Got my @$$ handed to me by a Lexus GS

StangGT2v · 01-26-2002, 07:20 AM

I have a 2000 GT Auto with a cold airk it and exhaust, nothing big. But I raced my friend who has a 98 Lexus GS, first race started on highway he BLEW me away. Second race was commin out of toll plaza, I had him up to 70mph then he flew ahead. Just thought Id share my embarrasing moment with you guys.

Turbo99GT · 01-26-2002, 10:09 AM

He must have a GS400 which is quite fast for a 4 door. I believe there 0-60 numbers were 5.8 sec. I also believe they have 300 hp which always makes a difference on the highway. Let the mods begin.

Ares · 01-26-2002, 04:30 PM

Better to be beat by a 300hp Lexus then a 150hp honda

StoplightWarrior · 01-26-2002, 04:40 PM

The 98 GS's did not have 300hp as far as I know. I think they just got the boost in power in 2000. When my GT was bone stock (cept for the K&N filter) I raced a pre-2000 GS on the freeway and it was even up to about 110. With my x-pipe and pulleys, I raced an older GS400 from a stop, and pulled him easily up to about 80, when I shut it down.

Get some pulleys and an x-pipe in that thing next. With the pulleys in, I could chirp second gear. With the X-pipe, I lowered my 0-60 time from 6 flat to 5.7sec. Any questions about my setup, feel free to email me.

Turbo99GT · 01-26-2002, 08:20 PM

Um, the 98 GS400 did have 300 hp and 310 lb-ft.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/1998/lex...tml?id=lin0066

I'm sorry, but this car could beat a stock 99-up auto GT on the highway. You can't make up for the hp with simple bolt-ons when racing from a highway roll with 40 less hp. The car was heavy so you can get out in front off of the line, but from a highway roll, you will not catch one.

StoplightWarrior · 01-26-2002, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by Turbo99GT
Um, the 98 GS400 did have 300 hp and 310 lb-ft.

I'm sorry, but this car could beat a stock 99-up auto GT on the highway. You can't make up for the hp with simple bolt-ons when racing from a highway roll with 40 less hp. The car was heavy so you can get out in front off of the line, but from a highway roll, you will not catch one.

My bad on the HP #'s. A buddy of mine has a new GS430, and he said it had 320hp. He said it was the first lexus with over 300horses, so I assumed the older GS's had less than that.

As far as racing the GS's, keep in mind they weigh 3700lbs. That is a lot of weight to get moving. When I raced the GS400 from a stoplight, I shut down around 80. It didn't look at all like he was closing the gap, maybe he just gave up.

In my hiway run-in with the GS, I thought it was a 400 series, but maybe it was a 300? I wouldn't think I would have just run even with a GS300 though? Anything can (and will) happen on the street!

CobraFire98 · 01-27-2002, 10:05 AM

People, I have a pretty quick Cobra. My advise: When it comes to endurance runs and anything involving a highway, don't race any high priced import, especially B&W, or Lexis. The fact is, and I know this by experience, those cars can haul, we just never see anyone dumb enough to spend big greens on a luxury car and race one of us "lower-classed" car owners (as they might say).
STORY TIME (FOR PROOF):
There was a new Lexis on my butt (the cheap $32,000 one that we don't even consider) and so I decided to show him what it's about while we were getting onto the highway. Granted, I took off like Hell, but from 80-120 I never epanded the gap that was created by the take-off. In fact, I think if anything, the gap was closing by a bit.
Also, I have done the highway thing with a four door beemer, and he wanted to play. We could be at 100, and when I dropped and he did...whatever he did (sequential sport-shifting...) HE would close the gap, and I could do nothing.
My mom and dad's 94 Acura Legend was hanging with me on the highway at speeds of 115 and up and at one point even passed me.

Those cars are geared for that. They don't give a hoot about racing. It's all about pushing 110 and gliding across the highway with one hand on the wheel and the other adjusting their navigation computer, or playing Beethoven's Fifth on their premium Bose System. There's only so much that you can do at those speeds anyway unless you were packing a supercharger with a six speed!!

Skyman · 01-28-2002, 03:00 AM

Sorry 4 door BMW doesnt say much. Could be a 323 or a 525. Or it could have been a 540 w/ the 6spd.

Also if the legend is beating you on the freeway you need to take that cobra back to the shop or out of 5th gear.

Sky

blue00gt · 01-28-2002, 01:48 PM

CobraFire: those cars shouldn't be beating you like that. I have raced a few BMW 540s, Lexus, new Cadillacs with the Northstar, etc, up to about 130+ and the only thing that beat me on the freeway was a GS430. Are you redlining that Cobra when you race these people?

97snakedriver · 01-29-2002, 02:43 AM

Yeah, no kidding. With stock 3.27s you should be in third gear up over a 100 and 4th gear till 160. You're not running out of gear.

I wouldn't expect you to pull on a GS400 at 100+ since weight/hp means less and aero/hp means more so your advantages goes away, but it shouldn't be pulling on or passing you either. A Legan shouldn't pull on or even hand with you regardless. My room mate had a 94 Legand (auto) which we lined up a few times for the hell of it when I was stock. It wasn't close anywhere.

The new M3 or M5 will give you fits as it walks on by at that speed, but the GS400 shouldn't.

BTW, how much shifting do you do at 100+ mph?

01-26-2002, 07:20 AM	#1
StangGT2v Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: W. Keasnburg, NJ, USA Posts: 14	Got my @$$ handed to me by a Lexus GS I have a 2000 GT Auto with a cold airk it and exhaust, nothing big. But I raced my friend who has a 98 Lexus GS, first race started on highway he BLEW me away. Second race was commin out of toll plaza, I had him up to 70mph then he flew ahead. Just thought Id share my embarrasing moment with you guys.

01-26-2002, 10:09 AM	#2
Turbo99GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 71	He must have a GS400 which is quite fast for a 4 door. I believe there 0-60 numbers were 5.8 sec. I also believe they have 300 hp which always makes a difference on the highway. Let the mods begin. __________________ 99 Silver GT Auto DTA Built Engine w/P&P heads, TDC Turbo (T-76), Built 4R70W, PI Multi-Disc 3200 T/C, Eaton 31 Spline Carrier, Strange 31 Spline Axles, Aeromotive 1000 HP fuel system, 66lb injectors, MSD DIS4, Accel DFI Gen VII & Mac 3" cat-back. Built by Jade Performance Best on Nitto D/Rs 11.698 @ 120.898 @ 12 psi (built block) Best on Slicks 10.922 @ 122.95 (stock longblock)

01-26-2002, 04:30 PM	#3
Ares Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Saxonburg, PA, USA Posts: 236	Better to be beat by a 300hp Lexus then a 150hp honda __________________ Ed.. My Mustangs webpage NMRA M/M 7222 2000 Mustang GT - 5 speed Race weight w/o driver 3086lbs, 3250 w/ driver Best 1/4mile run to date: 12.79@105.96, 60' 1.76sec.(10-27-02) Best MPH 106.03(10-27-02)4.10gears

01-26-2002, 04:40 PM	#4
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	The 98 GS's did not have 300hp as far as I know. I think they just got the boost in power in 2000. When my GT was bone stock (cept for the K&N filter) I raced a pre-2000 GS on the freeway and it was even up to about 110. With my x-pipe and pulleys, I raced an older GS400 from a stop, and pulled him easily up to about 80, when I shut it down. Get some pulleys and an x-pipe in that thing next. With the pulleys in, I could chirp second gear. With the X-pipe, I lowered my 0-60 time from 6 flat to 5.7sec. Any questions about my setup, feel free to email me. __________________ Black 2000 GT Auto V2-SQ, Full Steeda G-trac Suspension, Baer Brakes, Saleen Body Kit, Corbeau CR1s, Chrome Cobra R's, etc, etc... 341rwhp, 338 torque 1994 Cobra #4343 Bolt on's only... Cofounder of Raccoon Racing

01-26-2002, 08:20 PM	#5
Turbo99GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 71	Um, the 98 GS400 did have 300 hp and 310 lb-ft. http://www.edmunds.com/used/1998/lex...tml?id=lin0066 I'm sorry, but this car could beat a stock 99-up auto GT on the highway. You can't make up for the hp with simple bolt-ons when racing from a highway roll with 40 less hp. The car was heavy so you can get out in front off of the line, but from a highway roll, you will not catch one. __________________ 99 Silver GT Auto DTA Built Engine w/P&P heads, TDC Turbo (T-76), Built 4R70W, PI Multi-Disc 3200 T/C, Eaton 31 Spline Carrier, Strange 31 Spline Axles, Aeromotive 1000 HP fuel system, 66lb injectors, MSD DIS4, Accel DFI Gen VII & Mac 3" cat-back. Built by Jade Performance Best on Nitto D/Rs 11.698 @ 120.898 @ 12 psi (built block) Best on Slicks 10.922 @ 122.95 (stock longblock)

01-27-2002, 10:05 AM	#7
CobraFire98 Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 36	OKAY...here it is...... People, I have a pretty quick Cobra. My advise: When it comes to endurance runs and anything involving a highway, don't race any high priced import, especially B&W, or Lexis. The fact is, and I know this by experience, those cars can haul, we just never see anyone dumb enough to spend big greens on a luxury car and race one of us "lower-classed" car owners (as they might say). STORY TIME (FOR PROOF): There was a new Lexis on my butt (the cheap $32,000 one that we don't even consider) and so I decided to show him what it's about while we were getting onto the highway. Granted, I took off like Hell, but from 80-120 I never epanded the gap that was created by the take-off. In fact, I think if anything, the gap was closing by a bit. Also, I have done the highway thing with a four door beemer, and he wanted to play. We could be at 100, and when I dropped and he did...whatever he did (sequential sport-shifting...) HE would close the gap, and I could do nothing. My mom and dad's 94 Acura Legend was hanging with me on the highway at speeds of 115 and up and at one point even passed me. Those cars are geared for that. They don't give a hoot about racing. It's all about pushing 110 and gliding across the highway with one hand on the wheel and the other adjusting their navigation computer, or playing Beethoven's Fifth on their premium Bose System. There's only so much that you can do at those speeds anyway unless you were packing a supercharger with a six speed!! __________________ Tony 1998 Cobra

01-28-2002, 03:00 AM	#8
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Sorry 4 door BMW doesnt say much. Could be a 323 or a 525. Or it could have been a 540 w/ the 6spd. Also if the legend is beating you on the freeway you need to take that cobra back to the shop or out of 5th gear. Sky __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

01-28-2002, 01:48 PM	#9
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	CobraFire: those cars shouldn't be beating you like that. I have raced a few BMW 540s, Lexus, new Cadillacs with the Northstar, etc, up to about 130+ and the only thing that beat me on the freeway was a GS430. Are you redlining that Cobra when you race these people? __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

01-29-2002, 02:43 AM	#10
97snakedriver Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,526	Yeah, no kidding. With stock 3.27s you should be in third gear up over a 100 and 4th gear till 160. You're not running out of gear. I wouldn't expect you to pull on a GS400 at 100+ since weight/hp means less and aero/hp means more so your advantages goes away, but it shouldn't be pulling on or passing you either. A Legan shouldn't pull on or even hand with you regardless. My room mate had a 94 Legand (auto) which we lined up a few times for the hell of it when I was stock. It wasn't close anywhere. The new M3 or M5 will give you fits as it walks on by at that speed, but the GS400 shouldn't. BTW, how much shifting do you do at 100+ mph?

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