Ford wanta to void my warranty

1redGT · 10-16-2000, 10:24 AM

Blown motor with 4200 miles on it. Dealer wants to void my warranty. Claims because excessive rubber in the wheel well and autolight plugs and sub frame connectors, that this car was not a street driven car. They say it was used for racing only... WTF
What do I do now??

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paver one · 10-16-2000, 11:12 AM

Get a lawyer or contact another dealer. They are making assumptions that are not proven and never will be. Autolite plugs and sub frame connectors are not warranty voiding material....Neither is "excessive" rubber in the wheel wells. That is a judgement call they cannot make...........

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cobrayankee · 10-16-2000, 04:35 PM

My buddy had the same problem with his Ranger. It only had 8,000 miles on it when he turned it in. To make a long story short, they accused him of 4 wheeling because of excess mud, larger tires, and a wench. He got a lawyer and won.

97snakedriver · 10-16-2000, 06:44 PM

because excessive rubber in the wheel well and autolight plugs and sub frame connectors
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Spark Plugs? That's a new one on me. Since when is keeping your car tuned up grounds for voided a warenty.

The other stuff is junk too. US Federal Law: The presence of after-market parts do not void a warente, unless the dealer can demonstrate the aftermarket parts directly caused the problem. They would have a hard time explaning how quality replacement spark plugs would cause an engine to blow. Subframe connectors... Yeah right. Rubber... Yeah right.

Find another dealer, or file for arbitration.

95GTS · 10-16-2000, 09:26 PM

Ditto on all the above. As well as go and have a chat with the owner of the dealership. Tell him what's going on and you might just mention a lawyer while your talking with him.

The owner will most likely side with you even without the mention of the lawyer. If he doesn't then mention your lawyer should be contacting him soon.

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FOR SALE: 1996 Mustang GTS: 5-speed, K&N, removed air silencer, 3.73s, 48,000 miles. $11,500

StangFlyer · 10-17-2000, 12:36 AM

You need to read this article at Alternative Auto's Site

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Dan McClain, Editor
The Mustang Works Magazine
1991 Mustang GT - NOVI Supercharged 377 Stroker
1999 Ford Lightning SVT - Supercharged 5.4L Triton

97snakedriver · 10-17-2000, 01:05 AM

Good artical.

I'll just point out that in May I had a nice fight with an insurance company. Legally I was right, hands down, and they were wrong. Eventually I won, but it took some time, I had to front $3500, then fight for it tooth and nail with the free services of a lawyer (He's my father). But, just be warned: Just because they (insurance companies, car dealerships, who-ever) are legally obligated to do something, it doesn't mean that they will, and it may mean you have to go though a lot of crap to get it done.

Fortantly, there are lots of Ford dealerships you can call or go to.

bdidell · 10-17-2000, 07:27 PM

He's not telling you the whole story. Had a S/C on the car, blew the engine and wants Ford to pay. Ford made the right decision in voiding his warranty.

There's a post on the Corral explaining what happened.

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2000 Performance Red GT
WMS Velocity Tube
MAC 73.66 TB (on the way)
Bassani X (with cats)
Steeda U/D Pullies

smooth · 10-17-2000, 07:57 PM

if he took all the time to take off the blower then TS for ford.. blower? what blower?

bdidell · 10-17-2000, 09:40 PM

There's always tall tale signs of a blower that WAS on a car. New spark pugs at 4200 miles??? That's almost a dead give away of something that ain't right.

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2000 Performance Red GT
WMS Velocity Tube
MAC 73.66 TB (on the way)
Bassani X (with cats)
Steeda U/D Pullies

[This message has been edited by bdidell (edited 10-18-2000).]

97snakedriver · 10-17-2000, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by smooth:
if he took all the time to take off the blower then TS for ford.. blower? what blower?

Oh, that's a different story. The engine blows up -> because it leaned out -> because it had a blower and was off on the tuning.

Don't think you'll win that one.

MOORESTANGS · 10-18-2000, 01:38 AM

1-REDGT, you should change your user name to 1-BLOWNUP-GT, with an IDIOT driver. If you put a blower on your new car, and fry it , you can't go crying to MOMMY! Dude grow up, everyone is on to your bullsh*t story, you left out some very important details, and you want us to take your side-----not happining here dude!!!!!!!!!!!!

bdidell · 10-18-2000, 03:49 AM

Here's the link to his post on Corral. Or do a search on 1redgt and read about some of his other bad luck.
http://www.corral.net/Forums/Forum2/HTML/020048.html

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2000 Performance Red GT
WMS Velocity Tube
MAC 73.66 TB (on the way)
Bassani X (with cats)
Steeda U/D Pullies

Ripper · 10-18-2000, 11:03 AM

This idiot has been torn a new a$$hole on every site he's posted on. Loser!

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1999 GT - Laser Red
K&N, Steeda pulleys, & Steeda strut tower brace
(Upcoming mods: subframes (bought), Bassani X, & FMS 3.73s

mustang17 · 10-18-2000, 11:40 PM

Many of the people who post here also post other places, like Corral, so the BS doesn't work here either. Why even bother to post? It's your fault not Ford's.

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1995 GT Black sleeper
Edelbrock aluminum heads,Edelbrock aluminum intake,Edelbrock cam, 70mm TB,75mm pro-m mass air,Taylor wires, Underdrive pulleys,Equal length headers,K&N filter
Flowmaster cat-back, Eibach pro rate springs
lower control arms
3.73 rear gear New: Centerforce clutch,plan to remove a/c

cobrayankee · 10-19-2000, 01:10 PM

If all this is true, what was the point in posting? Can't pay for an engine with sympathy man. Gotta roll with the punches.

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1997 Cobra, C+L 80mm MAF, Pro 5.0 shifter, BBK Springs, Taylor Wires, 2 Chamber Flows, ASP Pulleys, MAC off road H pipe.

1redGT · 10-20-2000, 08:13 AM

Yo Jag Offs, my point was that they just did a once over on the car and saw some mods and they weren't even willing to diagnose the problem to figure out if it was a defect or not. I didn't expect them to pay for something that was my fault you a-holes. Give me 3 weeks and come to Atlanta, I'll show you 1blownGT D**k Wads. Blown pushing about 450-500 HP. Ha, ha, ha.....

Ripper · 10-20-2000, 10:26 AM

At least you're responses are consistent you little dick head. Now run along and go play with your matchbox cars you little f*cking baby. Make sure you ask daddy for a new engine for Christmas.

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1999 GT - Laser Red
K&N, Steeda pulleys, & Steeda strut tower brace
(Upcoming mods: subframes (bought), Bassani X, & FMS 3.73s

1redGT · 10-20-2000, 10:36 AM

Ripper, nice stock ride. Maybe when you get older you can play with the big boys. My Daddy is already tearing down the motor as I write this...new dished pistons, rods, balanced forged steel crank. SWEET I'll blow 12-14 psi in there and rip rippper a new bunghole. While your still at the tree, I'll be thru the traps....ha, ha. Dude you only wish you had the problem of too much POWER!!!!! you just stick to passing your girlfriend's car off as yours.

97snakedriver · 10-20-2000, 11:53 AM

1redGT-
If you want to talk about your impending engine build up, this is the place.

This forum has a fairly narrow focus for a reason. If you want to go fight, or argue who's dad can beat up whose, or whatever, do it though email. Or preferably, not at all.

[This message has been edited by 97snakedriver (edited 10-20-2000).]

10-16-2000, 10:24 AM	#1
1redGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 8	Ford wanta to void my warranty Blown motor with 4200 miles on it. Dealer wants to void my warranty. Claims because excessive rubber in the wheel well and autolight plugs and sub frame connectors, that this car was not a street driven car. They say it was used for racing only... WTF What do I do now?? ------------------

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10-16-2000, 11:12 AM	#2
paver one Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Ogden Utah Posts: 58	Get a lawyer or contact another dealer. They are making assumptions that are not proven and never will be. Autolite plugs and sub frame connectors are not warranty voiding material....Neither is "excessive" rubber in the wheel wells. That is a judgement call they cannot make........... ------------------

10-16-2000, 04:35 PM	#3
cobrayankee Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 516	My buddy had the same problem with his Ranger. It only had 8,000 miles on it when he turned it in. To make a long story short, they accused him of 4 wheeling because of excess mud, larger tires, and a wench. He got a lawyer and won.

10-16-2000, 06:44 PM	#4
97snakedriver Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,526	because excessive rubber in the wheel well and autolight plugs and sub frame connectors ------- Spark Plugs? That's a new one on me. Since when is keeping your car tuned up grounds for voided a warenty. The other stuff is junk too. US Federal Law: The presence of after-market parts do not void a warente, unless the dealer can demonstrate the aftermarket parts directly caused the problem. They would have a hard time explaning how quality replacement spark plugs would cause an engine to blow. Subframe connectors... Yeah right. Rubber... Yeah right. Find another dealer, or file for arbitration.

10-16-2000, 09:26 PM	#5
95GTS Git jiggy Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: MO USA Posts: 865	Ditto on all the above. As well as go and have a chat with the owner of the dealership. Tell him what's going on and you might just mention a lawyer while your talking with him. The owner will most likely side with you even without the mention of the lawyer. If he doesn't then mention your lawyer should be contacting him soon. ------------------ FOR SALE: 1996 Mustang GTS: 5-speed, K&N, removed air silencer, 3.73s, 48,000 miles. $11,500

10-17-2000, 12:36 AM	#6
StangFlyer Founder Join Date: Jun 1995 Location: Michigan Posts: 19,326	You need to read this article at Alternative Auto's Site ------------------ Dan McClain, Editor The Mustang Works Magazine 1991 Mustang GT - NOVI Supercharged 377 Stroker 1999 Ford Lightning SVT - Supercharged 5.4L Triton

10-17-2000, 01:05 AM	#7
97snakedriver Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,526	Good artical. I'll just point out that in May I had a nice fight with an insurance company. Legally I was right, hands down, and they were wrong. Eventually I won, but it took some time, I had to front $3500, then fight for it tooth and nail with the free services of a lawyer (He's my father). But, just be warned: Just because they (insurance companies, car dealerships, who-ever) are legally obligated to do something, it doesn't mean that they will, and it may mean you have to go though a lot of crap to get it done. Fortantly, there are lots of Ford dealerships you can call or go to.

10-17-2000, 07:27 PM	#8
bdidell Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3	He's not telling you the whole story. Had a S/C on the car, blew the engine and wants Ford to pay. Ford made the right decision in voiding his warranty. There's a post on the Corral explaining what happened. ------------------ 2000 Performance Red GT WMS Velocity Tube MAC 73.66 TB (on the way) Bassani X (with cats) Steeda U/D Pullies

10-17-2000, 07:57 PM	#9
smooth Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: illinois, USA Posts: 649	if he took all the time to take off the blower then TS for ford.. blower? what blower?

10-17-2000, 09:40 PM	#10
bdidell Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3	There's always tall tale signs of a blower that WAS on a car. New spark pugs at 4200 miles??? That's almost a dead give away of something that ain't right. ------------------ 2000 Performance Red GT WMS Velocity Tube MAC 73.66 TB (on the way) Bassani X (with cats) Steeda U/D Pullies [This message has been edited by bdidell (edited 10-18-2000).]

10-18-2000, 01:38 AM	#12
MOORESTANGS Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Grove City, OH. Posts: 23	1-REDGT, you should change your user name to 1-BLOWNUP-GT, with an IDIOT driver. If you put a blower on your new car, and fry it , you can't go crying to MOMMY! Dude grow up, everyone is on to your bullsh*t story, you left out some very important details, and you want us to take your side-----not happining here dude!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-18-2000, 03:49 AM	#13
bdidell Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3	Here's the link to his post on Corral. Or do a search on 1redgt and read about some of his other bad luck. http://www.corral.net/Forums/Forum2/HTML/020048.html ------------------ 2000 Performance Red GT WMS Velocity Tube MAC 73.66 TB (on the way) Bassani X (with cats) Steeda U/D Pullies

10-18-2000, 11:03 AM	#14
Ripper Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Danbury, CT, USA Posts: 273	This idiot has been torn a new a$$hole on every site he's posted on. Loser! ------------------ ************************ 1999 GT - Laser Red K&N, Steeda pulleys, & Steeda strut tower brace (Upcoming mods: subframes (bought), Bassani X, & FMS 3.73s

10-18-2000, 11:40 PM	#15
mustang17 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Concord, MA, USA Posts: 264	Many of the people who post here also post other places, like Corral, so the BS doesn't work here either. Why even bother to post? It's your fault not Ford's. ------------------ 1995 GT Black sleeper Edelbrock aluminum heads,Edelbrock aluminum intake,Edelbrock cam, 70mm TB,75mm pro-m mass air,Taylor wires, Underdrive pulleys,Equal length headers,K&N filter Flowmaster cat-back, Eibach pro rate springs lower control arms 3.73 rear gear New: Centerforce clutch,plan to remove a/c

10-19-2000, 01:10 PM	#16
cobrayankee Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 516	If all this is true, what was the point in posting? Can't pay for an engine with sympathy man. Gotta roll with the punches. ------------------ 1997 Cobra, C+L 80mm MAF, Pro 5.0 shifter, BBK Springs, Taylor Wires, 2 Chamber Flows, ASP Pulleys, MAC off road H pipe.

10-20-2000, 08:13 AM	#17
1redGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 8	Yo Jag Offs, my point was that they just did a once over on the car and saw some mods and they weren't even willing to diagnose the problem to figure out if it was a defect or not. I didn't expect them to pay for something that was my fault you a-holes. Give me 3 weeks and come to Atlanta, I'll show you 1blownGT D**k Wads. Blown pushing about 450-500 HP. Ha, ha, ha.....

10-20-2000, 10:26 AM	#18
Ripper Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Danbury, CT, USA Posts: 273	At least you're responses are consistent you little dick head. Now run along and go play with your matchbox cars you little fcking baby. Make sure you ask daddy for a new engine for Christmas. ------------------ *********************** 1999 GT - Laser Red K&N, Steeda pulleys, & Steeda strut tower brace (Upcoming mods: subframes (bought), Bassani X, & FMS 3.73s

10-20-2000, 10:36 AM	#19
1redGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 8	Ripper, nice stock ride. Maybe when you get older you can play with the big boys. My Daddy is already tearing down the motor as I write this...new dished pistons, rods, balanced forged steel crank. SWEET I'll blow 12-14 psi in there and rip rippper a new bunghole. While your still at the tree, I'll be thru the traps....ha, ha. Dude you only wish you had the problem of too much POWER!!!!! you just stick to passing your girlfriend's car off as yours.

10-20-2000, 11:53 AM	#20
97snakedriver Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 1,526	1redGT- If you want to talk about your impending engine build up, this is the place. This forum has a fairly narrow focus for a reason. If you want to go fight, or argue who's dad can beat up whose, or whatever, do it though email. Or preferably, not at all. [This message has been edited by 97snakedriver (edited 10-20-2000).]