Non-HO Modifications ?

86 Grand Marqui · 07-11-2002, 11:59 PM

Any "Serious"suggestions of "Non-Internal" Modifications to a Non-HO 5.0.------As of tonight, Flex Fan,,3 Core Radiator,,160 Therm,,MSD Coil(6A is coming),,Good Cap and Rotor,,Good Wires,,No Hot Water circulating in the TB,,Cleaned and Polished the Stock TB,,NO EGR,,TPS at 1.0 V,,Timing at 14,,No Smog Pump,,Home Made Air Induction. I don't want to toss my New Freezing A/C so I can't do Pullies

New Exhaust is Next.Maybe Nitrous ...2.741 60',,17.96 @76 W/O Mods,,,,,2.193 60',,16.38 @81 W/Mods.

Not bad for 4,200 Pounds.

Mr 5 0 · 07-12-2002, 10:39 PM

You've done all the obvious stuff short of heads, intake, cam, etc.

Now you need a 4.30 rear gear, a looser converter and a shift kit along with a trans cooler to wake that big bertha up and get into the 15's.

PKRWUD · 07-13-2002, 04:06 AM

Your TPS is too high, and your t-stat is too low, but what do i know?

Take care,
-Chris

86 Grand Marqui · 07-13-2002, 10:56 AM

You are correct, I have done NO internal Modifications at all to reach that ET.Strapped for cash.I am pretty sure I know what internal Mods I can do.I want to keep my A/C so that means No pullies

I do alot of I-95 Cruising, so I can't really go any lower than 3.73. The Trans is New and shifts Very crisp,stock converter with a New Cooler.

@Big Bertha.---------What TPS setting is correct? and 160 is to low?Hmm? Ok.Thanks.

Mr 5 0 · 07-13-2002, 12:28 PM

The stock Ford 192-195 degree thermostst will deliever better overall performance. Trust me.

TPS setting should be just below 1 volt. Anywhere in the mid-90 range is fine. It should read near 4.9 v @ WOT.

A 3.73 rear is better than stock but a 4.10 would do more.

If you start adding engine upgrades and develop some serious power the stock AOD and converter will eventually fail. They weren't meant for HD applications. Just so you know.

86 Grand Marqui · 07-13-2002, 03:19 PM

I read a few online articles about TPS. They all said just as you advised. 1 even went as far as saying".98 volts EXACTLY!"

Never checked WOT,but I will now.I agree about the Gears, but I want to keep my 80 mph cruise around 2,500rpm,which I have now.I guess my power is approaching 200Hp. I actually don't plan on doing any internal Mods.Maybe a 100hp Nitrous kit, after exhaust.What is the advantage of a 192-195 over a 160?Not saying I don't trust you,just asking.

Mr 5 0 · 07-13-2002, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 86 Grand Marqui

What is the advantage of a 192-195 over a 160? Not saying I don't trust you, just asking.

The 160 thermostat will cause the engine to run too rich. The EEC looks for about 180 degrees to run the proper mixture.

Running rich (and colder) will have some effect on power but you're also thinning out your oil and doing internal damage to the engine for a very small power gain.

The 5.0 engine runs best at around 200 degrees. The Ford thermostst (192) keeps it very close to that temperature.

I strongly suggest you invest a few bucks in a Ford thermostat (good quality) and the time to install it. Your engine will thank you.

86 Grand Marqui · 07-14-2002, 11:50 AM

Ok.195 going Back in,I still have the Old 1. It was New.Not to much on the Car isn't New....Thanks

07-11-2002, 11:59 PM	#1
86 Grand Marqui Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dover, Delaware...Ft.Pierce, Florida...Hiawassee, Georgia...Las Vegas, Nevada. Posts: 90	Non-HO Modifications ? Any "Serious"suggestions of "Non-Internal" Modifications to a Non-HO 5.0.------As of tonight, Flex Fan,,3 Core Radiator,,160 Therm,,MSD Coil(6A is coming),,Good Cap and Rotor,,Good Wires,,No Hot Water circulating in the TB,,Cleaned and Polished the Stock TB,,NO EGR,,TPS at 1.0 V,,Timing at 14,,No Smog Pump,,Home Made Air Induction. I don't want to toss my New Freezing A/C so I can't do Pullies New Exhaust is Next.Maybe Nitrous ...2.741 60',,17.96 @76 W/O Mods,,,,,2.193 60',,16.38 @81 W/Mods. Not bad for 4,200 Pounds.

07-12-2002, 10:39 PM	#2
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	Mercury mods You've done all the obvious stuff short of heads, intake, cam, etc. Now you need a 4.30 rear gear, a looser converter and a shift kit along with a trans cooler to wake that big bertha up and get into the 15's.

07-13-2002, 04:06 AM	#3
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Your TPS is too high, and your t-stat is too low, but what do i know? Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

07-13-2002, 12:28 PM	#5
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	Mods The stock Ford 192-195 degree thermostst will deliever better overall performance. Trust me. TPS setting should be just below 1 volt. Anywhere in the mid-90 range is fine. It should read near 4.9 v @ WOT. A 3.73 rear is better than stock but a 4.10 would do more. If you start adding engine upgrades and develop some serious power the stock AOD and converter will eventually fail. They weren't meant for HD applications. Just so you know.

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07-13-2002, 10:56 AM	#4
86 Grand Marqui Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dover, Delaware...Ft.Pierce, Florida...Hiawassee, Georgia...Las Vegas, Nevada. Posts: 90	You are correct, I have done NO internal Modifications at all to reach that ET.Strapped for cash.I am pretty sure I know what internal Mods I can do.I want to keep my A/C so that means No pullies I do alot of I-95 Cruising, so I can't really go any lower than 3.73. The Trans is New and shifts Very crisp,stock converter with a New Cooler. @Big Bertha.---------What TPS setting is correct? and 160 is to low?Hmm? Ok.Thanks.

07-13-2002, 03:19 PM	#6
86 Grand Marqui Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dover, Delaware...Ft.Pierce, Florida...Hiawassee, Georgia...Las Vegas, Nevada. Posts: 90	I read a few online articles about TPS. They all said just as you advised. 1 even went as far as saying".98 volts EXACTLY!" Never checked WOT,but I will now.I agree about the Gears, but I want to keep my 80 mph cruise around 2,500rpm,which I have now.I guess my power is approaching 200Hp. I actually don't plan on doing any internal Mods.Maybe a 100hp Nitrous kit, after exhaust.What is the advantage of a 192-195 over a 160?Not saying I don't trust you,just asking.

07-14-2002, 11:50 AM	#8
86 Grand Marqui Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dover, Delaware...Ft.Pierce, Florida...Hiawassee, Georgia...Las Vegas, Nevada. Posts: 90	Ok.195 going Back in,I still have the Old 1. It was New.Not to much on the Car isn't New....Thanks