Steeda "intake" spacer???

JBeryleC · 03-18-2004, 01:44 AM

Does anyone run what Steeda calls an intake spacer?
It's actually an upper plenum spacer, correct?

They say it adds 2 to 3 rwhp

For only $70... great deal, if its true!

Easy install too!

surfbeast · 03-18-2004, 08:21 AM

Don't waste your time with the "STEEDA" spacer. If you want a spacer you can get a "Phenolic" ( special plastic) spacer off e-bay for under $20 bucks. I got one a year back when I was jonesing for anything to do to the car, even if it did not work. I paid 15 bucks plus 3 bucks shipping. Installed quickly and never noticed any difference. If I had paid $70 plus shipping I would have kikked myself in the AZZ.

xxxBlakexxx · 03-18-2004, 09:30 AM

The Plunum guys, like C&L, all claim that a spacer is not needed.

JBeryleC · 03-18-2004, 01:32 PM

So Steeda's claim of a 2 to 3 hp gain is not true??

I would think that they have dyno tested to prove their advertising, no?

I hate it when these companies out there claim on thing, but in REAL life their product doesnt help!! lol

Thanks guys

xxxBlakexxx · 03-18-2004, 05:29 PM

spacers work! a little. But with a plenum, they are not needed. If you are going to go to the effort of pulling everything out, might as well add a plenum. Then you do it only once. That's my position.

JBeryleC · 03-18-2004, 08:49 PM

Well it looks like to add the spacer its just 4 bolts, a few bucks, and a 2 hp gain.. I think its worth it. I'm gonna get one.

Maybe a plenum someday, dont have the $$ right now for that

Thanks for the input

xxxBlakexxx · 03-18-2004, 11:34 PM

What I meant is this, to install the spacer, you have to remove the existing intake plenum, hoses, and throttle cable. To me, it makes the most sense to just install a new TB and Plenum all at the same time and ditch the spacer idea. If you need to hold-off on the parts due to funds, then so be it. No big deal.

I think often times we do things just to feel like were doing something instead of being smart. Been there done that.

JBeryleC · 03-18-2004, 11:43 PM

Well I dont mind the labor involved.. I dont care about tearing it all down and then having to do it all again when I can afford the better plenum and tb

Its a hobby for me and gives me a reason to be outta the house! So I just assume add everything little thing I can

And if adds little to none power, then atleast I know its there, doing something atleast. haha

They claim it keeps down the heat transfer from the lower intake to the plenum... therefore running slightly cooler air.

I dunno if it's believable or not.. lol

explicitone · 03-19-2004, 02:10 AM

I would not waste the money on a 70 pos if you dont have the money I would put that 70$ it a savings account and save till you can get some mods that will help
I just hate to see poeple spend money on mods that do nothing

spacers work on the 5.0 cause both the upper and lower were made of alum. so they helped the upper from building heat
but on the 4.6 GTs the lower is plastic so there now reason for them
THEY ARE WASTE ON MONEY
but if you really want one get it from ebay there are ton of used ones out there cause no one wants them cause they do nothing

JBeryleC · 03-19-2004, 02:28 AM

Um.. did I read that right??? You say that the lower intake is PLASTIC??

I dont know about that

explicitone · 03-19-2004, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JBeryleC
Um.. did I read that right??? You say that the lower intake is PLASTIC??

I dont know about that

yes the lower intake is made of abs plastic

starting in 96-04

JBeryleC · 03-19-2004, 02:52 AM

you've got to be kidding me!! holy crap!

plastic intakes now? what is this coming to?

I guess thats good, like you said, less heat transfer from the block to the incoming air

awesome

explicitone · 03-19-2004, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JBeryleC
you've got to be kidding me!! holy crap!

plastic intakes now? what is this coming to?

I guess thats good, like you said, less heat transfer from the block to the incoming air

awesome

less heat and it weighs less as well but when it comes to running on the spray you have to make sur you dont hit the limiter or the lower intake will blow into many little parts. (thats what a window switch is for)

Mercury · 03-19-2004, 02:57 AM

Plastic intakes have been used for a good while now. Not just by Ford, but just about every manufacturer.

Its all about money. There alot cheaper to make than metal ones.

Red Mustang Gt 46 · 03-19-2004, 09:48 AM

Personally I would not spend 70.00 bucks that Steeda wants...but I personally have bought one from a guy on Ebay for 29.00 ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2465303545 ). Yes in the "day" a spacer would act as a heat shield and increase the plenum length. Now, it is basically used to increase the plenum length...I'm guessing from other friends experiences that it works much better on 96-98 2V's because the plenum length is shorter on these intakes...as for 99+ 2V's...I'd say the spacer wouldn't be as effective because of the already added length plenum design. For what it's worth...in my experience with my 98', it made a difference in the lower RPM range...not much.

surfbeast · 03-19-2004, 10:20 AM

If you really want to work on the car for a project then just get a piece of 1/2 inch plywood and trace out the shape of the opening. Cut and drill the plywood and install. Less than 5 bucks for a useless spacer. If that sounds stupid then paying 70 bucks sounds rediculous. Spend that 70 somewhere else. a 70mm T/B is like 120 on e-bay and that's new!

blue00gt · 03-19-2004, 08:44 PM

JBeryleC,

Think about this. You say that the intake spacer seems worth it at $70 for a 2rwhp gain (if you even get that). But you said the Kenne Belle 6psi non-intercooled twin screw was expensive for a 106rwhp gain. That comes to almost exactly the same $/hp.
I realize that not everyone has the money to buy a blower, but don't waste yours on a spacer. If anything just buy an upper plenum for between $100-200 that actually gives you a proven gain and is optimized without a spacer.

JBeryleC · 03-19-2004, 08:46 PM

Yes I know. The spacer question was done with a while back.. when someone finely told me that the lower intake is plastic!! So there is no need for a spacer to damper heat transfer. Cause there is no heat transfer.. lol

Done deal. Thanks

03-18-2004, 01:44 AM	#1
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	Steeda "intake" spacer??? Does anyone run what Steeda calls an intake spacer? It's actually an upper plenum spacer, correct? They say it adds 2 to 3 rwhp For only $70... great deal, if its true! Easy install too! __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-18-2004, 08:21 AM	#2
surfbeast Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Maryville,TN Posts: 415	Don't waste your time with the "STEEDA" spacer. If you want a spacer you can get a "Phenolic" ( special plastic) spacer off e-bay for under $20 bucks. I got one a year back when I was jonesing for anything to do to the car, even if it did not work. I paid 15 bucks plus 3 bucks shipping. Installed quickly and never noticed any difference. If I had paid $70 plus shipping I would have kikked myself in the AZZ. __________________ 98 GT / convertable -98 Saleen engine, Saleen appearance pkg. SHM cams,P&P NPI heads, and so much more!

03-18-2004, 09:30 AM	#3
xxxBlakexxx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountaintop, PA Posts: 634	The Plunum guys, like C&L, all claim that a spacer is not needed. __________________ "Children should not get cancer, but they do!" Help a child with cancer at www.homeoftheirown.org My Stang: 2000 Mustang GT Vert - Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter; C&L Plenum; BBK 75 mm TB; Steeda Strut Tower Supports; Black "Deep Dish" Bullet Wheels; FRPP 4.10's; Steeda Subframes; SLP Catback & SLP Catted X-Pipe; SCT 4 Position Chip with 3 custom tunes; Steeda CAI; Venom-1000 Nitrous; Roush Stage 3 Body Kit; Bullet Suspension Package (on the way)

03-18-2004, 01:32 PM	#4
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	So Steeda's claim of a 2 to 3 hp gain is not true?? I would think that they have dyno tested to prove their advertising, no? I hate it when these companies out there claim on thing, but in REAL life their product doesnt help!! lol Thanks guys __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-18-2004, 05:29 PM	#5
xxxBlakexxx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountaintop, PA Posts: 634	spacers work! a little. But with a plenum, they are not needed. If you are going to go to the effort of pulling everything out, might as well add a plenum. Then you do it only once. That's my position. __________________ "Children should not get cancer, but they do!" Help a child with cancer at www.homeoftheirown.org My Stang: 2000 Mustang GT Vert - Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter; C&L Plenum; BBK 75 mm TB; Steeda Strut Tower Supports; Black "Deep Dish" Bullet Wheels; FRPP 4.10's; Steeda Subframes; SLP Catback & SLP Catted X-Pipe; SCT 4 Position Chip with 3 custom tunes; Steeda CAI; Venom-1000 Nitrous; Roush Stage 3 Body Kit; Bullet Suspension Package (on the way)

03-18-2004, 08:49 PM	#6
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	Well it looks like to add the spacer its just 4 bolts, a few bucks, and a 2 hp gain.. I think its worth it. I'm gonna get one. Maybe a plenum someday, dont have the $$ right now for that Thanks for the input __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-18-2004, 11:34 PM	#7
xxxBlakexxx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountaintop, PA Posts: 634	What I meant is this, to install the spacer, you have to remove the existing intake plenum, hoses, and throttle cable. To me, it makes the most sense to just install a new TB and Plenum all at the same time and ditch the spacer idea. If you need to hold-off on the parts due to funds, then so be it. No big deal. I think often times we do things just to feel like were doing something instead of being smart. Been there done that. __________________ "Children should not get cancer, but they do!" Help a child with cancer at www.homeoftheirown.org My Stang: 2000 Mustang GT Vert - Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter; C&L Plenum; BBK 75 mm TB; Steeda Strut Tower Supports; Black "Deep Dish" Bullet Wheels; FRPP 4.10's; Steeda Subframes; SLP Catback & SLP Catted X-Pipe; SCT 4 Position Chip with 3 custom tunes; Steeda CAI; Venom-1000 Nitrous; Roush Stage 3 Body Kit; Bullet Suspension Package (on the way)

03-18-2004, 11:43 PM	#8
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	Well I dont mind the labor involved.. I dont care about tearing it all down and then having to do it all again when I can afford the better plenum and tb Its a hobby for me and gives me a reason to be outta the house! So I just assume add everything little thing I can And if adds little to none power, then atleast I know its there, doing something atleast. haha They claim it keeps down the heat transfer from the lower intake to the plenum... therefore running slightly cooler air. I dunno if it's believable or not.. lol __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-19-2004, 02:10 AM	#9
explicitone Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: racine ,wi Posts: 691	I would not waste the money on a 70 pos if you dont have the money I would put that 70$ it a savings account and save till you can get some mods that will help I just hate to see poeple spend money on mods that do nothing spacers work on the 5.0 cause both the upper and lower were made of alum. so they helped the upper from building heat but on the 4.6 GTs the lower is plastic so there now reason for them THEY ARE WASTE ON MONEY but if you really want one get it from ebay there are ton of used ones out there cause no one wants them cause they do nothing __________________ RUN IT STAIGHT AND RUN IT HARD ________ Novi 2000 60' 1.46 1/4 10.67 mph 126.5 _________

03-19-2004, 02:28 AM	#10
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	Um.. did I read that right??? You say that the lower intake is PLASTIC?? I dont know about that __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-19-2004, 02:52 AM	#12
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	you've got to be kidding me!! holy crap! plastic intakes now? what is this coming to? I guess thats good, like you said, less heat transfer from the block to the incoming air awesome __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

03-19-2004, 02:57 AM	#14
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Plastic intakes have been used for a good while now. Not just by Ford, but just about every manufacturer. Its all about money. There alot cheaper to make than metal ones.

03-19-2004, 09:48 AM	#15
Red Mustang Gt 46 13.3 @ 103 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 253	Personally I would not spend 70.00 bucks that Steeda wants...but I personally have bought one from a guy on Ebay for 29.00 ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2465303545 ). Yes in the "day" a spacer would act as a heat shield and increase the plenum length. Now, it is basically used to increase the plenum length...I'm guessing from other friends experiences that it works much better on 96-98 2V's because the plenum length is shorter on these intakes...as for 99+ 2V's...I'd say the spacer wouldn't be as effective because of the already added length plenum design. For what it's worth...in my experience with my 98', it made a difference in the lower RPM range...not much. __________________ Equipment by: Steeda C&L COMP CAMS FRPP MSD Bassani Magnaflow MAC

03-19-2004, 10:20 AM	#16
surfbeast Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Maryville,TN Posts: 415	If you really want to work on the car for a project then just get a piece of 1/2 inch plywood and trace out the shape of the opening. Cut and drill the plywood and install. Less than 5 bucks for a useless spacer. If that sounds stupid then paying 70 bucks sounds rediculous. Spend that 70 somewhere else. a 70mm T/B is like 120 on e-bay and that's new! __________________ 98 GT / convertable -98 Saleen engine, Saleen appearance pkg. SHM cams,P&P NPI heads, and so much more!

03-19-2004, 08:44 PM	#17
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	JBeryleC, Think about this. You say that the intake spacer seems worth it at $70 for a 2rwhp gain (if you even get that). But you said the Kenne Belle 6psi non-intercooled twin screw was expensive for a 106rwhp gain. That comes to almost exactly the same $/hp. I realize that not everyone has the money to buy a blower, but don't waste yours on a spacer. If anything just buy an upper plenum for between $100-200 that actually gives you a proven gain and is optimized without a spacer. __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

03-19-2004, 08:46 PM	#18
JBeryleC Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sebastopol CA Posts: 169	Yes I know. The spacer question was done with a while back.. when someone finely told me that the lower intake is plastic!! So there is no need for a spacer to damper heat transfer. Cause there is no heat transfer.. lol Done deal. Thanks __________________ Torch Red '02 GT Convertible 5 spd BBK long tubes, BBK h-pipe, MAC mufflers, K&N w/ silencer trimmed, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L plenum, Mobil1 synthetic fluids, FRPP aluminum drive shaft, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, FRPP 4.10's, 18x9 & 18x10 Saleens with Dunlop SP Super Sport Race rubber, Mach1 grill (GT delete), & Mach1 bumper chin! Click here for pictures & more info! If you are in Northern California, check out North Bay Mustang Club for local meets and cruises!

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