Should I be worried about Preludes?

Phly6 · 10-12-2003, 04:06 PM

Ok, so i was on my way home from the grocery store and i was at the light waiting for my arrow when this black prelude pulled up next to me blasting his music through a crappy radio with a sub. I hit the gas a little bit just to get away from him when he hits the gas and his car jumps infront of mine. Granted i started off behind him but it took me all the way to fourth to pass him. Should i be worried about Preludes? I have a 2003 gt 5 speed. He didnt have a turbo or supercharger, all i saw was an exaust. he may have had a few internal parts like an intake or something but he didnt have any forced induction, i would have been able to tell i think. Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks

Hammer · 10-12-2003, 08:37 PM

Sorry man...
Don't know much about Preludes and very rarely street race.

Last time I lined up against a 'lude I was in the 450 HP Yellowjacket at a test and tune at Ennis last year.... poor kid never had a chance...

Matt Erich · 10-12-2003, 10:03 PM

you shouldnt be worried my friend has a prelude with every bolt-on and nitrous and only ran a 13.9 on slicks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Later
Matt

Torinalth · 10-12-2003, 10:15 PM

preludes are quick, but heavy too...

the can have a 2.0 vtec based engine, raise the compression ratio, i/h/e, cam, heads, tune, n20 and take down a GT any day of the week... but now... they have around 6k in mods.... 6 grand in engine mods can make anything fast... even a geo.

but in general, unless it has a turbo (and even then it depends) then they will stay a 15 second car.

Torinalth

acidskie · 10-13-2003, 06:04 AM

If a stock prelude is a 15 sec car, Whats a run in a stock 99-03 Gt look like? *average run... not a pros

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Phly6 · 10-13-2003, 02:48 PM

Well, mi a complete newb and i ran a 16.2 my first run cause i missed 2nd, then ran a 15.4 taking my time shifting making sure i hit every gear. But i emphasize the fact that i am a newb, thoes times were the first time i ever went to the track and my car is completly stock. Ive heard theyre capeable of as low as 13.8

The Deuce · 10-13-2003, 02:55 PM

get a pro 5.0 or steeda tri-ax shifter, and hit the track again.

Either one will not only guarantee to speed up the shifts for you, but you won't have to worry about breaking the forks on the transmission either.

If you still have the slips, post the full times (60' etc) somewhere and we can give you some tips on launch, etc.

Jaegermeister2k · 10-13-2003, 05:13 PM

Preludes come with 200hp stock,but only like 150ish tq,but they're not too heawy,only around 3000 pounds.And no i wouldn't be scared of em.

surfbeast · 10-13-2003, 05:23 PM

Never be worried about anyone! Even if they eat your lunch, give it all you got! Never wimp out

Best to do it on the track though!

Torinalth · 10-15-2003, 01:47 AM

i run low 14s on my stock GT... 14.3 and such... just takes practice... and on the streets, never lost to anything without a turbo (the 4 bangers that is)

Torinalth

GTvert · 10-15-2003, 04:24 PM

I ran 14.04 when my convertible was stock, a coupe should be a little quicker from the factory since it is lighter.13.8 is not hard to believe at all. Get a shifter and some gears.If you are going to race from redlights, gears will help you more than anything. Those 3.27s have to go, put in some 4.10s and you will be amazed. Oh yeah, and I still get over 20mpg
on the highway.

Phly6 · 10-16-2003, 01:31 PM

GTvert, u have any ideas about what thats gonna do to my warranty? i.e. is it gonna void it or should it be no problem for me? Also, any idea on costs? thanks.

GTvert · 10-16-2003, 02:18 PM

As far as the gears go, you can get them from several places.I got mine from Dugan Racing.I would deal with larger companies, I have had trouble with some of the smaller ones.The bigger companies don't take forever to send the parts.The gears were around $189 or so. I bought ford motorsport gears and had the ford dealership put them in.Depending on dealer, I would ask before I buy anything.It was about $200 for the install. When you get gears, you have to buy a module to fix your speedo.Steeda has them for like $150 or less.I bought a hypertech programmer and it does the same thing, but has more options and gives you a little hp.I actually felt a difference with it.The programmer is like $350.All together you will have about $750 in the setup if you go the programmer way.It is well worth the money, and a great way to open up the 4.6.

explicitone · 10-16-2003, 10:41 PM

I would not worry about preludes they are not that quick in most cases and if you want more grunt out of your stang I would go with gears as well just like it was said above

tony

if your going to get gears go to www.gefracing.com the gears are 139 and the speedcal is around 99

blue00gt · 10-17-2003, 07:49 PM

Most are pretty slow. My buddy's '99 has a mild turbo on it and I still beat him. You have and instant advantage against any FWD car because they can't launch very hard. On slicks a typical 300hp FWD import still can't even usually hit 2.0 60-fts without LSD.
The generation before my friend's car (not sure of years on Hondas) was probably the quickest stock. I've seen those run decent 14s with only a couple bolt-ons.
Just beat 'em off the line and they don't have a chance.

06Stang · 10-18-2003, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GTvert
As far as the gears go, you can get them from several places.I got mine from Dugan Racing.I would deal with larger companies, I have had trouble with some of the smaller ones.The bigger companies don't take forever to send the parts.The gears were around $189 or so. I bought ford motorsport gears and had the ford dealership put them in.Depending on dealer, I would ask before I buy anything.It was about $200 for the install. When you get gears, you have to buy a module to fix your speedo.Steeda has them for like $150 or less.I bought a hypertech programmer and it does the same thing, but has more options and gives you a little hp.I actually felt a difference with it.The programmer is like $350.All together you will have about $750 in the setup if you go the programmer way.It is well worth the money, and a great way to open up the 4.6.

hey, i was wondering about this too, so you talked to your dealership, let them install the gears and then they allowed you to put the hypertech on it w/o voiding the warranty? Ive heard all kinds of horror stories about people changin gears and gettin a tuner to fix the speedo and when they go in for warranty work, they void the warranty for the chip ie tuner! So your still covered under warranty? I hope so, cause this gives me hope!

explicitone · 10-18-2003, 04:27 AM

if you a have a 5- speed all you need is a speed cal but if you a have a auto then you would need a chip,hypertech pp3,superchips tuner or a diablo predator

Phly6 · 10-19-2003, 09:48 PM

i've got a 5 speed, and i am seriously considering getting gears so thats why im asking about every little thing, im not trying to ber annoying or anything. What exactly is the speed cal? what does it do and where can i get it from?
thanks

Hammer · 10-19-2003, 09:58 PM

Speedcal...

Here: http://www.dallasmustang.com/index.mvc?prod=9910

Phly6 · 10-19-2003, 10:01 PM

ok so around 300 minus labor for gears, what kind of a diffrence can i expect?

10-12-2003, 04:06 PM	#1
Phly6 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 43	Should I be worried about Preludes? Ok, so i was on my way home from the grocery store and i was at the light waiting for my arrow when this black prelude pulled up next to me blasting his music through a crappy radio with a sub. I hit the gas a little bit just to get away from him when he hits the gas and his car jumps infront of mine. Granted i started off behind him but it took me all the way to fourth to pass him. Should i be worried about Preludes? I have a 2003 gt 5 speed. He didnt have a turbo or supercharger, all i saw was an exaust. he may have had a few internal parts like an intake or something but he didnt have any forced induction, i would have been able to tell i think. Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks

10-12-2003, 08:37 PM	#2
Hammer AKA "Dr. Evil" Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: South Fork Ranch Posts: 1,721	Sorry man... Don't know much about Preludes and very rarely street race. Last time I lined up against a 'lude I was in the 450 HP Yellowjacket at a test and tune at Ennis last year.... poor kid never had a chance... __________________ Uncle Sam "What the hell is up with all the gauges? Calling Captain Kirk, your ride awaits... Phasers on stun...." Last edited by Hammer; 10-12-2003 at 10:16 PM..

10-12-2003, 10:15 PM	#4
Torinalth Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chapel Hill, NC - USA Posts: 188	preludes are quick, but heavy too... the can have a 2.0 vtec based engine, raise the compression ratio, i/h/e, cam, heads, tune, n20 and take down a GT any day of the week... but now... they have around 6k in mods.... 6 grand in engine mods can make anything fast... even a geo. but in general, unless it has a turbo (and even then it depends) then they will stay a 15 second car. Torinalth __________________ When you finally shut down the car, just sit back and remember the run.... win or lose, you know it was a surge of adreneline

10-13-2003, 02:55 PM	#7
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	get a pro 5.0 or steeda tri-ax shifter, and hit the track again. Either one will not only guarantee to speed up the shifts for you, but you won't have to worry about breaking the forks on the transmission either. If you still have the slips, post the full times (60' etc) somewhere and we can give you some tips on launch, etc. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

10-13-2003, 05:23 PM	#9
surfbeast Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Maryville,TN Posts: 415	Never be worried about anyone! Even if they eat your lunch, give it all you got! Never wimp out Best to do it on the track though! __________________ 98 GT / convertable -98 Saleen engine, Saleen appearance pkg. SHM cams,P&P NPI heads, and so much more!

10-12-2003, 10:03 PM	#3
Matt Erich Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 24	you shouldnt be worried my friend has a prelude with every bolt-on and nitrous and only ran a 13.9 on slicks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Later Matt

10-13-2003, 06:04 AM	#5
acidskie Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 47	If a stock prelude is a 15 sec car, Whats a run in a stock 99-03 Gt look like? average run... not a pros

10-13-2003, 02:48 PM	#6
Phly6 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 43	Well, mi a complete newb and i ran a 16.2 my first run cause i missed 2nd, then ran a 15.4 taking my time shifting making sure i hit every gear. But i emphasize the fact that i am a newb, thoes times were the first time i ever went to the track and my car is completly stock. Ive heard theyre capeable of as low as 13.8

10-13-2003, 05:13 PM	#8
Jaegermeister2k Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brandon,Fl Posts: 163	Preludes come with 200hp stock,but only like 150ish tq,but they're not too heawy,only around 3000 pounds.And no i wouldn't be scared of em.

10-15-2003, 01:47 AM	#10
Torinalth Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chapel Hill, NC - USA Posts: 188	i run low 14s on my stock GT... 14.3 and such... just takes practice... and on the streets, never lost to anything without a turbo (the 4 bangers that is) Torinalth __________________ When you finally shut down the car, just sit back and remember the run.... win or lose, you know it was a surge of adreneline

10-15-2003, 04:24 PM	#11
GTvert Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West Plains Posts: 74	I ran 14.04 when my convertible was stock, a coupe should be a little quicker from the factory since it is lighter.13.8 is not hard to believe at all. Get a shifter and some gears.If you are going to race from redlights, gears will help you more than anything. Those 3.27s have to go, put in some 4.10s and you will be amazed. Oh yeah, and I still get over 20mpg on the highway. __________________ Slower Traffic Keep Right

10-16-2003, 01:31 PM	#12
Phly6 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 43	GTvert, u have any ideas about what thats gonna do to my warranty? i.e. is it gonna void it or should it be no problem for me? Also, any idea on costs? thanks.

10-16-2003, 02:18 PM	#13
GTvert Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West Plains Posts: 74	As far as the gears go, you can get them from several places.I got mine from Dugan Racing.I would deal with larger companies, I have had trouble with some of the smaller ones.The bigger companies don't take forever to send the parts.The gears were around $189 or so. I bought ford motorsport gears and had the ford dealership put them in.Depending on dealer, I would ask before I buy anything.It was about $200 for the install. When you get gears, you have to buy a module to fix your speedo.Steeda has them for like $150 or less.I bought a hypertech programmer and it does the same thing, but has more options and gives you a little hp.I actually felt a difference with it.The programmer is like $350.All together you will have about $750 in the setup if you go the programmer way.It is well worth the money, and a great way to open up the 4.6. __________________ Slower Traffic Keep Right

10-16-2003, 10:41 PM	#14
explicitone Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: racine ,wi Posts: 691	I would not worry about preludes they are not that quick in most cases and if you want more grunt out of your stang I would go with gears as well just like it was said above tony if your going to get gears go to www.gefracing.com the gears are 139 and the speedcal is around 99 __________________ RUN IT STAIGHT AND RUN IT HARD ________ Novi 2000 60' 1.46 1/4 10.67 mph 126.5 _________

10-17-2003, 07:49 PM	#15
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	Most are pretty slow. My buddy's '99 has a mild turbo on it and I still beat him. You have and instant advantage against any FWD car because they can't launch very hard. On slicks a typical 300hp FWD import still can't even usually hit 2.0 60-fts without LSD. The generation before my friend's car (not sure of years on Hondas) was probably the quickest stock. I've seen those run decent 14s with only a couple bolt-ons. Just beat 'em off the line and they don't have a chance. __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

10-18-2003, 04:27 AM	#17
explicitone Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: racine ,wi Posts: 691	if you a have a 5- speed all you need is a speed cal but if you a have a auto then you would need a chip,hypertech pp3,superchips tuner or a diablo predator __________________ RUN IT STAIGHT AND RUN IT HARD ________ Novi 2000 60' 1.46 1/4 10.67 mph 126.5 _________

10-19-2003, 09:48 PM	#18
Phly6 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 43	i've got a 5 speed, and i am seriously considering getting gears so thats why im asking about every little thing, im not trying to ber annoying or anything. What exactly is the speed cal? what does it do and where can i get it from? thanks

10-19-2003, 09:58 PM	#19
Hammer AKA "Dr. Evil" Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: South Fork Ranch Posts: 1,721	Speedcal... Here: http://www.dallasmustang.com/index.mvc?prod=9910 __________________ Uncle Sam "What the hell is up with all the gauges? Calling Captain Kirk, your ride awaits... Phasers on stun...."

10-19-2003, 10:01 PM	#20
Phly6 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 43	ok so around 300 minus labor for gears, what kind of a diffrence can i expect?

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