[Lizard King]

Dark, you make a nice point. Not to many 5.0s are stock anymore... and yes with an exaust and gears, they should hand our asses.

One of my buddies with a mint 5.0 (only 35K miles on it) runs pulleys, mufflers (not complete exaust) cold air and a set of 3.55s.
He ran today a best 13.8 at our track. It wasn't VHTed, hence fairly sliperry so his times where not the best, but I think he is good for a solid 13.6... Anyways I raced him tonight and he cleaned my clock by about a car lenght.

I know that you have conceeded your point DARK, but for Unit, the fact remains that a stock 225HP 5.0 and a stock 260HP 4.6 (2nd Gen) are not matched.

On another hand, with the Exaust I am putting on and pulleys I hope to pull some low 13s (13.1-13.2) ... so should be able to compete directly against the GM LS1 boys. Imagine if I throw some 3.73s and slicks...!!!! WOW!