summer! Twice!

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97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB,
shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and
125 hp NOS

97 Aztec · 12-08-1999, 11:49 AM

I thought that your power brakes ran off of your intake, or is that just a Chevy thing? My buddy had to drill a hole in his intake to allow for his power brakes on his nova.

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97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB,
shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and
125 hp NOS

95GTS · 12-08-1999, 04:09 PM

Pretty nifty. How long were you behind me? I didn't even notice you till that stop light. I don't know about the power brakes but that sounds too weird to be a Ford thing. Probably just chevy.

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1996 Mustang GTS
All stock (not for long)
15.4 @ 94.4 mph (1/4 mi.)

john edwards · 12-08-1999, 06:05 PM

The power brakes are run off the power steering pump.

John Edwards
Mod Motor # 2
Yellow 99 GT
13.71 @ 100.69
on Factory Goodyears

97 Aztec · 12-08-1999, 07:10 PM

Ok, I am still going to lose the A/C. What size belt will I need and/or are there any brackets made? I would like to just take it off and get a smaller belt but what size do I need or how could I find out?

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97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB,
shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and
125 hp NOS

cdloc · 12-09-1999, 10:44 PM

I dont think you would gain anything by removing the a/c. When the a/c is turned off the compressor is nothing more than a idler pulley. I think the money spent to remove the a/c and get a smaller belt would be better spent on a set of pulleys. I would be suprised if you gained any hp by doing this.
Im also sure it gets hot back east.

12-06-1999, 10:18 PM	#1
97 Aztec Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Springfield,MO USA Posts: 85	Short belt for water pump only? What size belt would I need to only turn the water pump. For racing use only of course. Also are there any brackets made for the 4.6 SOHC to delete the A/C??? Any comments would be appreciated ------------------ 97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB, shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and 125 hp NOS

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12-06-1999, 11:33 PM	#2
StangLX50L Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: altoona, pa, usa Posts: 81	You have to run the alternator too! No doubt about it u have to run the alternator. It powers your battery and your spark needs all the voltage it can get. dont run without an alternator!! ------------------ 89' LX Mac 1 5/8 Long Tubes, Off Road H-Pipe, 2 Chamber Flowmasters, MotorSport Wires, Accel Plugs, Accel Super Coil, 3.55's, Phenolic Spacer, E-303 Cam (282/282 .498/.498) 13.60 @ 100.77 on Junk Street Tires

12-07-1999, 02:32 PM	#3
97 Aztec Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Springfield,MO USA Posts: 85	I had a guy tell me to take the belt off! Yeah right I said I might run w/o an alternator but not without a water pump! Any way I still need to know the size I would need to run just the alternater and water pump??????? ------------------ 97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB, shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and 125 hp NOS

12-08-1999, 01:52 AM	#4
john edwards Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Jonesborough, TN USA Posts: 167	Your belt also runs your power brakes. Look for power elsewhere.

12-08-1999, 11:29 AM	#5
97 Aztec Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Springfield,MO USA Posts: 85	OK, forget it, but I still want to delete the air conditioner. Are there any brackets or stuff like that like there is for a 5.0? What about if I just took it off and got a smaller belt? ------------------ 97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB, shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and 125 hp NOS

12-08-1999, 11:30 AM	#6
95GTS Git jiggy Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: MO USA Posts: 865	Yeah, you can do that 97Aztec. I know of guys doing it all the time. Go to Saleen's web board "tecktalk". They can tell ya. I think I have a MM&FF article on it too. Pretty sure I do. You can't hardly run the car much. Start it at the line, shut her off at the end (after you've slowed down) But yes guys it can be done. Take a battery charger or another battery with you too. ------------------ 1996 Mustang GTS All stock (not for long) 15.4 @ 94.4 mph (1/4 mi.) [This message has been edited by 96GTS (edited 12-08-1999).]

12-08-1999, 11:36 AM	#7
97 Aztec Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Springfield,MO USA Posts: 85	Hey how did you like my old beater truck, pretty cool huh! Believe it or not I used that old turd of a Chevy to pull me over 100 miles to the track last summer! Twice! ------------------ 97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB, shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and 125 hp NOS

12-08-1999, 11:49 AM	#8
97 Aztec Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Springfield,MO USA Posts: 85	I thought that your power brakes ran off of your intake, or is that just a Chevy thing? My buddy had to drill a hole in his intake to allow for his power brakes on his nova. ------------------ 97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB, shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and 125 hp NOS

12-08-1999, 04:09 PM	#9
95GTS Git jiggy Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: MO USA Posts: 865	Pretty nifty. How long were you behind me? I didn't even notice you till that stop light. I don't know about the power brakes but that sounds too weird to be a Ford thing. Probably just chevy. ------------------ 1996 Mustang GTS All stock (not for long) 15.4 @ 94.4 mph (1/4 mi.)

12-08-1999, 06:05 PM	#10
john edwards Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Jonesborough, TN USA Posts: 167	The power brakes are run off the power steering pump. John Edwards Mod Motor # 2 Yellow 99 GT 13.71 @ 100.69 on Factory Goodyears

12-08-1999, 07:10 PM	#11
97 Aztec Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Springfield,MO USA Posts: 85	Ok, I am still going to lose the A/C. What size belt will I need and/or are there any brackets made? I would like to just take it off and get a smaller belt but what size do I need or how could I find out? ------------------ 97 Aztec Gold GT w/Steeda heads,intake,TB, shifter,headers, subframe conn. 3"flowmaster exhaust and 125 hp NOS

12-09-1999, 10:44 PM	#12
cdloc Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Posts: 9	I dont think you would gain anything by removing the a/c. When the a/c is turned off the compressor is nothing more than a idler pulley. I think the money spent to remove the a/c and get a smaller belt would be better spent on a set of pulleys. I would be suprised if you gained any hp by doing this. Im also sure it gets hot back east.