NOS or CAMS

99MUSTANGGT · 11-14-1999, 10:31 PM

WHAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE CAR. I HEARD THAT NOS DOESENT HURT CARS.I KNOW CAMS DONT HURT.BUT I DONT KNOW WHAT ONE TO START WITH?

Dynamite69 · 11-15-1999, 12:59 AM

Dont fall into the trap of thinking something wont "hurt" -- anything used improperly can hurt... I would say that if you had to choose, to choose cams- but Id also port/polish the heads and intake as well, and definitely add the normal variety of bolt-ons such as headers, pullies, etc.
The reason I say go for cams is because you could always add N2O or a blower later, and the benefits would be much greater. Ive also heard of a few too many 'grenaded' 4.6 motors that used N2O.

My $.02
Steve

Disney Lincoln · 11-15-1999, 01:42 AM

Oh horse hockey!! I ran nitrous on the same motor for 6 years without a hitch and would still be running today had I not pulled it to put in a new motor. theres no tellin how many bottle went through that thing. Nothing special either just a stock cast piston motor. I would install a high volume fuel pump, And an MSD window switch and bottle the hell out of it, with no worries in the world. Main thing is to not over-rev it or get it into detonation. the cams can come later with a full build up as right now I just think they would hurt you.

Dynamite69 · 11-15-1999, 03:27 AM

I never said N2O was a bad idea, just that Ive heard a few too many horror stories of nitrous on a 4.6L. Personally Id build the motor up so the benefits of N2O or a supercharger would be much greater. But thats my opinion, and you know what they say about those...

Steve

PS: Do you mean you ran N2O on a 4.6L for 6 years or a 5.0? If you ran it on a 4.6 then what kinda car did you run it in?

[This message has been edited by Dynamite69 (edited 11-15-1999).]

88workcar · 11-15-1999, 07:57 AM

I have a bigger cam,I have NOS. Used correct the NOS will not hurt. Get a good ignition box,an a timing control,and a hot coil. This will make the NOS more costly up front but it makes it safe. The cam will not give you nearly as much power and speed,but starts the mods for later on. I would say Save the money and get the heads and intake done, or replaced at the same time as the cam. This keeps you from haveing the car down a secound time, and buying all the gaskets again. Then go for the NOS.

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Jason B Johnson 88LX 206,000 miles
92 stock short block, t7e heads 1.94/
1.60s,4.30s,B-303,long tubes,tremec,
cobra,19lb,race pully,short belt,aulm
drive shaft,homemade ram air,ect,ect,ect
12.98@108.64radials 2.0 60ft
12.64@107.99slicks 171 60ft

cobra9450 · 11-15-1999, 04:33 PM

I used the NOS 5171 kit for a '96 GT AODE. The car bone stock ran 15.3's. After bolting on the nitrous the car immediately ran consistant 13.8's. The only people I know that still make cams for the modulars are Sean Hyland. And at a price of $900 and up I would wait on them until you have all the bolt ons you plan on getting and then get the cam suited to your combination. The problem you may have with your '99 is the returnless fuel system. You may have to check with NOS to see if the kit will still work with your application.

Cobra9450

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http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Show/9763/

'94 Cobra - Bullet MAF, 70mm TB, pulleys, MAC headers, h-pipe, Borla catback, E-303, NOS 5115- 11.93 @ 114.17

cobra9450 · 11-15-1999, 04:33 PM

I used the NOS 5171 kit for a '96 GT AODE. The car bone stock ran 15.3's. After bolting on the nitrous the car immediately ran consistant 13.8's. The only people I know that still make cams for the modulars are Sean Hyland. And at a price of $900 and up I would wait on them until you have all the bolt ons you plan on getting and then get the cam suited to your combination. The problem you may have with your '99 is the returnless fuel system. You may have to check with NOS to see if the kit will still work with your application.

Cobra9450

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http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Show/9763/

'94 Cobra - Bullet MAF, 70mm TB, pulleys, MAC headers, h-pipe, Borla catback, E-303, NOS 5115- 11.93 @ 114.17

cobra9450 · 11-15-1999, 04:34 PM

I used the NOS 5171 kit for a '96 GT AODE. The car bone stock ran 15.3's. After bolting on the nitrous the car immediately ran consistant 13.8's. The only people I know that still make cams for the modulars are Sean Hyland. And at a price of $900 and up I would wait on them until you have all the bolt ons you plan on getting and then get the cam suited to your combination. The problem you may have with your '99 is the returnless fuel system. You may have to check with NOS to see if the kit will still work with your application.

Cobra9450

------------------
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Show/9763/

'94 Cobra - Bullet MAF, 70mm TB, pulleys, MAC headers, h-pipe, Borla catback, E-303, NOS 5115- 11.93 @ 114.17

cobra9450 · 11-15-1999, 04:34 PM

I used the NOS 5171 kit for a '96 GT AODE. The car bone stock ran 15.3's. After bolting on the nitrous the car immediately ran consistant 13.8's. The only people I know that still make cams for the modulars are Sean Hyland. And at a price of $900 and up I would wait on them until you have all the bolt ons you plan on getting and then get the cam suited to your combination. The problem you may have with your '99 is the returnless fuel system. You may have to check with NOS to see if the kit will still work with your application.

Cobra9450

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http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Show/9763/

'94 Cobra - Bullet MAF, 70mm TB, pulleys, MAC headers, h-pipe, Borla catback, E-303, NOS 5115- 11.93 @ 114.17

Danbo · 11-15-1999, 09:07 PM

Nitrous vs Cams. I think it depends
on what you want the car to do. If your into
drag racing than nitrous is great. But not everyone who drives a Mustang
drag races it. Some of us do make turns and
stop(or at least slow down) sometimes.
The nice thing about building the motor
w/o the power adders is it's always "on".
I'd start with the basics...mass air,headers
low restrict cats,rear gears,subframes,etc
Then decide what kinda of racing you wanna do. Don't discount road racing until you try it.

Dan

------------------
'96 Cobra, Steeda G-Trac
Stage III Suspension, K&N
Filter,77mmPro-M,FMS Ceramic
Coated Headers,Bassini-X Pipe,
FMS Aluminum driveshaft,
FMS 3.73's, Cobra R's ,
Firestone SZ-50 275-40x17's,
Powerslot Rotors, Preformance Friction Z rated pads,
Steeda Tir-Ax, Schroth Restraints,
Kuhmo Victoracers(for the track).

11-14-1999, 10:31 PM	#1
99MUSTANGGT Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Carlsbad,Ca,USA Posts: 6	NOS or CAMS WHAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE CAR. I HEARD THAT NOS DOESENT HURT CARS.I KNOW CAMS DONT HURT.BUT I DONT KNOW WHAT ONE TO START WITH?

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11-15-1999, 12:59 AM	#2
Dynamite69 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 12	Dont fall into the trap of thinking something wont "hurt" -- anything used improperly can hurt... I would say that if you had to choose, to choose cams- but Id also port/polish the heads and intake as well, and definitely add the normal variety of bolt-ons such as headers, pullies, etc. The reason I say go for cams is because you could always add N2O or a blower later, and the benefits would be much greater. Ive also heard of a few too many 'grenaded' 4.6 motors that used N2O. My $.02 Steve

11-15-1999, 01:42 AM	#3
Disney Lincoln Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 56	Oh horse hockey!! I ran nitrous on the same motor for 6 years without a hitch and would still be running today had I not pulled it to put in a new motor. theres no tellin how many bottle went through that thing. Nothing special either just a stock cast piston motor. I would install a high volume fuel pump, And an MSD window switch and bottle the hell out of it, with no worries in the world. Main thing is to not over-rev it or get it into detonation. the cams can come later with a full build up as right now I just think they would hurt you.

11-15-1999, 03:27 AM	#4
Dynamite69 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 12	I never said N2O was a bad idea, just that Ive heard a few too many horror stories of nitrous on a 4.6L. Personally Id build the motor up so the benefits of N2O or a supercharger would be much greater. But thats my opinion, and you know what they say about those... Steve PS: Do you mean you ran N2O on a 4.6L for 6 years or a 5.0? If you ran it on a 4.6 then what kinda car did you run it in? [This message has been edited by Dynamite69 (edited 11-15-1999).]

11-15-1999, 07:57 AM	#5
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	I have a bigger cam,I have NOS. Used correct the NOS will not hurt. Get a good ignition box,an a timing control,and a hot coil. This will make the NOS more costly up front but it makes it safe. The cam will not give you nearly as much power and speed,but starts the mods for later on. I would say Save the money and get the heads and intake done, or replaced at the same time as the cam. This keeps you from haveing the car down a secound time, and buying all the gaskets again. Then go for the NOS. ------------------ Jason B Johnson 88LX 206,000 miles 92 stock short block, t7e heads 1.94/ 1.60s,4.30s,B-303,long tubes,tremec, cobra,19lb,race pully,short belt,aulm drive shaft,homemade ram air,ect,ect,ect 12.98@108.64radials 2.0 60ft 12.64@107.99slicks 171 60ft

11-15-1999, 04:33 PM	#6
cobra9450 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Ewa Beach, HI Posts: 198	I used the NOS 5171 kit for a '96 GT AODE. The car bone stock ran 15.3's. After bolting on the nitrous the car immediately ran consistant 13.8's. The only people I know that still make cams for the modulars are Sean Hyland. And at a price of $900 and up I would wait on them until you have all the bolt ons you plan on getting and then get the cam suited to your combination. The problem you may have with your '99 is the returnless fuel system. You may have to check with NOS to see if the kit will still work with your application. Cobra9450 ------------------ http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Show/9763/ '94 Cobra - Bullet MAF, 70mm TB, pulleys, MAC headers, h-pipe, Borla catback, E-303, NOS 5115- 11.93 @ 114.17

11-15-1999, 04:34 PM	#8
cobra9450 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Ewa Beach, HI Posts: 198	I used the NOS 5171 kit for a '96 GT AODE. The car bone stock ran 15.3's. After bolting on the nitrous the car immediately ran consistant 13.8's. The only people I know that still make cams for the modulars are Sean Hyland. And at a price of $900 and up I would wait on them until you have all the bolt ons you plan on getting and then get the cam suited to your combination. The problem you may have with your '99 is the returnless fuel system. You may have to check with NOS to see if the kit will still work with your application. Cobra9450 ------------------ http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Show/9763/ '94 Cobra - Bullet MAF, 70mm TB, pulleys, MAC headers, h-pipe, Borla catback, E-303, NOS 5115- 11.93 @ 114.17

11-15-1999, 09:07 PM	#10
Danbo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: baltimore Posts: 99	Nitrous vs Cams. I think it depends on what you want the car to do. If your into drag racing than nitrous is great. But not everyone who drives a Mustang drag races it. Some of us do make turns and stop(or at least slow down) sometimes. The nice thing about building the motor w/o the power adders is it's always "on". I'd start with the basics...mass air,headers low restrict cats,rear gears,subframes,etc Then decide what kinda of racing you wanna do. Don't discount road racing until you try it. Dan ------------------ '96 Cobra, Steeda G-Trac Stage III Suspension, K&N Filter,77mmPro-M,FMS Ceramic Coated Headers,Bassini-X Pipe, FMS Aluminum driveshaft, FMS 3.73's, Cobra R's , Firestone SZ-50 275-40x17's, Powerslot Rotors, Preformance Friction Z rated pads, Steeda Tir-Ax, Schroth Restraints, Kuhmo Victoracers(for the track).