17 X 10.5???

miami00gt_spring_ed · 09-06-2002, 07:50 PM

WELL...I GOT MY 4.10'S IN AND I HAVE NO GRIP WHATSOEVER!!!

ANYONE RUNNING 17 X 10.5?? IF SO..WHICH DRAG RADIAL..NITTO 315/35????

Titan · 09-08-2002, 03:37 AM

Here's a thought...lighter on the right pedal...saves gas

miami00gt_spring_ed · 09-08-2002, 11:03 AM

I WOULD LOVE TO BE LIGHTER AND THE THROTTLE...BUT AT THE TRACK IT'S A NO NO ...LOL...WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT 17X10.5 WITH NITTO DRAGS?

Titan · 09-08-2002, 11:20 AM

never used them.

Check out http://reviews.stangnet.com

They review everything, including tires. If your traction is that bad, try getting slicks.

Shelby428cj · 09-08-2002, 11:49 AM

BF Goodrich makes some good steet legal drags too!!!

See Ya,
Karen

chico · 09-08-2002, 04:43 PM

You should grip better with 4.10's compared to 3.73 or 3.27

Titan · 09-08-2002, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chico
You should grip better with 4.10's compared to 3.73 or 3.27

What are you talking about. A gear that steep would rip through the tranny, your rpm's would peak SO much faster. How would taht ever equal MORE traction?

blue00gt · 09-09-2002, 12:51 PM

To tell you the truth I didn't see any improvement in traction when I had 17x10.5 with 315s compared to my 17x9 with 285s now, plus the 10.5" wheel and big tire slow you down on top end. If you already have the 10.5" wheel, then 315 is the right size.
What you need to do is learn how to slip the clutch off the line so you don't break traction.

chico · 09-09-2002, 05:10 PM

Mr Titan freshmen...let me answer you remark with a question? Is it easier to spin tires at dead stop or tires that are moving?

Titan · 09-09-2002, 11:13 PM

Either, depending on how fast you're going. I can be at a stop, put my car in second gear, drop the clutch and leave a hundred foot drag mark, pulling it through third. I can also be going around 15 mph and stomp the gas and the rear end goes which ever way the pavement is sloped (as long as I don't oversteer).

I don't konw what that has to do w/ traction, though. When I had my stock rear end in, I could never spin the tires like I do now...so, back to the original question--how does a steeper gear = more traction if all you do is punch the gas and the tires spin.

And before you come back w/ a smart-*ss remark for that, make sure you read the first two threads again. Miami said "WELL...I GOT MY 4.10'S IN AND I HAVE NO GRIP WHATSOEVER!!!" Now, ask him if his tires spun as much before he swapped his rear-end...

miami00gt_spring_ed · 09-10-2002, 11:05 AM

MY TIRES SPIN LIKE I WAS ON ICE...THEY DIDN'T SPIN ANYWHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS THEY DO NOW WHEN I HAD THE STOCK GEARS..........I"M GETTING 275 DRAG RADIALS TOMORROW AND THE NITROUS EXPRESS 100 SHOT...AND OFF TO THE TRACK TOMORROW NIGHT!!!! WISH ME HAPPY TIMES...LOL..AND I HOPE TO TAKE OUT A FEW CAMAROS AND VETTES....

chico · 09-10-2002, 12:27 PM

Sorry for yanking you chain guys...I wqs curious as to what comments I could pull out of the woodwork...FYI I own a daily driver 98 Cobra convt. pulling 510 rwhp on 91 octane...this iis my 3rd motor and 4th set of gears...of course lower gears will cause additional wheel spin. Its all in the tires, suspension and especially the driver..my last time was 11.02 @126 mph on the 91 octane. My new motor is running CP 8.3 pistons ,14 lbs boost with aftclr. (no icing) plus a lot more goodies . Latest rearend is 4.10 gears with 31 spleen axels and heavy duty eaton posi. putting out 800 lbs of torque to ea. wheel as oppose to the stock 350. I also have a 4 deg. advance module hooked into computer ( in glove box) iceing the aftclr. box and 4 deg. of additional advance. on racing fuel I should pull an additional 60 rwhp for a total of 570 rwhp. (have not tried it yet as I still have 2000 miles only on new motor. Waiting to change back to synthetic after 3000 miles, lthen race time.) good luck on yor traction problem hope I didn't offend any one else besides Mr. Titan..he sure knows his cars....

Titan · 09-10-2002, 12:49 PM

wow...gimme more money than I can spend and I'll be sure to come to california and meet up w/ you and deuce and head to the track....wow...all your modding talk really made me feel stupid...I'll go cowar down in a corner now...maimi, one more time--did you have better traction before or after your rear-end...

Oh ya, he already answered that: "MY TIRES SPIN LIKE I WAS ON ICE...THEY DIDN'T SPIN ANYWHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS THEY DO NOW WHEN I HAD THE STOCK GEARS"

Guess you're the only one, chica...

chico · 09-10-2002, 12:56 PM

Titan..you remind me of my son, he's 21 years old an knows everything...

P.S. do the modified windshielsd wibers and and radion antena help the E.T.

Titan · 09-10-2002, 12:59 PM

You know, I know enough to make you feel like a complete dumb*ss on this forum, but w/ respect to hammer and everybody else, I'm not going to. I could care less about your "510 RWHP on 91 octane gas" car and whatever else you want to brag about. I'm not getting in a pissing contest w/ someone who can't even spell windshield or radio...

blue00gt · 09-10-2002, 01:33 PM

When you change gears the amount of traction you have DOES NOT change - that is a function of tires, suspension, and weight balance. It just becomes more difficult not to overpower the tires when you put a steeper gear in, so basically if you have traction problems after a gear change you just need to relearn how to launch with the extra torque multiplication.

Hammer · 09-10-2002, 01:45 PM

Quote:

so basically if you have traction problems after a gear change you just need to relearn how to launch with the extra torque multiplication.

and get bigger meats on the rear or drag radials...

On another note:

What is it with you guys this week? Feel like arguing or something....
Don't make me break out the laser-guided delete bomb...

Chico:
This forum is known for its accuracy and correct information.
While we DO get the newer stang drivers due to the model years we support, the core of our membership are some of the most knowledgable on the net.

So relax, and I'm sure you'll fit right in....

chico · 09-10-2002, 03:46 PM

spoken like a true warrior...

chico · 09-10-2002, 03:56 PM

The last reply was not directed at your reply to me...just saw your reply...I'm sure the membership is very knowledgeable,I have seen evidence of this many times...have alos gained some good advice from some of you membership..this last little episode was hard to ignore...again ,sorry if I have offended any of your membership, couldn't help playing with the adolescent.

miami00gt_spring_ed · 09-11-2002, 09:57 PM

WELL GUYS... I DECIDED TO STAY WITH THE STOCK RIMS AND SLAP ON A PAIR OF 275 NITTO DRAGS...PLUS THE NOS FOGGER 125 SHOT...AND WITH MY 4.10'S I'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW HOW I FAIR AT THE TRACK NEXT WEEK....I RAN A 14.4 @96.97 MPH BONE STOCK...GONNA SEE WHAT I DO WITH THE NEW SET UP

09-06-2002, 07:50 PM	#1
miami00gt_spring_ed Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: miami Posts: 14	17 X 10.5??? WELL...I GOT MY 4.10'S IN AND I HAVE NO GRIP WHATSOEVER!!! ANYONE RUNNING 17 X 10.5?? IF SO..WHICH DRAG RADIAL..NITTO 315/35????

09-08-2002, 03:37 AM	#2
Titan Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 296	Here's a thought...lighter on the right pedal...saves gas __________________ Current Sophomore -- Mechanical Engineering Black on Black 98' GT 5-Speed Mods = Stuff

09-08-2002, 11:20 AM	#4
Titan Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 296	never used them. Check out http://reviews.stangnet.com They review everything, including tires. If your traction is that bad, try getting slicks. __________________ Current Sophomore -- Mechanical Engineering Black on Black 98' GT 5-Speed Mods = Stuff

09-08-2002, 11:49 AM	#5
Shelby428cj Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 510	BF Goodrich makes some good steet legal drags too!!! See Ya, Karen __________________ Karen Wells, Moderator The Mustang Works Magazine http://www.mustangworks.com 1969 Mustang (Project Rice Eater) 1999 Silver Mustang Saleen S281 (SQ car for stereo contests) SQ Goddess My Stereo Bro "tireburner163"

09-08-2002, 04:43 PM	#6
chico Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Manteca,Ca. Posts: 114	Traction? You should grip better with 4.10's compared to 3.73 or 3.27 __________________ 98 cobra convt. 515 rwhp 421 torque..554 rwhp on 98 octane..635 rwhp this summer

09-08-2002, 11:03 AM	#3
miami00gt_spring_ed Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: miami Posts: 14	I WOULD LOVE TO BE LIGHTER AND THE THROTTLE...BUT AT THE TRACK IT'S A NO NO ...LOL...WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT 17X10.5 WITH NITTO DRAGS?

09-09-2002, 12:51 PM	#8
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	To tell you the truth I didn't see any improvement in traction when I had 17x10.5 with 315s compared to my 17x9 with 285s now, plus the 10.5" wheel and big tire slow you down on top end. If you already have the 10.5" wheel, then 315 is the right size. What you need to do is learn how to slip the clutch off the line so you don't break traction. __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

09-09-2002, 05:10 PM	#9
chico Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Manteca,Ca. Posts: 114	tire spin Mr Titan freshmen...let me answer you remark with a question? Is it easier to spin tires at dead stop or tires that are moving? __________________ 98 cobra convt. 515 rwhp 421 torque..554 rwhp on 98 octane..635 rwhp this summer

09-09-2002, 11:13 PM	#10
Titan Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 296	Either, depending on how fast you're going. I can be at a stop, put my car in second gear, drop the clutch and leave a hundred foot drag mark, pulling it through third. I can also be going around 15 mph and stomp the gas and the rear end goes which ever way the pavement is sloped (as long as I don't oversteer). I don't konw what that has to do w/ traction, though. When I had my stock rear end in, I could never spin the tires like I do now...so, back to the original question--how does a steeper gear = more traction if all you do is punch the gas and the tires spin. And before you come back w/ a smart-*ss remark for that, make sure you read the first two threads again. Miami said "WELL...I GOT MY 4.10'S IN AND I HAVE NO GRIP WHATSOEVER!!!" Now, ask him if his tires spun as much before he swapped his rear-end... __________________ Current Sophomore -- Mechanical Engineering Black on Black 98' GT 5-Speed Mods = Stuff

09-10-2002, 11:05 AM	#11
miami00gt_spring_ed Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: miami Posts: 14	MY TIRES SPIN LIKE I WAS ON ICE...THEY DIDN'T SPIN ANYWHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS THEY DO NOW WHEN I HAD THE STOCK GEARS..........I"M GETTING 275 DRAG RADIALS TOMORROW AND THE NITROUS EXPRESS 100 SHOT...AND OFF TO THE TRACK TOMORROW NIGHT!!!! WISH ME HAPPY TIMES...LOL..AND I HOPE TO TAKE OUT A FEW CAMAROS AND VETTES....

09-10-2002, 12:27 PM	#12
chico Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Manteca,Ca. Posts: 114	traction Sorry for yanking you chain guys...I wqs curious as to what comments I could pull out of the woodwork...FYI I own a daily driver 98 Cobra convt. pulling 510 rwhp on 91 octane...this iis my 3rd motor and 4th set of gears...of course lower gears will cause additional wheel spin. Its all in the tires, suspension and especially the driver..my last time was 11.02 @126 mph on the 91 octane. My new motor is running CP 8.3 pistons ,14 lbs boost with aftclr. (no icing) plus a lot more goodies . Latest rearend is 4.10 gears with 31 spleen axels and heavy duty eaton posi. putting out 800 lbs of torque to ea. wheel as oppose to the stock 350. I also have a 4 deg. advance module hooked into computer ( in glove box) iceing the aftclr. box and 4 deg. of additional advance. on racing fuel I should pull an additional 60 rwhp for a total of 570 rwhp. (have not tried it yet as I still have 2000 miles only on new motor. Waiting to change back to synthetic after 3000 miles, lthen race time.) good luck on yor traction problem hope I didn't offend any one else besides Mr. Titan..he sure knows his cars.... __________________ 98 cobra convt. 515 rwhp 421 torque..554 rwhp on 98 octane..635 rwhp this summer

09-10-2002, 12:49 PM	#13
Titan Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 296	wow...gimme more money than I can spend and I'll be sure to come to california and meet up w/ you and deuce and head to the track....wow...all your modding talk really made me feel stupid...I'll go cowar down in a corner now...maimi, one more time--did you have better traction before or after your rear-end... Oh ya, he already answered that: "MY TIRES SPIN LIKE I WAS ON ICE...THEY DIDN'T SPIN ANYWHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS THEY DO NOW WHEN I HAD THE STOCK GEARS" Guess you're the only one, chica... __________________ Current Sophomore -- Mechanical Engineering Black on Black 98' GT 5-Speed Mods = Stuff

09-10-2002, 12:56 PM	#14
chico Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Manteca,Ca. Posts: 114	Attitude Titan..you remind me of my son, he's 21 years old an knows everything... P.S. do the modified windshielsd wibers and and radion antena help the E.T. __________________ 98 cobra convt. 515 rwhp 421 torque..554 rwhp on 98 octane..635 rwhp this summer

09-10-2002, 12:59 PM	#15
Titan Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 296	You know, I know enough to make you feel like a complete dumb*ss on this forum, but w/ respect to hammer and everybody else, I'm not going to. I could care less about your "510 RWHP on 91 octane gas" car and whatever else you want to brag about. I'm not getting in a pissing contest w/ someone who can't even spell windshield or radio... __________________ Current Sophomore -- Mechanical Engineering Black on Black 98' GT 5-Speed Mods = Stuff

09-10-2002, 01:33 PM	#16
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	When you change gears the amount of traction you have DOES NOT change - that is a function of tires, suspension, and weight balance. It just becomes more difficult not to overpower the tires when you put a steeper gear in, so basically if you have traction problems after a gear change you just need to relearn how to launch with the extra torque multiplication. __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

09-10-2002, 03:46 PM	#18
chico Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Manteca,Ca. Posts: 114	Adolescence spoken like a true warrior... __________________ 98 cobra convt. 515 rwhp 421 torque..554 rwhp on 98 octane..635 rwhp this summer

09-10-2002, 03:56 PM	#19
chico Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Manteca,Ca. Posts: 114	correction The last reply was not directed at your reply to me...just saw your reply...I'm sure the membership is very knowledgeable,I have seen evidence of this many times...have alos gained some good advice from some of you membership..this last little episode was hard to ignore...again ,sorry if I have offended any of your membership, couldn't help playing with the adolescent. __________________ 98 cobra convt. 515 rwhp 421 torque..554 rwhp on 98 octane..635 rwhp this summer

09-11-2002, 09:57 PM	#20
miami00gt_spring_ed Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: miami Posts: 14	WELL GUYS... I DECIDED TO STAY WITH THE STOCK RIMS AND SLAP ON A PAIR OF 275 NITTO DRAGS...PLUS THE NOS FOGGER 125 SHOT...AND WITH MY 4.10'S I'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW HOW I FAIR AT THE TRACK NEXT WEEK....I RAN A 14.4 @96.97 MPH BONE STOCK...GONNA SEE WHAT I DO WITH THE NEW SET UP

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