New Motor Being Built(BLOWN 347) E.T.A. 1 week :)

SaleenGTS · 09-30-2001, 10:44 AM

WEll, I thought I posted this already but I guess it didn't take. Here is what I have in the shop being built and what I else I am having done this week.

302 Block bored .030
347 Forged crank that I had sitting in my garage
Eagle H-Beam rods
D.S.S. Forged flycut pistons for a .593/.572 cam 9.7:1
Speed Pro Plasma Moly rings, no gap, anti-blowby
Canton 7 qt oil pan with Windage tray
ARP studs and bolts on everything

That set me back about 2G's with labor, BUT I had the block and crank.

I also sent my heads off to be ported. at our local race guy. He is giving me a portjob to flow about 290-300 cfm/220-230 cfm, and matching my Intakes to it. He is also doing a 5 angle v.j. and resurfacing my heads. He is charging me ONLY $500 for all that. I am pumped. Hopefilly I will have it running within the next two weeks.

I am also hoping for about 550 rwhp with 9#'s.....do you guys think it will happen????

Til then

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Dustin
89 Saleen GT Sport,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

12.3@119 street tires

11.496@121.08slicks

Skyman · 09-30-2001, 01:32 PM

Damn, thats gonna be one insane beast of a car.

550rwhp, I hope that block holds together! IT is a stock block you know!

I saw its probably possible with a good tune.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20.
12.54@107.4 Motor
332RWHP, 350rwtq

SaleenGTS · 09-30-2001, 02:48 PM

Sky Sorry, I forgot to mention that is it a 4 bolt. Got it from an old man that sold all of his sons car goodies when he died about a year ago. I got the crank and block for $300.

I would be insane trying to put 550 through a stock 2 block.

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Dustin
89 Saleen GT Sport,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

12.3@119 street tires

11.496@121.08slicks

[This message has been edited by SaleenGTS (edited 09-30-2001).]

Rick 91GT · 09-30-2001, 06:46 PM

Sounds like that will be a good solid motor and I think 550 is very possible with 9-11psi on that motor.

Stock block will take a lot with a good tune, my buddy "MUSMONDO" had a 750RWHP XX-Trim 23psi set-up on his stock 89 block, shifted at 7400rpm and it lived and is still living in another car with the same set-up, it's all in the tune, he ran a DFI and had everything tuned in right. Although I still can't see how he did that.

Good Luck, now lets see how the tranny holds up

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Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension, SPEC stage III clutch, Lakewood SFI bell, S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon!
[b]12.16 @ 113.5, 1.78 60ft..no traction in the 90 degree

exgmguy · 10-01-2001, 02:30 PM

Cool, I hope it runs good for ya.

1BAD89 · 10-01-2001, 05:13 PM

That's awesome, sounds like it's going to be one nice set-up. OMG I bet your pumped. Hey after you get it done, I'd like to come up there(OKC) in my truck it'll be done in about a week. Justin.

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1989 GT, 3:55's, full exhaust, 4 in. hood, Pro 5.0, Have many other parts 4 sale. All parts for sale now.

2000 Camaro SS-A4, 13.7's bone stock.

1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!

asg7180 · 10-01-2001, 10:27 PM

Why even mess with a 302, 347, or 351?

If you're going to build a mustang do it right! Go with a 429 Cobra Jet with twin Paxton Superchargers.

Check it out @ http://www.cobraautomotive.com/images/paxlnk.jpg

this is the way to get real power, and real speed. Don't mess around with small blocks go with big blocks.

Andrew

PWR_RYD93 · 10-02-2001, 08:34 AM

The only thing I question in your setup is your choice of rings. When you say "no gap, anti blowby" are you talking about gapless rings? If so, DO NOT use them in a forced induction setup!

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Craig
Supercharged 93 GT
Basically stock 93 Cobra
"I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol!"

SaleenGTS · 10-02-2001, 08:57 AM

Really??? Those are what D.S.S. recommended that I use to keep from blowby. Why do you say not to use them? Please respond quick, cause it IS IN THE SHOP.

asg7180- Not all of us are made of money like you

why put a twin blown 429 in a 3000 lb street car? Makes no sense to me. I think my 347 will do just fine....thanks for your input though.

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Dustin
89 Saleen GT Sport,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

12.3@119 street tires

11.496@121.08slicks

Coupe Devil · 10-02-2001, 09:30 AM

Hey SaleenGTS are you planning on putting 550 to the ground on stock rear suspension? I read your'e sig and didn't see and rear end mods. What gear are you running? I would say tou could even get very high 8's with a good set of lower arms and a set of 430 or 456 gears if you do make 550rwhp. Oh yeah when you get it broken in get that thing to a dyno. I would like to use a blown 347 in my drag car one day if the numbers are good enough.

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'93 lx notch 4 banger (drive it to work currently), Using the 306, 8.8 posi, 4.10's, summit rear cover, elec. fan, cowl hood, wieand stealth intake, holley 650 d.p.carb., built c-4, e-303, full autometer guages, msd box, mallory unilite dist, and coil, roll cage, summit seat, subs, 15x10's in the back with slicks, skinnies up front, all in use for 1988 Hatch Drag Car. Hope to start running next year. Hoping for 7.20's after all is done with small motor.

[This message has been edited by pony_power_90 (edited 10-02-2001).]

PWR_RYD93 · 10-02-2001, 10:01 AM

I received that information directly from two different ring manufacturers (Speed Pro, Childs & Alberts). Gapless are okay for n/a, but not forced induction. My machinist strongly agreed! Call Coast High/Probe, Keithcraft, Bennett Racing, ASSC, etc. and ask them what they think.

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Craig
Supercharged 93 GT
Basically stock 93 Cobra
"I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol!"

Rick 91GT · 10-02-2001, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PWR_RYD93:
I received that information directly from two different ring manufacturers (Speed Pro, Childs & Alberts). Gapless are okay for n/a, but not forced induction. My machinist strongly agreed! Call Coast High/Probe, Keithcraft, Bennett Racing, ASSC, etc. and ask them what they think.

Craig knows he stuff, and I too have heard to not run gapless rings on a forced induction car.

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Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension, SPEC stage III clutch, Lakewood SFI bell, S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon!
[b]12.16 @ 113.5, 1.78 60ft..no traction in the 90 degree

09-30-2001, 10:44 AM	#1
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	New Motor Being Built(BLOWN 347) E.T.A. 1 week :) WEll, I thought I posted this already but I guess it didn't take. Here is what I have in the shop being built and what I else I am having done this week. 302 Block bored .030 347 Forged crank that I had sitting in my garage Eagle H-Beam rods D.S.S. Forged flycut pistons for a .593/.572 cam 9.7:1 Speed Pro Plasma Moly rings, no gap, anti-blowby Canton 7 qt oil pan with Windage tray ARP studs and bolts on everything That set me back about 2G's with labor, BUT I had the block and crank. I also sent my heads off to be ported. at our local race guy. He is giving me a portjob to flow about 290-300 cfm/220-230 cfm, and matching my Intakes to it. He is also doing a 5 angle v.j. and resurfacing my heads. He is charging me ONLY $500 for all that. I am pumped. Hopefilly I will have it running within the next two weeks. I am also hoping for about 550 rwhp with 9#'s.....do you guys think it will happen???? Til then ------------------ Dustin 89 Saleen GT Sport,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's 12.3@119 street tires 11.496@121.08slicks

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09-30-2001, 01:32 PM	#2
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Damn, thats gonna be one insane beast of a car. 550rwhp, I hope that block holds together! IT is a stock block you know! I saw its probably possible with a good tune. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20. 12.54@107.4 Motor *332RWHP, 350rwtq*

09-30-2001, 02:48 PM	#3
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	Sky Sorry, I forgot to mention that is it a 4 bolt. Got it from an old man that sold all of his sons car goodies when he died about a year ago. I got the crank and block for $300. I would be insane trying to put 550 through a stock 2 block. ------------------ Dustin 89 Saleen GT Sport,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's 12.3@119 street tires 11.496@121.08slicks [This message has been edited by SaleenGTS (edited 09-30-2001).]

09-30-2001, 06:46 PM	#4
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	Sounds like that will be a good solid motor and I think 550 is very possible with 9-11psi on that motor. Stock block will take a lot with a good tune, my buddy "MUSMONDO" had a 750RWHP XX-Trim 23psi set-up on his stock 89 block, shifted at 7400rpm and it lived and is still living in another car with the same set-up, it's all in the tune, he ran a DFI and had everything tuned in right. Although I still can't see how he did that. Good Luck, now lets see how the tranny holds up ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension, SPEC stage III clutch, Lakewood SFI bell, S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! [b]12.16 @ 113.5, 1.78 60ft..no traction in the 90 degree

10-01-2001, 02:30 PM	#5
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	Cool, I hope it runs good for ya.

10-01-2001, 05:13 PM	#6
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	That's awesome, sounds like it's going to be one nice set-up. OMG I bet your pumped. Hey after you get it done, I'd like to come up there(OKC) in my truck it'll be done in about a week. Justin. ------------------ 1989 GT, 3:55's, full exhaust, 4 in. hood, Pro 5.0, Have many other parts 4 sale. All parts for sale now. 2000 Camaro SS-A4, 13.7's bone stock. 1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!

10-01-2001, 10:27 PM	#7
asg7180 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Blue Springs, MO USA Posts: 5	Why even mess with a 302, 347, or 351? If you're going to build a mustang do it right! Go with a 429 Cobra Jet with twin Paxton Superchargers. Check it out @ http://www.cobraautomotive.com/images/paxlnk.jpg this is the way to get real power, and real speed. Don't mess around with small blocks go with big blocks. Andrew

10-02-2001, 08:34 AM	#8
PWR_RYD93 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: IL Posts: 1,155	The only thing I question in your setup is your choice of rings. When you say "no gap, anti blowby" are you talking about gapless rings? If so, DO NOT use them in a forced induction setup! ------------------ Craig Supercharged 93 GT Basically stock 93 Cobra "I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol!"

10-02-2001, 08:57 AM	#9
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	Really??? Those are what D.S.S. recommended that I use to keep from blowby. Why do you say not to use them? Please respond quick, cause it IS IN THE SHOP. asg7180- Not all of us are made of money like you why put a twin blown 429 in a 3000 lb street car? Makes no sense to me. I think my 347 will do just fine....thanks for your input though. ------------------ Dustin 89 Saleen GT Sport,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's 12.3@119 street tires 11.496@121.08slicks

10-02-2001, 09:30 AM	#10
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	Hey SaleenGTS are you planning on putting 550 to the ground on stock rear suspension? I read your'e sig and didn't see and rear end mods. What gear are you running? I would say tou could even get very high 8's with a good set of lower arms and a set of 430 or 456 gears if you do make 550rwhp. Oh yeah when you get it broken in get that thing to a dyno. I would like to use a blown 347 in my drag car one day if the numbers are good enough. ------------------ '93 lx notch 4 banger (drive it to work currently), Using the 306, 8.8 posi, 4.10's, summit rear cover, elec. fan, cowl hood, wieand stealth intake, holley 650 d.p.carb., built c-4, e-303, full autometer guages, msd box, mallory unilite dist, and coil, roll cage, summit seat, subs, 15x10's in the back with slicks, skinnies up front, all in use for 1988 Hatch Drag Car. Hope to start running next year. Hoping for 7.20's after all is done with small motor. [This message has been edited by pony_power_90 (edited 10-02-2001).]

10-02-2001, 10:01 AM	#11
PWR_RYD93 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: IL Posts: 1,155	I received that information directly from two different ring manufacturers (Speed Pro, Childs & Alberts). Gapless are okay for n/a, but not forced induction. My machinist strongly agreed! Call Coast High/Probe, Keithcraft, Bennett Racing, ASSC, etc. and ask them what they think. ------------------ Craig Supercharged 93 GT Basically stock 93 Cobra "I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol!"