Kenne Bell 6-14psi TS charger for 2v mods

JBeryleC · 03-19-2004, 03:13 AM

List price is $3799... comes complete.
I would run the non-intercooled verision w/ 6psi polley
nothing more

question is...

is it really worth 4g's to gain only 106 rwhp ???

surfbeast · 03-19-2004, 07:13 AM

Shop around, you can find other s/C's for less. And you won't gain 106 HP from any other mod except maybe N2O. The nitrous route is alot cheaper but the S/C is always ready. And remember there is always something you need to upgrade when adding 106 HP, so that 4K figure will probably go higher. As far as "worth it" goes, big power is BIG money!

JBeryleC · 03-19-2004, 01:02 PM

well I know the rear end can handle the power. and I've heard the 5 speed tranny handles up to 500 hp no problem.

can you give me some examples of what i would need to upgrade if i add 106hp?

blue00gt · 03-19-2004, 08:39 PM

Whether the rear and tranny can handle the power all depends on whether you run slicks or not. Some stock Mach 1s are breaking the stock 28-spline axles on slicks and they aren't making as much power and torque as a Kenne Belle equipped 4.6 2V.

JBeryleC · 03-19-2004, 08:43 PM

Well I dont run slicks, and I dont race.. its a vert... I'll never put a ugly roll bar on her!!

the power is just to show off what the true original muscle car is all about

JBeryleC · 03-20-2004, 01:50 AM

But if something breaks.. it'll most likely be a u-joint, right?
And maybe an axle shaft.

I can put in stronger u-joints and even upgrade to 31 spline carrier and axle shafts... just to be safe

It wont be for a long time before I can afford the KenneBell anyhow.. lol

Thanks

explicitone · 03-20-2004, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JBeryleC
But if something breaks.. it'll most likely be a u-joint, right?
And maybe an axle shaft.

I can put in stronger u-joints and even upgrade to 31 spline carrier and axle shafts... just to be safe

It wont be for a long time before I can afford the KenneBell anyhow.. lol

Thanks

no the trans can not handle that much power i have had 1 go south at 260rwhp on the stock tires and no the rearend will not hold up I have 250rwhp car break axles and worse the spidet greas in the diff
and the clutch and the driveshaft will need to be changed
but as for spending 4k on 106 hp you will spend more then that to come close will a n/a setup

JBeryleC · 03-20-2004, 06:34 PM

Two things..

1. I think the 8.8 solid axle is more durable than the Cobra's IRS... and the cobra has 390hp. So the stock 8.8 rear end should be plenty good enough for what I'm doing

2. Does anyone know how much hp the stock clutch can take before slipping??

Any suggestions on which clutch to get (when mine goes)??
And remember... I dont drag like you all do.. haha
Just a daily driver here

Thanks

explicitone · 03-21-2004, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JBeryleC
Two things..

1. I think the 8.8 solid axle is more durable than the Cobra's IRS... and the cobra has 390hp. So the stock 8.8 rear end should be plenty good enough for what I'm doing

2. Does anyone know how much hp the stock clutch can take before slipping??

Any suggestions on which clutch to get (when mine goes)??
And remember... I dont drag like you all do.. haha
Just a daily driver here

Thanks

the housing is stronger and can be made stronger but as for the diff and axles the 03 cobra stuff is stronger then the stock gt stuff

it depend on the abuse you put it through I have seen the stock clutch go into the mid 300s but then again I seen a stock clutch slip bad with 240hp(and clutch only had 3500 miles on it

if going with a blower you going to need a clutch in no way will ever be as nice on your leg or as d/d as the stock

spec stage 2
centerforce d/f
mcloed
ram 900

JBeryleC · 03-21-2004, 02:16 PM

Ok. thanks!

SleeperGT · 03-21-2004, 06:33 PM

Guy around town has a 99 GT, 5-spd, Vortech, plenty of bolt ons, running stock transmission and internals. A month ago I saw him run back to back 11.95's at 119 mph on drag radials. I'd say he has at least double your 100 hp figure. He has 105K miles on the car and hasn't broken anything yet. I've got about 150 over stock and nothing major broken yet (just had to replace the valve cover gaskets at 60k).

TARZAN · 03-21-2004, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JBeryleC
Well I dont run slicks, and I dont race.. its a vert... I'll never put a ugly roll bar on her!!

the power is just to show off what the true original muscle car is all about

ROFLMAO!!!!

I give is 3 months

-Will

SMOKE · 03-22-2004, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleeperGT
Guy around town has a 99 GT, 5-spd, Vortech, plenty of bolt ons, running stock transmission and internals. A month ago I saw him run back to back 11.95's at 119 mph on drag radials. I'd say he has at least double your 100 hp figure. He has 105K miles on the car and hasn't broken anything yet. I've got about 150 over stock and nothing major broken yet (just had to replace the valve cover gaskets at 60k).

Glad someone offered a counter point.
An additional 100hp/trq can break things .... true, but at stock the same components can break.

I've been running just over 300+rwhp for several years - nothing broke yet.

JBeryleC - I'd suggestt riding in a superrcharged car (similar type) and make your call on if it's worth it.

I'd think it is.

JBeryleC · 03-22-2004, 11:40 PM

If I was to spend the money I'd get the Kenne Bell kit

what are you running?

TARZAN · 03-23-2004, 12:26 AM

Seriously, if you do the math........

$$$/HP and Tq. gained.....

A Supercharger is the most efficient means that is always present.

-Will

04S/CStallion · 03-27-2004, 04:56 PM

Why are you so hard on about the Kenne Belle Kit? My ATI kit kicks the **** outta a kenne belle and for less money, and with a 36k warranty.

explicitone · 03-28-2004, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 04S/CStallion
Why are you so hard on about the Kenne Belle Kit? My ATI kit kicks the **** outta a kenne belle and for less money, and with a 36k warranty.

its the new craze
\cause of they are new to the 2v and the 03 cobra has one
and people read to many magazines without see or driving/riding in a car with one for them selfs
myself would never buy or use one I would rather have a vortec/paxton or ati

sleeper_stang_2000 · 03-28-2004, 02:36 PM

I run drag radials and take a look at my stats....never broken any driveline components....it can take it!

SMOKE · 03-29-2004, 12:11 PM

JBeryleC -- I'm running the old SVO/ROUSH supercharger. 5+ years.

Back on Topic:
Well I think it's great there is a different offering from the centri set-ups. Diversity, is good.

Agreed, a lot of folks do realize it's the new thing and the gains are very inviting.

But my point remains, if haven't tried it you shouldn't knock it. Just make an informed decision, especially when you're dropping that kind of cash.

Cameron · 03-29-2004, 12:41 PM

I personally would go with a Twin Turbo set-up. More HP and more Torque at lower boost. http://www.turbochargedpower.com/

03-19-2004, 03:13 AM	#1
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	Kenne Bell 6-14psi TS charger for 2v mods List price is $3799... comes complete. I would run the non-intercooled verision w/ 6psi polley nothing more question is... is it really worth 4g's to gain only 106 rwhp ??? __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-19-2004, 07:13 AM	#2
surfbeast Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Maryville,TN Posts: 415	Shop around, you can find other s/C's for less. And you won't gain 106 HP from any other mod except maybe N2O. The nitrous route is alot cheaper but the S/C is always ready. And remember there is always something you need to upgrade when adding 106 HP, so that 4K figure will probably go higher. As far as "worth it" goes, big power is BIG money! __________________ 98 GT / convertable -98 Saleen engine, Saleen appearance pkg. SHM cams,P&P NPI heads, and so much more!

03-19-2004, 01:02 PM	#3
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	well I know the rear end can handle the power. and I've heard the 5 speed tranny handles up to 500 hp no problem. can you give me some examples of what i would need to upgrade if i add 106hp? __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-19-2004, 08:39 PM	#4
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	Whether the rear and tranny can handle the power all depends on whether you run slicks or not. Some stock Mach 1s are breaking the stock 28-spline axles on slicks and they aren't making as much power and torque as a Kenne Belle equipped 4.6 2V. __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

03-19-2004, 08:43 PM	#5
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	Well I dont run slicks, and I dont race.. its a vert... I'll never put a ugly roll bar on her!! the power is just to show off what the true original muscle car is all about __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-20-2004, 01:50 AM	#6
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	But if something breaks.. it'll most likely be a u-joint, right? And maybe an axle shaft. I can put in stronger u-joints and even upgrade to 31 spline carrier and axle shafts... just to be safe It wont be for a long time before I can afford the KenneBell anyhow.. lol Thanks __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-20-2004, 06:34 PM	#8
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	Two things.. 1. I think the 8.8 solid axle is more durable than the Cobra's IRS... and the cobra has 390hp. So the stock 8.8 rear end should be plenty good enough for what I'm doing 2. Does anyone know how much hp the stock clutch can take before slipping?? Any suggestions on which clutch to get (when mine goes)?? And remember... I dont drag like you all do.. haha Just a daily driver here Thanks __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-21-2004, 02:16 PM	#10
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	Ok. thanks! __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-21-2004, 06:33 PM	#11
SleeperGT Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ponte Vedra Beach, FL Posts: 122	Guy around town has a 99 GT, 5-spd, Vortech, plenty of bolt ons, running stock transmission and internals. A month ago I saw him run back to back 11.95's at 119 mph on drag radials. I'd say he has at least double your 100 hp figure. He has 105K miles on the car and hasn't broken anything yet. I've got about 150 over stock and nothing major broken yet (just had to replace the valve cover gaskets at 60k). __________________ '00 GT 5-spd Vortech S-Trim 3.1" Pulley Paxton Air-to-Air Aftercooler 90 mm MAS 42 lb injectors Cobra Fuel Pump 70 mm AccuFab Throttlebody C & L Intake Plenum 2 1/2" X-pipes Anderson PowerPipe MagnaFlow Mufflers Diablo Custom Chip 3.73's Steeda Lower Control Arms 358 rwhp (Mustang Dyno) New Track Times Coming Soon

03-22-2004, 11:40 PM	#14
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	If I was to spend the money I'd get the Kenne Bell kit what are you running? __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-23-2004, 12:26 AM	#15
TARZAN Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philadelphia, MS Posts: 191	Seriously, if you do the math........ $$$/HP and Tq. gained..... A Supercharger is the most efficient means that is always present. -Will __________________ I'm just a guy who has nothing better to do, and loves his stangs. -Will

03-27-2004, 04:56 PM	#16
04S/CStallion Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Loveland,Colorado Posts: 44	Why are you so hard on about the Kenne Belle Kit? My ATI kit kicks the **** outta a kenne belle and for less money, and with a 36k warranty.

03-28-2004, 02:36 PM	#18
sleeper_stang_2000 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: south florida Posts: 45	I run drag radials and take a look at my stats....never broken any driveline components....it can take it! __________________ 2000 GT Coupe Automatic! CAI, X-Pipe, Eibach Pro, 100 Shot NOS Best run: 12.187 @112.9 w/ 1.75 60ft. 3ft Above Sea evel

03-29-2004, 12:11 PM	#19
SMOKE Old School ROUSH Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Stockbridge, GA Posts: 531	JBeryleC -- I'm running the old SVO/ROUSH supercharger. 5+ years. Back on Topic: Well I think it's great there is a different offering from the centri set-ups. Diversity, is good. Agreed, a lot of folks do realize it's the new thing and the gains are very inviting. But my point remains, if haven't tried it you shouldn't knock it. Just make an informed decision, especially when you're dropping that kind of cash.

03-29-2004, 12:41 PM	#20
Cameron Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 39	I personally would go with a Twin Turbo set-up. More HP and more Torque at lower boost. http://www.turbochargedpower.com/ __________________ 2002 GT stock 1992 GT carbed 351

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