Impalla SS w/ LT1

Titan · 12-16-2003, 02:21 PM

I think the LT1 is the vette engine...

Anyway, a co-worker owns one (the caprice body style SS) and I drove it earlier today. I wasn't very impressed...my car felt like it pulled much harder w/ the much smaller modular engine. When I told them this, they said I was crazy, the corvette engine would wax my car. Anybody know any specs or have any first hand knowledge with this style car? It has no modifications other than an aftermarket water pump, so it's pretty much stock.

Dark_5.0 · 12-16-2003, 02:48 PM

LMAO...The LT1 vettes were not to impressive and they weigh 3000 lbs.

His 4000 lbs tank is really a turd.

You would smoke his @ss something terrible.

Put money on it

91LX2Bfast · 12-17-2003, 09:07 AM

Some people have no idea of the term "power to weight ratio." Just as Dark_5.0 said, when its in a 4000+ lb car, that makes a huge difference.
Non of this takes anything away from his car, it's still an incredibly cool car to own. But if he's running his mouth, you might just have to race him and put him in his place.
On another note: When I had my bolt on 4.6L Tbird that ran 14.6-14.8's, it would go door to door with gear'd, tc'd, full exhaust, etc SS's. So even if he does some intake and exhaust work, go for it.

SOHCGT96 · 12-17-2003, 04:48 PM

First off, its not the same as a Vette engine. I beleive it has iron heads instead of aluminum, and likely has a milder cam as well. Plus an extra half ton of weight to move. You don't race engines, you race cars

429mustang · 12-17-2003, 09:37 PM

I was reading about the 5.7's, for the same year the corvette's was putting out 300hp/335lb-ft while the Impala had 260hp/330lb-ft so it's definitely set up different as far as cam/etc. I don't know what it ois about a lot of Chevy people, but they seem to think anthing that has to do with corvettes pretty much exceeds anything else. I think corvettes are a waste of money, plus what other vehicle can be more associated with MID LIFE CRISIS? The Z06's are pretty decent though, but still expensive (I'd definitely like to drive a TT Lingenfelter though).

explicitone · 12-17-2003, 09:49 PM

I say race him you should beat him they run mid to low 15s stock at least the ones I have seen

xxxBlakexxx · 12-17-2003, 11:58 PM

My brother is a Chevy guy...he owns a '97 Z-28 (with lots of mods)...car puts out close to 500 hp. His car has the LT1 motor which is the same engine as in the Impalla SS and the Corvette. The biggest difference is in the air induction. On the Camaro and the Impalla, the air is pinched. One of the first mods that a Z-28 owner will put into place is to correct that problem and add a bunch of ponies.

Saying that a Vette is a waste of money (or over-priced) is certainly a matter of opionion. Personally I think the car is cheap, cheap, cheap. For under $50k (for a new one), you get mid 12's and 0-60 in 4 seconds! And a used one in great shape can be gotten for less $ than a new Cobra.

The Vette is built world-class and can run and handle with almost anything on the road. Sure, it does not have the reputation of an Itallian, but at a fraction of the price, the Vette is all that and a bag of doughnuts. And, the car will do circles around a Mustang...of course most guys who drive Vettes are as old as dirt.

We should not criticize the Vette. Why? Because the Vette and the Mustang are the last of a breed...American Muscle. In case you haven't noticed, the Rice Racers are kicking our *** when it comes to sales of cars and the after-market items. I was saddened when GM decided to scrap the Camaro...sure it was funny at first and I am sure that Mustang sales took a little bump, but the competition that existed between the Mustang and Camaro for nearly 40 years made the car what it is today. Now there is nothing...but us and a Vette that cost twice as much.

Long live the American V-8!

GTvert · 12-18-2003, 01:09 PM

I hate it when people call all 350 engines "corvette engines". Just more ignorant chevy owners who want their inferior cars to have a higher status than they deserve. I like the impala ss as far as a family car goes, but other than that, just about any GT should be able to beat it. If it is stock and you can run anywhere near 15.00 you should bet the farm.

Dark_5.0 · 12-18-2003, 01:57 PM

I just remembered the episode of HP TV I watched where a stock LT1 Impala put down 206 to the wheels.

Now thats scary.

LMAO.

GTvert · 12-18-2003, 02:02 PM

Yeah, so 206 rwhp in a tank = nothing to be scared of.

blue00gt · 12-18-2003, 03:24 PM

I haven't ridden in any new vettes with many miles on them, but I was very unimpressed with the build quality of the previous gen vettes - they rattle like crazy all over when they get some miles on them.

SOHCGT96 · 12-21-2003, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GTvert
I hate it when people call all 350 engines "corvette engines". Just more ignorant chevy owners who want their inferior cars to have a higher status than they deserve. I like the impala ss as far as a family car goes, but other than that, just about any GT should be able to beat it. If it is stock and you can run anywhere near 15.00 you should bet the farm.

I agree. Lots of 82-92 F-body guys call the TPI 350 a Corvette motor when in fact it is not. Even the LT1s were different. Like I said, the Impala has different heads, and seeing how thats kinda the most important part of the engine as far as power is concerned...

The LT1 impala is way overhyped. Its no faster than an altima, 3.8 Impala, Duratec SHO, or just about any of the other modern family cars if you get them with their best motors.

xxxBlakexxx · 12-21-2003, 08:44 PM

I must admit that I own a Chevy. It's an '02 Suburban Z-Z1 with a big V-8.

I'de like to think that the Vette has the Suburban engine!

SOHCGT96 · 12-22-2003, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxBlakexxx
I must admit that I own a Chevy. It's an '02 Suburban Z-Z1 with a big V-8.

I'de like to think that the Vette has the Suburban engine!

Well, something to think about: All the LS1 guys hitting serious power levels switch over to the Iron truck blocks and bottom ends... the 6.0 I think is a popular way to go, it can still use the aluminum GenIII heads from the cars as far as I know.

12-16-2003, 02:21 PM	#1
Titan Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 296	Impalla SS w/ LT1 I think the LT1 is the vette engine... Anyway, a co-worker owns one (the caprice body style SS) and I drove it earlier today. I wasn't very impressed...my car felt like it pulled much harder w/ the much smaller modular engine. When I told them this, they said I was crazy, the corvette engine would wax my car. Anybody know any specs or have any first hand knowledge with this style car? It has no modifications other than an aftermarket water pump, so it's pretty much stock. __________________ Current Sophomore -- Mechanical Engineering Black on Black 98' GT 5-Speed Mods = Stuff

12-16-2003, 02:48 PM	#2
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	LMAO...The LT1 vettes were not to impressive and they weigh 3000 lbs. His 4000 lbs tank is really a turd. You would smoke his @ss something terrible. Put money on it __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

12-17-2003, 09:07 AM	#3
91LX2Bfast Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Warrington, PA Posts: 694	Some people have no idea of the term "power to weight ratio." Just as Dark_5.0 said, when its in a 4000+ lb car, that makes a huge difference. Non of this takes anything away from his car, it's still an incredibly cool car to own. But if he's running his mouth, you might just have to race him and put him in his place. On another note: When I had my bolt on 4.6L Tbird that ran 14.6-14.8's, it would go door to door with gear'd, tc'd, full exhaust, etc SS's. So even if he does some intake and exhaust work, go for it. __________________ '97 T-bird LX 4.6L 2V, auto SVO heads/intake, Vortech T-trim, front mounted intercooler, blower cams, Cobra crank, Manley H-beam rods, JE pistons, Aeromotive fuel system w/ 42# injectors, and much more No times yet

12-17-2003, 09:37 PM	#5
429mustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: westerville, OH USA Posts: 618	I was reading about the 5.7's, for the same year the corvette's was putting out 300hp/335lb-ft while the Impala had 260hp/330lb-ft so it's definitely set up different as far as cam/etc. I don't know what it ois about a lot of Chevy people, but they seem to think anthing that has to do with corvettes pretty much exceeds anything else. I think corvettes are a waste of money, plus what other vehicle can be more associated with MID LIFE CRISIS? The Z06's are pretty decent though, but still expensive (I'd definitely like to drive a TT Lingenfelter though). __________________ 1990 Notchback: BBK Ceramic Coated Full length headers, Dr. Gas 3"- 2 1/2" x-pipe, Flowmaster 40's/turndowns.

12-17-2003, 09:49 PM	#6
explicitone Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: racine ,wi Posts: 691	I say race him you should beat him they run mid to low 15s stock at least the ones I have seen __________________ RUN IT STAIGHT AND RUN IT HARD ________ Novi 2000 60' 1.46 1/4 10.67 mph 126.5 _________

12-17-2003, 04:48 PM	#4
SOHCGT96 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Peoria/Normal Illinois Posts: 11	First off, its not the same as a Vette engine. I beleive it has iron heads instead of aluminum, and likely has a milder cam as well. Plus an extra half ton of weight to move. You don't race engines, you race cars

12-17-2003, 11:58 PM	#7
xxxBlakexxx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountaintop, PA Posts: 634	My brother is a Chevy guy...he owns a '97 Z-28 (with lots of mods)...car puts out close to 500 hp. His car has the LT1 motor which is the same engine as in the Impalla SS and the Corvette. The biggest difference is in the air induction. On the Camaro and the Impalla, the air is pinched. One of the first mods that a Z-28 owner will put into place is to correct that problem and add a bunch of ponies. Saying that a Vette is a waste of money (or over-priced) is certainly a matter of opionion. Personally I think the car is cheap, cheap, cheap. For under $50k (for a new one), you get mid 12's and 0-60 in 4 seconds! And a used one in great shape can be gotten for less $ than a new Cobra. The Vette is built world-class and can run and handle with almost anything on the road. Sure, it does not have the reputation of an Itallian, but at a fraction of the price, the Vette is all that and a bag of doughnuts. And, the car will do circles around a Mustang...of course most guys who drive Vettes are as old as dirt. We should not criticize the Vette. Why? Because the Vette and the Mustang are the last of a breed...American Muscle. In case you haven't noticed, the Rice Racers are kicking our *** when it comes to sales of cars and the after-market items. I was saddened when GM decided to scrap the Camaro...sure it was funny at first and I am sure that Mustang sales took a little bump, but the competition that existed between the Mustang and Camaro for nearly 40 years made the car what it is today. Now there is nothing...but us and a Vette that cost twice as much. Long live the American V-8! __________________ "Children should not get cancer, but they do!" Help a child with cancer at www.homeoftheirown.org My Stang: 2000 Mustang GT Vert - Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter; C&L Plenum; BBK 75 mm TB; Steeda Strut Tower Supports; Black "Deep Dish" Bullet Wheels; FRPP 4.10's; Steeda Subframes; SLP Catback & SLP Catted X-Pipe; SCT 4 Position Chip with 3 custom tunes; Steeda CAI; Venom-1000 Nitrous; Roush Stage 3 Body Kit; Bullet Suspension Package (on the way)

12-18-2003, 01:09 PM	#8
GTvert Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West Plains Posts: 74	I hate it when people call all 350 engines "corvette engines". Just more ignorant chevy owners who want their inferior cars to have a higher status than they deserve. I like the impala ss as far as a family car goes, but other than that, just about any GT should be able to beat it. If it is stock and you can run anywhere near 15.00 you should bet the farm. __________________ Slower Traffic Keep Right

12-18-2003, 01:57 PM	#9
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	I just remembered the episode of HP TV I watched where a stock LT1 Impala put down 206 to the wheels. Now thats scary. LMAO. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

12-18-2003, 02:02 PM	#10
GTvert Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West Plains Posts: 74	Yeah, so 206 rwhp in a tank = nothing to be scared of. __________________ Slower Traffic Keep Right

12-18-2003, 03:24 PM	#11
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	I haven't ridden in any new vettes with many miles on them, but I was very unimpressed with the build quality of the previous gen vettes - they rattle like crazy all over when they get some miles on them. __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

12-21-2003, 08:44 PM	#13
xxxBlakexxx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountaintop, PA Posts: 634	I must admit that I own a Chevy. It's an '02 Suburban Z-Z1 with a big V-8. I'de like to think that the Vette has the Suburban engine! __________________ "Children should not get cancer, but they do!" Help a child with cancer at www.homeoftheirown.org My Stang: 2000 Mustang GT Vert - Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter; C&L Plenum; BBK 75 mm TB; Steeda Strut Tower Supports; Black "Deep Dish" Bullet Wheels; FRPP 4.10's; Steeda Subframes; SLP Catback & SLP Catted X-Pipe; SCT 4 Position Chip with 3 custom tunes; Steeda CAI; Venom-1000 Nitrous; Roush Stage 3 Body Kit; Bullet Suspension Package (on the way)