Air silencer removal mod..questions

MineralGray02K · 07-20-2002, 01:42 PM

Wouldn't doing this mod open up a space inbetween the fenderwall and the filter causing the filter to suck in some hot air? Is this mod really worth doing or will it suck in some hot air?

StoplightWarrior · 07-20-2002, 05:31 PM

Just leave it in until you order the C&L 80mm Kit. There is no proof that the silencer mod works, and even so, you might see 2hp...just leave it for now......order the C&L!!!!

Red Mustang Gt 46 · 07-20-2002, 05:34 PM

Since your moving about 70% of the time, engine compartment heat probably would'nt affect performance. Before my C&L 80mm, I modified the air silencer by cutting some of the end off to enlarge the hole, I then placed a 4" pvc pipe in it - to extend into the fenderwell, never had any problems and it revved RPM's a little quicker.

Try it, you can always put it back in (non-modified).

MineralGray02K · 07-20-2002, 06:53 PM

Sorry for my ignorance, i'm still a little new to the mustang world...What is a C & L??

gilmoujr · 07-20-2002, 08:01 PM

One thing to remember - the '02 requires the 85mm mass air kit not the 80mm as outlined above. It'll save you a few days having to return and receive the right one.

Red Mustang Gt 46 · 07-20-2002, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MineralGray02K
Sorry for my ignorance, i'm still a little new to the mustang world...What is a C & L??

www.cnlperformance.com

Crazy Horse GT · 07-20-2002, 10:03 PM

i put a drag racincing k&n on mine , put the stock air nozzle back in the fender, cut off all the small end, added some bigger hose to that, got better preformance & sound, btw i pulled my rubber snorkle up to my k&n, worked for me?

MineralGray02K · 07-21-2002, 01:23 PM

okay i just took out my air silencer and the intake is like 100 times louder, especially above 3000 rpm's. I didn't have a chance to buy the K & N filter yet, but it definatly feels peppier. I will hopefully buy the filter today or this week...Thank you all for the help!

SteveGT · 07-21-2002, 04:29 PM

I bought a C&L 80mm MAF kit for my 98 GT. I really didn't notice a difference. I guess it depends on what you have after the kit. I was thinking about hooking up an air scoop underneath the front, like those 89-93 Ram Air kits. The C&L documentation says it will make the car perform worse, but since I didn't notice any performance gain from the C&L, it's worth a shot. Anyone ever hook up a Ram Air kit to a C&L?

The air silencer thing... It's worth a shot. I did it to my car before I got the C&L. It's one of those things that is quick and easy to take out and put back on, so go for it.

MineralGray02K · 07-21-2002, 11:35 PM

Yeah definatly.....So I had time to goto Autozone, which is 30 miles from my house

, and I picked up a K & N drop in for $50, threw it in there in a bout 5 min, and am really happy with it. I took off the silencer, and wow is the intake a ton louder! Especially above 3000 RPM's the thing just roars now. Also when I rev in nuetral you hear the mighty suck! Any other performance mods that won't void warantee?

Red Mustang Gt 46 · 07-22-2002, 07:00 AM

UH-OH, you have the mod virus!

Voiding your warranty really depends on your service dealer (for bolt-ons)...with all my little bolt-ons, my service dealer welcomed me for any problems, not that I had any.

Rule of thumb:
If your going to open the intake side (ex: C&L, throttle body, etc..), open up the exaust also (higfhflow cat pipe, cat back, etc...). You've started at the right point, now work your way back...

4:10 gears would really wake your car up....

Good Luck!

SilverGT02 · 07-22-2002, 03:17 PM

Im a little undecided on which gears....4.10s may really be going overboard for me. I do mostly around town driving, but I do alot of highway driving also...wouldnt 3.73s be the way to go for someone with my driving habits?

Sonics2042 · 07-22-2002, 06:19 PM

My Gear Recomendations:

Moderate:
Auto: 3.73
Manual: 3.55

Aggressive:
Auto: 4.10
Manual: 3.73

Crazy People:
Auto: 4.56
Manual: 4.10

Thanks,
DoranW

MineralGray02K · 07-22-2002, 09:22 PM

Okay good point...thanks.....one more thing though, my car really runs like 10 times as fast and better when the engine is still cold. Noticably a bigger power gain when it's cold. What should I do? Also, when I pop the hood and the car is running, the engine shakes a tiny bit, is this normal because it's such a huge engine? Thanks

gilmoujr · 07-23-2002, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SteveGT
The C&L documentation says it will make the car perform worse, but since I didn't notice any performance gain from the C&L, it's worth a shot. Anyone ever hook up a Ram Air kit to a C&L?

Actually, I took out my headlight to get a taste of Ram Air before buying (I already had the C&L installed). It worked great - despite what C&L says - it may be that there was just more cold air that way - I dunno. I went to Lowe's last night and bought a Ram Air kit (rather the parts to make one). It costs about 20 bucks. When I am done I will report the results here (and any plans that I may write up after I am done). Another thing to remember with extending the Air Silencer - do not make your add-on hose too long or you will worsen things a bit. Think of it in these terms: A garden hose is slightly larger than your windpipe (some of us). Try breathing through a garden hose one time. It is nearly impossible. The example is extreme but it is the same concept. You do not want too much tube (at least not in this application).

Jim

blackfang · 07-24-2002, 04:14 PM

I just have a K&N FIPK on mine, which is not really worth anything.

Tim Lester · 07-29-2002, 04:15 PM

The stock air box with a K&N replacment filter flows more then a WMS Velocity Tube, Pro-M 87 mm MAF & K&N filter. Heres a web-site that shows CFM with different setups: http://www.shane.roberts.net/cai.htm

02Silver4.6 · 07-30-2002, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sonics2042
My Gear Recomendations:

Moderate:
Auto: 3.73
Manual: 3.55

Aggressive:
Auto: 4.10
Manual: 3.73

Crazy People:
Auto: 4.56
Manual: 4.10

Thanks,
DoranW

Ummmm in my opinion your way off. I have an 02 GT 5 speed with 4.10's, and I love em. According to your chart you would consider me CRAZY....lol

For 99+ GT's 4.10's are great, EVEN FOR DAILY DRIVING!

98SteedaGT · 07-30-2002, 10:26 AM

It's always been my understanding that the Manual should have the lower gear set it in, since most of the time the 5-6spds have a higher OD gear in it. I have 3.73 in mine, and wouldn't go any higher, I still do a lot of highway driving in my car. I know some people in this area that got more perf. from 4.10 4.30 in 5-Spd (Still good highway MPG) than the 3.55/3.73 in the same tranny.

98SteedaGT · 07-30-2002, 10:28 AM

oops.... sorry, that should have been, "I won't go any lower than 3.73"

07-20-2002, 01:42 PM	#1
MineralGray02K Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 75	Air silencer removal mod..questions Wouldn't doing this mod open up a space inbetween the fenderwall and the filter causing the filter to suck in some hot air? Is this mod really worth doing or will it suck in some hot air? __________________ Mustang Write Ups

07-20-2002, 05:31 PM	#2
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	Just leave it in until you order the C&L 80mm Kit. There is no proof that the silencer mod works, and even so, you might see 2hp...just leave it for now......order the C&L!!!! __________________ Black 2000 GT Auto V2-SQ, Full Steeda G-trac Suspension, Baer Brakes, Saleen Body Kit, Corbeau CR1s, Chrome Cobra R's, etc, etc... 341rwhp, 338 torque 1994 Cobra #4343 Bolt on's only... Cofounder of Raccoon Racing

07-20-2002, 05:34 PM	#3
Red Mustang Gt 46 13.3 @ 103 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 253	Since your moving about 70% of the time, engine compartment heat probably would'nt affect performance. Before my C&L 80mm, I modified the air silencer by cutting some of the end off to enlarge the hole, I then placed a 4" pvc pipe in it - to extend into the fenderwell, never had any problems and it revved RPM's a little quicker. Try it, you can always put it back in (non-modified). __________________ Equipment by: Steeda C&L COMP CAMS FRPP MSD Bassani Magnaflow MAC

07-20-2002, 06:53 PM	#4
MineralGray02K Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 75	Sorry for my ignorance, i'm still a little new to the mustang world...What is a C & L?? __________________ Mustang Write Ups

07-20-2002, 10:03 PM	#7
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	i put a drag racincing k&n on mine , put the stock air nozzle back in the fender, cut off all the small end, added some bigger hose to that, got better preformance & sound, btw i pulled my rubber snorkle up to my k&n, worked for me? __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

07-20-2002, 08:01 PM	#5
gilmoujr Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dexter City, Ohio Posts: 60	One thing to remember - the '02 requires the 85mm mass air kit not the 80mm as outlined above. It'll save you a few days having to return and receive the right one.

07-21-2002, 01:23 PM	#8
MineralGray02K Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 75	okay i just took out my air silencer and the intake is like 100 times louder, especially above 3000 rpm's. I didn't have a chance to buy the K & N filter yet, but it definatly feels peppier. I will hopefully buy the filter today or this week...Thank you all for the help! __________________ Mustang Write Ups

07-21-2002, 04:29 PM	#9
SteveGT Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 42	I bought a C&L 80mm MAF kit for my 98 GT. I really didn't notice a difference. I guess it depends on what you have after the kit. I was thinking about hooking up an air scoop underneath the front, like those 89-93 Ram Air kits. The C&L documentation says it will make the car perform worse, but since I didn't notice any performance gain from the C&L, it's worth a shot. Anyone ever hook up a Ram Air kit to a C&L? The air silencer thing... It's worth a shot. I did it to my car before I got the C&L. It's one of those things that is quick and easy to take out and put back on, so go for it.

07-21-2002, 11:35 PM	#10
MineralGray02K Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 75	Yeah definatly.....So I had time to goto Autozone, which is 30 miles from my house , and I picked up a K & N drop in for $50, threw it in there in a bout 5 min, and am really happy with it. I took off the silencer, and wow is the intake a ton louder! Especially above 3000 RPM's the thing just roars now. Also when I rev in nuetral you hear the mighty suck! Any other performance mods that won't void warantee? __________________ Mustang Write Ups

07-22-2002, 07:00 AM	#11
Red Mustang Gt 46 13.3 @ 103 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 253	UH-OH, you have the mod virus! Voiding your warranty really depends on your service dealer (for bolt-ons)...with all my little bolt-ons, my service dealer welcomed me for any problems, not that I had any. Rule of thumb: If your going to open the intake side (ex: C&L, throttle body, etc..), open up the exaust also (higfhflow cat pipe, cat back, etc...). You've started at the right point, now work your way back... 4:10 gears would really wake your car up.... Good Luck! __________________ Equipment by: Steeda C&L COMP CAMS FRPP MSD Bassani Magnaflow MAC

07-22-2002, 03:17 PM	#12
SilverGT02 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 85	Im a little undecided on which gears....4.10s may really be going overboard for me. I do mostly around town driving, but I do alot of highway driving also...wouldnt 3.73s be the way to go for someone with my driving habits? __________________ 2002 GT Convertible Premium pkge, MACH 1000 system Remote Starter, Billet interior dress up kit

07-22-2002, 06:19 PM	#13
Sonics2042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 381	My Gear Recomendations: Moderate: Auto: 3.73 Manual: 3.55 Aggressive: Auto: 4.10 Manual: 3.73 Crazy People: Auto: 4.56 Manual: 4.10 Thanks, DoranW __________________ What I have: 1990 Red Mustang 5.0 LX: [BBK X-Pipe]-[MAC Cat-Back Exhaust] [MAC Cold Air Intake]-[BBK Equal Shorties] [3.55 Gears]-[Cobra Intake Manifold (Upper and Lower] [E-303 Cam]-[Granetelli Mass Air Flow Sensor] [Front and rear sway bars]-[New black carpet and seats.] [Adjustable Fuel Regulator]-[T5 Conversion w/ K. Cobra Clutch/Hurst STS] [Cobra Throttle Body]-[130A Alt. Conversion] Thinking about: Aftermarket Heads! Vortech A-Trim

07-22-2002, 09:22 PM	#14
MineralGray02K Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 75	Okay good point...thanks.....one more thing though, my car really runs like 10 times as fast and better when the engine is still cold. Noticably a bigger power gain when it's cold. What should I do? Also, when I pop the hood and the car is running, the engine shakes a tiny bit, is this normal because it's such a huge engine? Thanks __________________ Mustang Write Ups

07-24-2002, 04:14 PM	#16
blackfang Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 42	I just have a K&N FIPK on mine, which is not really worth anything. __________________ Email: Blackfang@attbi.com 1997 Cobra FRRP 4.30's, Lakewood d/s loop, Steeda Tri-Ax, Mac o/r h pipe, Magnaflows, K&N 2000 Z/28 Ram Air, EGR mod, Lid w/K&N, Flowtech cutout

07-29-2002, 04:15 PM	#17
Tim Lester Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: IL Posts: 32	The stock air box with a K&N replacment filter flows more then a WMS Velocity Tube, Pro-M 87 mm MAF & K&N filter. Heres a web-site that shows CFM with different setups: http://www.shane.roberts.net/cai.htm __________________ 1999 Mustang Cobra Solid Axle w/ 4.56's Magnaflow Cat-Back Dr.Gas O/R X-Pipe JBA 1-5/8ths Shorty Headers Homemade Powerpipe March Pulleys JMS Chip Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Best E.T. w/ parts listed & BFG 275/40/17 D/Rs (10-26-'02; not including JMS Chip)- 12.95 @106.82, 1.79 60FT. Best MPH- 107.43 New Best MPH (4-26-03)- 109.45 316 RWHP/ 309 RWTQ

07-30-2002, 10:26 AM	#19
98SteedaGT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 330	It's always been my understanding that the Manual should have the lower gear set it in, since most of the time the 5-6spds have a higher OD gear in it. I have 3.73 in mine, and wouldn't go any higher, I still do a lot of highway driving in my car. I know some people in this area that got more perf. from 4.10 4.30 in 5-Spd (Still good highway MPG) than the 3.55/3.73 in the same tranny. __________________ // 1998 GT-Steeda Conversion \\ -- Sold // Now own 2001 F-150 SuperCrew 5.4L \\

07-30-2002, 10:28 AM	#20
98SteedaGT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 330	oops.... sorry, that should have been, "I won't go any lower than 3.73" __________________ // 1998 GT-Steeda Conversion \\ -- Sold // Now own 2001 F-150 SuperCrew 5.4L \\

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