Whats the STOCK 99-01 GT run?

fastang · 10-19-2000, 12:08 PM

Big debate in Street Racers Corner. Im consulting all of the people who own mod mustangs. Thanks

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95GT K&N, off road pipes, ADS chip, pulleys, msd coil,fat wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch

cravnpup · 10-19-2000, 01:58 PM

I've seen times between 13.8-14.6 @ 102-96 mph...

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2000 GT Conv. 5speed
Triple Black
Current Mods: K&N, Mobile 1, MagnaPack Cat-Back, Steeda Tri-Ax
ET: 14.26@98.9
Upcoming Mods: BBK Longtubes, BBK H-pipe w/cats, and much much more

Hammer · 10-19-2000, 05:32 PM

14.0 with a good driver....

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"The Yellowjacket"
1998 Mustang GT
13.97@103
"Traction Impaired" or "Nitto Needy"

cobrayankee · 10-19-2000, 05:58 PM

14.0 -14.2 with a good launch

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1997 Cobra, C+L 80mm MAF, Pro 5.0 shifter, BBK Springs, Taylor Wires, 2 Chamber Flows, ASP Pulleys, MAC off road H pipe.

fastang · 10-19-2000, 07:26 PM

I totaly agree with Cobrayankee, I have never seen one hit a 13, but people are saying that they run 13.69 I have beat 2 of them and my car runs a low 14 maybe a high 13 with good traction. The ******* cobra has 60 more horses and barely runs a 13.6 stock.

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95GT K&N, off road pipes, ADS chip, pulleys, msd coil,fat wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch

Mustang92 · 10-20-2000, 07:03 AM

14.02@96.91 with a 2.17 short time in 70* weather last January. Bone stock, paper filter, silencer, stock rubber, spare tire and jack included. 3580lb race weight with driver, 1000 miles on the motor.

Best time slip is in my sig but the car is good for a 13.2x's once I figure out why it's shutting off 40ft shy of the traps.

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00 GT, K&N, MAC Tree Killer, Pullies, 4.10’s, 2 chamber Flowmasters, UPR shifter, Weld Pro Stars, Nitto DR’s 13.35@100.02 (1.88 60ft)
88 LX coupe X-FHP, 12pt Cage, UPR K-member, 31 spline rear, full spool, more to come

Ripper · 10-20-2000, 10:43 AM

I don't have any times for mine but I agree with the previous posts, 13.8 - 14.6. I have personally seen some run 13.9s at the track. Although the Cobra is claimed to have 320hp stock, I think those estimates are a little bit high (close), even with the fix. A new GT dynoed at 273.6 (publication?). That's a good deal more than the claimed 260hp from Ford. Plus the Cobra, I believe, is hindered by the IRS. Then throw in different drivers and conditions that create discrepancies. Everything is not apples to apples when making comparisons. IMHO a Cobra with 320hp should run in the low 13s but Ford obviously didn't get the car right.

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1999 GT - Laser Red
K&N, Steeda pulleys, & Steeda strut tower brace
(Upcoming mods: subframes (bought), Bassani X, & FMS 3.73s

97snakedriver · 10-20-2000, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ripper:
A new GT dynoed at 273.6 (publication?). That's a good deal more than the claimed 260hp from Ford.

Stock, I don't think so. Most I've seen go about 225-230 rwhp (between about 260 and 265 bhp). Some go as high 235 rwhp (about 270 bhp) but 273.6 rwhp is about 315 bhp. The new GTs are deffently strong runners, but Ford isn't 55 hp off.

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Plus the Cobra, I believe, is hindered by the IRS.

True. Supositly wheel hop is a real pain, and they tend to break a lot under servere use (slicks). I haven't had the pleasure to drive one, but I've read the Cobra R with its upgraded axles goes a long way in solving the wheel hop problem.

Quote:

IMHO a Cobra with 320hp should run in the low 13s but Ford obviously didn't get the car right.

Where did Bad Dad run off too. I think he was knocking on 12s with some minor mods. They one thing that really holds Cobras back is the stock gearing.

Ripper · 10-20-2000, 02:51 PM

97snakedriver:

You misunderstood me. It's not 273.6 rwhp, it's at the crank. Please reread my post. I by no means think a GT will hang with a Cobra or a Z28 or SS. Based on the claimed 320hp for the Cobra, I just think they should run quicker than what they supposedly do. Some will run a little quicker, some a little slower. That's all, I'm not trying to create a conflict.

Yes, Bad Dad, has some real good numbers from what I remember from his posts. Not sure of his mods. We can always check the Users' Rides section.

97snakedriver · 10-20-2000, 03:05 PM

Okay. I misunderstood. Most of the time when people post refer to hp, they mean rwhp. From what I've seen 273 is pretty reasonable, probably not typical, but reasonable for a 99-00 GT. And I don't think its all that hard for a GT to run with the Zs, the Ses, and the Snakes.

No conflict. You must of been reading some of my posts under "Ford wanta to void my warranty" today, huh?

Ripper · 10-20-2000, 03:45 PM

97snakedriver: I don't post much but I do read a lot. Take it easy.

97snakedriver · 10-20-2000, 10:17 PM

Ripper- Its incredible... (Stops to wipe tear away) that we can both have honest (key word), reasonable opinions and disagree on something, or misunderstand each other... and not call each other names.... Its beautiful...

Honestly 98%(at least) of the contributors to this board are exactly the same way, but I just have to become sarcastic and synical when a few people who seemed hell bent on starting something come a-calling...

EXAM1999 · 10-20-2000, 11:36 PM

The only thing that concerns me about a post like this is the small population of Mod motor owners on this board. If all studies were performed with a sample size this small, we would all be in trouble. The corral.net has a timeslip index that lists 100s of times N/A, blown, & juice which makes for a much better place to get answers. The few people that have seen one or 2 run at a track under one condition at one location is a bit meanigless.

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99 Silver GT
4R70W, Borla Cat Back,
SHM Slotted Rotors, custom 10.5" ProTorque 3200 stall converter, Transgo Shift kit, Redline Synthetic ATF, Cooler, Vortech V2 S-trim, 3.73 gears, 70 mm T/B, Mac Adj. uppers & lowers, ROH ZR6 17X9.5 & 17X8.5 with 285/40 & 255/40 Nittos, BBK(Walbro) 255 pump, Mac Longtube Headers & Cat H , D&D Tubular K-member, Coil-overs, A-arms, MM CC plates, KB Super Subs. Currently running 3.33 pulley at 12-13 psi with AFM powerpipe.
Dyno 7/15/00
358 rwhp @ 5600 rpms

97snakedriver · 10-21-2000, 12:28 AM

True. But that argument cuts both ways. If you have a large sample population (or site) then the crap becomes harder to wade though also.

I post on, and enjoy, the corral also, but I wonder how many useful, informative, posts get drowned out in the noise.

On topics which are in question I believe if you have a few knowledgable people who are willing to have an honest open dialog, it is more productive then having many people, some of which know a lot, some of which know next to nothing, but each expresses a lot.

There are some really, really, bad BBSs that have over 15,000 members. Clubsi for example.

If this is stemming from the entire 97 Cobra vs. 99 GT debate, then look on the corral. Same arguement, more on both sides, maybe more experience and insight on each side, but several times more retoric and just plain crap on each side also.

EXAM1999 · 10-21-2000, 07:03 PM

Damn 97, you almost confused me, but I think I get your point. My problem is, I will not accept information from 5.0 owners regarding the 4.6 because they don't have the experience or understand anything about them. The opinions will greatly differ, but the saying goes, no one knows the car like the owner.

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99 Silver GT
4R70W, Borla Cat Back,
SHM Slotted Rotors, custom 10.5" ProTorque 3200 stall converter, Transgo Shift kit, Redline Synthetic ATF, Cooler, Vortech V2 S-trim, 3.73 gears, 70 mm T/B, Mac Adj. uppers & lowers, ROH ZR6 17X9.5 & 17X8.5 with 285/40 & 255/40 Nittos, BBK(Walbro) 255 pump, Mac Longtube Headers & Cat H , D&D Tubular K-member, Coil-overs, A-arms, MM CC plates, KB Super Subs. Currently running 3.33 pulley at 12-13 psi with AFM powerpipe.
Dyno 7/15/00
358 rwhp @ 5600 rpms

Ares · 10-25-2000, 11:00 PM

I have a 2000 GT 5-speed, mods done are Mac cold air pipe and Mac 2-1/2" catback exhaust, these are only thing I have done to car. I use 275/50-15 Drag T/A's. My best run to date is 13.742@98.46 with a 1.916 60'time. I must admit many people are shocked to see my times at track and so am I sometimes. I do have the time slips to to prove my runs with 3 back to back 13's same day. 13.79, 13.89, 13.74 all launching at 3500rpm with motor cooled off till barely in the normal range(no ice used)

10-19-2000, 12:08 PM	#1
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10-19-2000, 01:58 PM	#2
cravnpup Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Torrington, CT, USA Posts: 145	I've seen times between 13.8-14.6 @ 102-96 mph... ------------------ 2000 GT Conv. 5speed Triple Black Current Mods: K&N, Mobile 1, MagnaPack Cat-Back, Steeda Tri-Ax ET: 14.26@98.9 Upcoming Mods: BBK Longtubes, BBK H-pipe w/cats, and much much more

10-19-2000, 05:32 PM	#3
Hammer AKA "Dr. Evil" Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: South Fork Ranch Posts: 1,721	14.0 with a good driver.... ------------------ "The Yellowjacket" 1998 Mustang GT 13.97@103 "Traction Impaired" or "Nitto Needy"

10-19-2000, 05:58 PM	#4
cobrayankee Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 516	14.0 -14.2 with a good launch ------------------ 1997 Cobra, C+L 80mm MAF, Pro 5.0 shifter, BBK Springs, Taylor Wires, 2 Chamber Flows, ASP Pulleys, MAC off road H pipe.

10-19-2000, 07:26 PM	#5
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	I totaly agree with Cobrayankee, I have never seen one hit a 13, but people are saying that they run 13.69 I have beat 2 of them and my car runs a low 14 maybe a high 13 with good traction. The ******* cobra has 60 more horses and barely runs a 13.6 stock. ------------------ 95GT K&N, off road pipes, ADS chip, pulleys, msd coil,fat wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch

10-20-2000, 07:03 AM	#6
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	14.02@96.91 with a 2.17 short time in 70* weather last January. Bone stock, paper filter, silencer, stock rubber, spare tire and jack included. 3580lb race weight with driver, 1000 miles on the motor. Best time slip is in my sig but the car is good for a 13.2x's once I figure out why it's shutting off 40ft shy of the traps. ------------------ 00 GT, K&N, MAC Tree Killer, Pullies, 4.10’s, 2 chamber Flowmasters, UPR shifter, Weld Pro Stars, Nitto DR’s 13.35@100.02 (1.88 60ft) 88 LX coupe X-FHP, 12pt Cage, UPR K-member, 31 spline rear, full spool, more to come

10-20-2000, 10:43 AM	#7
Ripper Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Danbury, CT, USA Posts: 273	I don't have any times for mine but I agree with the previous posts, 13.8 - 14.6. I have personally seen some run 13.9s at the track. Although the Cobra is claimed to have 320hp stock, I think those estimates are a little bit high (close), even with the fix. A new GT dynoed at 273.6 (publication?). That's a good deal more than the claimed 260hp from Ford. Plus the Cobra, I believe, is hindered by the IRS. Then throw in different drivers and conditions that create discrepancies. Everything is not apples to apples when making comparisons. IMHO a Cobra with 320hp should run in the low 13s but Ford obviously didn't get the car right. ------------------ ************************ 1999 GT - Laser Red K&N, Steeda pulleys, & Steeda strut tower brace (Upcoming mods: subframes (bought), Bassani X, & FMS 3.73s

10-20-2000, 02:51 PM	#9
Ripper Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Danbury, CT, USA Posts: 273	97snakedriver: You misunderstood me. It's not 273.6 rwhp, it's at the crank. Please reread my post. I by no means think a GT will hang with a Cobra or a Z28 or SS. Based on the claimed 320hp for the Cobra, I just think they should run quicker than what they supposedly do. Some will run a little quicker, some a little slower. That's all, I'm not trying to create a conflict. Yes, Bad Dad, has some real good numbers from what I remember from his posts. Not sure of his mods. We can always check the Users' Rides section.

10-20-2000, 03:05 PM	#10
97snakedriver Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,526	Okay. I misunderstood. Most of the time when people post refer to hp, they mean rwhp. From what I've seen 273 is pretty reasonable, probably not typical, but reasonable for a 99-00 GT. And I don't think its all that hard for a GT to run with the Zs, the Ses, and the Snakes. No conflict. You must of been reading some of my posts under "Ford wanta to void my warranty" today, huh?

10-20-2000, 03:45 PM	#11
Ripper Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Danbury, CT, USA Posts: 273	97snakedriver: I don't post much but I do read a lot. Take it easy.

10-20-2000, 10:17 PM	#12
97snakedriver Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,526	Ripper- Its incredible... (Stops to wipe tear away) that we can both have honest (key word), reasonable opinions and disagree on something, or misunderstand each other... and not call each other names.... Its beautiful... Honestly 98%(at least) of the contributors to this board are exactly the same way, but I just have to become sarcastic and synical when a few people who seemed hell bent on starting something come a-calling...

10-20-2000, 11:36 PM	#13
EXAM1999 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Oakdale, NY, US Posts: 50	The only thing that concerns me about a post like this is the small population of Mod motor owners on this board. If all studies were performed with a sample size this small, we would all be in trouble. The corral.net has a timeslip index that lists 100s of times N/A, blown, & juice which makes for a much better place to get answers. The few people that have seen one or 2 run at a track under one condition at one location is a bit meanigless. ------------------ 99 Silver GT 4R70W, Borla Cat Back, SHM Slotted Rotors, custom 10.5" ProTorque 3200 stall converter, Transgo Shift kit, Redline Synthetic ATF, Cooler, Vortech V2 S-trim, 3.73 gears, 70 mm T/B, Mac Adj. uppers & lowers, ROH ZR6 17X9.5 & 17X8.5 with 285/40 & 255/40 Nittos, BBK(Walbro) 255 pump, Mac Longtube Headers & Cat H , D&D Tubular K-member, Coil-overs, A-arms, MM CC plates, KB Super Subs. Currently running 3.33 pulley at 12-13 psi with AFM powerpipe. Dyno 7/15/00 358 rwhp @ 5600 rpms

10-21-2000, 12:28 AM	#14
97snakedriver Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,526	True. But that argument cuts both ways. If you have a large sample population (or site) then the crap becomes harder to wade though also. I post on, and enjoy, the corral also, but I wonder how many useful, informative, posts get drowned out in the noise. On topics which are in question I believe if you have a few knowledgable people who are willing to have an honest open dialog, it is more productive then having many people, some of which know a lot, some of which know next to nothing, but each expresses a lot. There are some really, really, bad BBSs that have over 15,000 members. Clubsi for example. If this is stemming from the entire 97 Cobra vs. 99 GT debate, then look on the corral. Same arguement, more on both sides, maybe more experience and insight on each side, but several times more retoric and just plain crap on each side also.

10-21-2000, 07:03 PM	#15
EXAM1999 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Oakdale, NY, US Posts: 50	Damn 97, you almost confused me, but I think I get your point. My problem is, I will not accept information from 5.0 owners regarding the 4.6 because they don't have the experience or understand anything about them. The opinions will greatly differ, but the saying goes, no one knows the car like the owner. ------------------ 99 Silver GT 4R70W, Borla Cat Back, SHM Slotted Rotors, custom 10.5" ProTorque 3200 stall converter, Transgo Shift kit, Redline Synthetic ATF, Cooler, Vortech V2 S-trim, 3.73 gears, 70 mm T/B, Mac Adj. uppers & lowers, ROH ZR6 17X9.5 & 17X8.5 with 285/40 & 255/40 Nittos, BBK(Walbro) 255 pump, Mac Longtube Headers & Cat H , D&D Tubular K-member, Coil-overs, A-arms, MM CC plates, KB Super Subs. Currently running 3.33 pulley at 12-13 psi with AFM powerpipe. Dyno 7/15/00 358 rwhp @ 5600 rpms

10-25-2000, 11:00 PM	#16
Ares Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Saxonburg, PA, USA Posts: 236	I have a 2000 GT 5-speed, mods done are Mac cold air pipe and Mac 2-1/2" catback exhaust, these are only thing I have done to car. I use 275/50-15 Drag T/A's. My best run to date is 13.742@98.46 with a 1.916 60'time. I must admit many people are shocked to see my times at track and so am I sometimes. I do have the time slips to to prove my runs with 3 back to back 13's same day. 13.79, 13.89, 13.74 all launching at 3500rpm with motor cooled off till barely in the normal range(no ice used)