Looking for advice from Mustang92

Ares · 08-31-2001, 11:16 PM

What would you recommend I do suspension wise for my car. I'm looking to just get some consistant 60'times. My suspension is factory stock. I know it can pull 1.70's or maybe 1.60's if I could get a nice solid launch without worring about breaking tires loose.

Any thing that can help be greatly appreciated.

Ed

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My '00 GT
My '72 Cutlass
2000 GT Laser red-5speed,MAC Cold Air, MAC 2 1/2" Cat-Back, 3.27gears, Pro-5.0 shifter, Weld Draglite's 15x5 and 15x10, 275/50-15 DragT/A's, 165R15 front, BBK Underdrive pullies, BBK offroad X-pipe with Dynomax super converters

Best Quarter mile run to date: 13.350@101.79/1.844

Mustang92 · 09-01-2001, 11:00 PM

I wouldn't take this as gospel but here is what I would suggest.

1) Eibach Drag Springs. I have 4cyl springs up front from a fox body car and stock 2000 V8 springs in the rear cut 1/2 coil. I wouldn't suggest going that route unless you like working and adjusting your suspension.

2) Subframe connectors. Should be done anyway to keep the body straight and reduces body flex.

3) Remove front sway bar. You might have this already done but it will help with weight transfer.

These should help out immensely but if you still have problems look at struts and control arms next. But I've seen people do the spring route and make a big difference. For struts go with Lakewood 70/30 or 90/10 or Koni adjustables if you can afford it. I have the 70/30's only because I had them laying around from my 89 LX. I wouldn't bother replacing the rear since stock they are 50/50's and the Lakewood drag shocks are 50/50.

For control arms I would suggest getting adjustable uppers and solid lowers (stock replace no southside bars) with urathane bushings.

On my car I went with solid metal bushings on all points except for the upper control arm rear end mount and because of that the ride is pretty noisy and it also shredded my factory upper control rear side bushings. Personally the noise doesn't bother me but to some it can get annoying. Also if something else to consider is that if you go with metal bushings is you should really have your torque boxes welded up. It doesn't take much to rip them, although it's more of a concern with slicks.

Bill

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00 GT, MAC Offroad H, Steeda Pulleys & Timing Adjuster, C&L 80mm, 4.30’s, Flows w/turndowns, UPR shifter, UPR Pro Series LCA’s, Lakewood 70/30’s & 50/50’s, 253.8 RWHP/292.8RWTQ
Best ET 12.91
Best MPH 105.49
M/M 100, 7085
2001 Mod Motor Shootout 2V NA Champion

Ares · 09-02-2001, 04:17 PM

Thanks for the info.

How are the Eibach springs on street? This is a concern since car is a daily driver or would the adjustable Tokico help with unwanted rebound for street use with these springs?

Right now today I was able to get it to hook ok and cut a decent 60' but my ET is stuck in the 13.40-50 range since I launch soft at 3k. Though I did pick up some mph and got a personal best of 102.11mph running a 13.48 with 1.93 short time

------------------
My '00 GT
My '72 Cutlass
2000 GT Laser red-5speed,MAC Cold Air, MAC 2 1/2" Cat-Back, 3.27gears, Pro-5.0 shifter, Weld Draglite's 15x5 and 15x10, 275/50-15 DragT/A's, 165R15 front, BBK Underdrive pullies, BBK offroad X-pipe with Dynomax super converters

Best Quarter mile run to date: 13.350@101.79/1.844

Mustang92 · 09-03-2001, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ares:
Thanks for the info.

How are the Eibach springs on street? This is a concern since car is a daily driver or would the adjustable Tokico help with unwanted rebound for street use with these springs?

Right now today I was able to get it to hook ok and cut a decent 60' but my ET is stuck in the 13.40-50 range since I launch soft at 3k. Though I did pick up some mph and got a personal best of 102.11mph running a 13.48 with 1.93 short time

If you hook up the sway bar on the street along with the springs it should be too much different. I really couldn't say exactly how they would handle since I don't have them. The struts are adjustable, so you would be able to put them on the firmer setting on the street. I will mention with my struts that it's near impossible to tell I have drag struts unless you really get on it.

Ares · 09-07-2001, 10:44 PM

I dropped my sway bar at track and WOW. Major difference at launch. Not once did I break loose tonight. First two time runs I kept it at 3k during launch had nice 1.910 and then a 1.904 60'. First round I launched at 4k and had a very nice 1.851 60'. Not even a hint of tire spin.

1st pass=13.479@101.64 1.910
2nd pass=13.344@102.19 1.904

1st round= 13.343@102.13 1.851 (on a 13.34 dial) Lousy red light got me

I definatly need to work with suspension more.

------------------
My '00 GT
2000 GT Laser red-5speed,MAC Cold Air, MAC 2 1/2" Cat-Back, 3.27gears, Pro-5.0 shifter, Weld Draglite's 15x5 and 15x10, 275/50-15 DragT/A's, 165R15 front, BBK Underdrive pullies, BBK offroad X-pipe with Dynomax super converters

Best Quarter mile run to date: 13.350@101.79/1.844 60'(7-6-01)Best MPH 102.11(9-2-01)

Mustang92 · 09-09-2001, 10:35 AM

Cool! Good to hear it helped out. I'm sure a little more practice and you'll get even better 60ft's.

Bill

08-31-2001, 11:16 PM	#1
Ares Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Saxonburg, PA, USA Posts: 236	Looking for advice from Mustang92 What would you recommend I do suspension wise for my car. I'm looking to just get some consistant 60'times. My suspension is factory stock. I know it can pull 1.70's or maybe 1.60's if I could get a nice solid launch without worring about breaking tires loose. Any thing that can help be greatly appreciated. Ed ------------------ My '00 GT My '72 Cutlass 2000 GT Laser red-5speed,MAC Cold Air, MAC 2 1/2" Cat-Back, 3.27gears, Pro-5.0 shifter, Weld Draglite's 15x5 and 15x10, 275/50-15 DragT/A's, 165R15 front, BBK Underdrive pullies, BBK offroad X-pipe with Dynomax super converters Best Quarter mile run to date: 13.350@101.79/1.844

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09-01-2001, 11:00 PM	#2
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	I wouldn't take this as gospel but here is what I would suggest. 1) Eibach Drag Springs. I have 4cyl springs up front from a fox body car and stock 2000 V8 springs in the rear cut 1/2 coil. I wouldn't suggest going that route unless you like working and adjusting your suspension. 2) Subframe connectors. Should be done anyway to keep the body straight and reduces body flex. 3) Remove front sway bar. You might have this already done but it will help with weight transfer. These should help out immensely but if you still have problems look at struts and control arms next. But I've seen people do the spring route and make a big difference. For struts go with Lakewood 70/30 or 90/10 or Koni adjustables if you can afford it. I have the 70/30's only because I had them laying around from my 89 LX. I wouldn't bother replacing the rear since stock they are 50/50's and the Lakewood drag shocks are 50/50. For control arms I would suggest getting adjustable uppers and solid lowers (stock replace no southside bars) with urathane bushings. On my car I went with solid metal bushings on all points except for the upper control arm rear end mount and because of that the ride is pretty noisy and it also shredded my factory upper control rear side bushings. Personally the noise doesn't bother me but to some it can get annoying. Also if something else to consider is that if you go with metal bushings is you should really have your torque boxes welded up. It doesn't take much to rip them, although it's more of a concern with slicks. Bill ------------------ 00 GT, MAC Offroad H, Steeda Pulleys & Timing Adjuster, C&L 80mm, 4.30’s, Flows w/turndowns, UPR shifter, UPR Pro Series LCA’s, Lakewood 70/30’s & 50/50’s, 253.8 RWHP/292.8RWTQ Best ET 12.91 Best MPH 105.49 M/M 100, 7085 2001 Mod Motor Shootout 2V NA Champion

09-02-2001, 04:17 PM	#3
Ares Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Saxonburg, PA, USA Posts: 236	Thanks for the info. How are the Eibach springs on street? This is a concern since car is a daily driver or would the adjustable Tokico help with unwanted rebound for street use with these springs? Right now today I was able to get it to hook ok and cut a decent 60' but my ET is stuck in the 13.40-50 range since I launch soft at 3k. Though I did pick up some mph and got a personal best of 102.11mph running a 13.48 with 1.93 short time ------------------ My '00 GT My '72 Cutlass 2000 GT Laser red-5speed,MAC Cold Air, MAC 2 1/2" Cat-Back, 3.27gears, Pro-5.0 shifter, Weld Draglite's 15x5 and 15x10, 275/50-15 DragT/A's, 165R15 front, BBK Underdrive pullies, BBK offroad X-pipe with Dynomax super converters Best Quarter mile run to date: 13.350@101.79/1.844

09-07-2001, 10:44 PM	#5
Ares Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Saxonburg, PA, USA Posts: 236	I dropped my sway bar at track and WOW. Major difference at launch. Not once did I break loose tonight. First two time runs I kept it at 3k during launch had nice 1.910 and then a 1.904 60'. First round I launched at 4k and had a very nice 1.851 60'. Not even a hint of tire spin. 1st pass=13.479@101.64 1.910 2nd pass=13.344@102.19 1.904 1st round= 13.343@102.13 1.851 (on a 13.34 dial) Lousy red light got me I definatly need to work with suspension more. ------------------ My '00 GT 2000 GT Laser red-5speed,MAC Cold Air, MAC 2 1/2" Cat-Back, 3.27gears, Pro-5.0 shifter, Weld Draglite's 15x5 and 15x10, 275/50-15 DragT/A's, 165R15 front, BBK Underdrive pullies, BBK offroad X-pipe with Dynomax super converters Best Quarter mile run to date: 13.350@101.79/1.844 60'(7-6-01)Best MPH 102.11(9-2-01)

09-09-2001, 10:35 AM	#6
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	Cool! Good to hear it helped out. I'm sure a little more practice and you'll get even better 60ft's. Bill