[Hammer]

Well,
I think this thread has been officially beat to death.

Good points made on both sides. Only thing that I think is funny is just what "stock" means to some folks... (on both sides of this issue)

I think we can conclude that both engines are very capable, well made powerplants.

A good friend of mine once said:
"Stop flappin' your gums and show me a time slip..."

And the rest my friends, should be settled at the track...