Stock 1/4 mile time of an LS1...

05-13-2002, 08:54 PM

I know the LS1 would take me to the woodshed...lol How much better is the ET on average? Im talking manual trannies here...

StoplightWarrior · 05-13-2002, 09:55 PM

I witnessed a BONE STOCK 01 Trans Am ws6 pull a 12.9. Most will run low to mid 13's.

Mercury · 05-14-2002, 12:57 AM

Uh Oh. The can of worms has been opened again. Let me go hump an LS-1 right quick like.

(j/k Unit).

I heard they run sub 9 sec quarter mile times at 240 Mph with a Stick-O-Matic.

Serouisly though, only one here has turned in 12's, and it was 12.8X at 106 or 107(And he's got some subframes, and other chassis stiffners, a lid, and a K&N) and that was once. Most run mid 13's here. You might get the occasional guy break as low as 13.3, but not often at all.

Lizard King · 05-14-2002, 03:48 PM

I think the variance in speed is caused by the factory engines being really different one from each other. Some produce monster power out of the box others are just normal.

At the track here most of the LS1s run bests of 13.5... I have seen one run a 13.19 with exaust done, and this weekend one ran 12.99 with exaust and street (DOT approved) slicks.

There main issue is launching. The torque band is very strong at low RPMs, so either you get wheel spin on start or as soon as you ease into it. Most of them run 2.2-2.3 - 60ft times. Putting a set a slicks on them is a gamble as well since their rear end is not toughest.

Unit 5302 · 05-14-2002, 10:24 PM

Damn you for having the color I wanted Lizard!!!

Expect a phenominal driver to get an ultra high 12 out of a great running stock LS1. On average, mid 13's. With crappy driver, high 13's. With really crappy driver, 14's.

StoplightWarrior · 05-15-2002, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unit 5302
Damn you for having the color I wanted Lizard!!!

Expect a phenominal driver to get an ultra high 12 out of a great running stock LS1. On average, mid 13's. With crappy driver, high 13's. With really crappy driver, 14's.

That's how we play nice with the other posters...

I have seen 12.9's all the way up to 14.8's

They vary greatly, and that's what causes so much drama around the boards.

SLOW 97 · 05-15-2002, 09:02 AM

Yeah GM definitley tends to make a few freak LS1's hear and there. Have you guys read the MM&FF where the test the Bullitt against an SS (Not a fair fight, the Bullitt should go against a more equal Z28)? Well anyway, they ran a 12.9X at around 105 and on the chassis dyno it 321 RWHP! WTF??? That's only 4 FWHP short of it's factory rating. Either GM is modest as hell with their rating or they developed some kind of new fangled drivetrain that puts all the power the engine produces to the ground. You guys shouldn't fear the LS1's too much though. The have NOTHING in the way of aftermarket stuff and their drivers tend to suck at driving. I know were talking LS1's here but a couple days ago I raced 94' LT1 6-speed at a S/L and at the first light he stalled on the launch! (Ha Ha!) Then we were lucky enough to get caught at another light down the street. This time he didn't stall but we raced to around 60 and I had a good half car length on him. (HA! 'Ol Slow triumphs again!) His car should've smoked me considering it's got 60+HP stock and a it's stick.(Not to mention it's got a couple of bolt ons.) This kid was real embarassed when we got back to school because he just got whooped twice by a car 215 hp and an auto.

Thank god Ford has some balls now and is making 'Stangs with well over 300+ ponies right from the factory.

Dark_5.0 · 05-15-2002, 11:10 AM

The LS1 doesnt have much of an aftermarket cause it doesnt need one. There isnt alot of improvement that could be dont to the heads and intake. LS1's with all the bolt ons and gears go 11's in the 1/4 mile. The only time I get nervous is when I hear the car next to me purging or when I look over and see an LS1 or a grand national.

I personaly wouldnt buy an LS1 but they are damn quick!!

Scrapla · 05-15-2002, 11:19 AM

My freind has a 01 trans am ws6 and all he has is a aftermarket air mass sensor, hyper tech comp, and a pulley and he can pull high 12's all night.

96GTPRT · 05-28-2002, 07:03 PM

Who cares, lets just make it a point to be faster then every single one of them.

jax702 · 05-28-2002, 10:20 PM

Sure the LS1s are fast but have u ever rode in or driven one with more than 20k miles on the clock? They are rattle boxes and the integrety is poor to very poor. To top it all off my mothers Chevy Cavalier shares almost the same interior, how sad. Quick in a straight line yes, but have u ever tried to go around a corner???
I'd rather have my mustang anyday.........

Turbo99GT · 05-28-2002, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 96GTPRT
Who cares, lets just make it a point to be faster then every single one of them.

I agree 100%. There isn't one in my area that has me concerned. My built engine with P&P heads should be installed in a few days. I will have to give most of them the leave just to make it interesting(up to 60 mph

) then it's over. Last time at the loacal track I beat a few SSs and one C5 owner with a big mouth. I made sure to line up next to him and then handed him a several car length beating.

FireFinder20 · 06-02-2002, 08:33 AM

I have seen 1 high 12 pass and several low to mid 13s from LS-1 F-bodies, but many high 12s from C5s and a few low 12s from the ZO6. I hate lining up with FBodies because even with the worst driver, I cannot hold them off with their 105-109 mph trap speeds.

The LT-1 has been my favorite snack, but I must admit that I do have to launch perfect, or the hunter becomes the hunted. Scary thing about the LS-1 is even with a blower (8 psi) on the SOHC, the LS-1, with a good driver, still has a chance to win. Eh, I guess it really doesn't matter anymore since the FBody is no more and Vette guys don't usually race.

Mercury · 06-02-2002, 01:37 PM

8psi on a PI 2v 4.6 or a 4 cammer should have no prob dispatching of LS-1's.

Them Mod motors love boost.

Unit 5302 · 06-02-2002, 01:59 PM

Agreed. 8psi on just about ANY modular 4.6L should have LS-1 beating potential, and on the newer one's you'll own the LS-1 in stock format.

FireFinder20 · 06-03-2002, 09:34 AM

As a matter of fact, I went to the track yesterday and did witness such an event. A blown 96-98 GT went 12s (didn't pay too much attention to the number) while a poor guy with an SS Camaro was going 13.0s most of the day. Now he did admit that he had to baby it because it has that 7.5 rear, but hey, you know what they say...come to win! GM needs to go back to the drawing board the next time they build a 'sports car'. The 2 Vettes that were there didn't any better. Oh well...

05-13-2002, 08:54 PM	#1
StangGT2002 Guest Posts: n/a	Stock 1/4 mile time of an LS1... I know the LS1 would take me to the woodshed...lol How much better is the ET on average? Im talking manual trannies here...

05-13-2002, 09:55 PM	#2
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	I witnessed a BONE STOCK 01 Trans Am ws6 pull a 12.9. Most will run low to mid 13's. __________________ Black 2000 GT Auto V2-SQ, Full Steeda G-trac Suspension, Baer Brakes, Saleen Body Kit, Corbeau CR1s, Chrome Cobra R's, etc, etc... 341rwhp, 338 torque 1994 Cobra #4343 Bolt on's only... Cofounder of Raccoon Racing

05-14-2002, 12:57 AM	#3
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Uh Oh. The can of worms has been opened again. Let me go hump an LS-1 right quick like. (j/k Unit). I heard they run sub 9 sec quarter mile times at 240 Mph with a Stick-O-Matic. Serouisly though, only one here has turned in 12's, and it was 12.8X at 106 or 107(And he's got some subframes, and other chassis stiffners, a lid, and a K&N) and that was once. Most run mid 13's here. You might get the occasional guy break as low as 13.3, but not often at all. __________________ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. Red Baron, 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. Stage 2 CNC heads with Large Valves, Comp Cams (270-274 dur .550 lift), Forged Crank, DRP pistons, Manly H-beams, Pro M 87 mm Mass Air, 24lb Inj, 75mm TB, Plenum Spacer ,Long Tube Headers, Homemade H-pipe, 2 chamber Flows, 4:10's, Steeda Tri-Ax, LKW 70/30's, Eibach Drag Springs, Steeda SubFrames, Battle Boxes, Rear Girdle, Adj uppers, Alunimum Drshft, Southside Lift Bars. Project Cars, 64 1/2 6cyl coupe, 1930 Model A Nostalgia Rod.

05-14-2002, 03:48 PM	#4
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	I think the variance in speed is caused by the factory engines being really different one from each other. Some produce monster power out of the box others are just normal. At the track here most of the LS1s run bests of 13.5... I have seen one run a 13.19 with exaust done, and this weekend one ran 12.99 with exaust and street (DOT approved) slicks. There main issue is launching. The torque band is very strong at low RPMs, so either you get wheel spin on start or as soon as you ease into it. Most of them run 2.2-2.3 - 60ft times. Putting a set a slicks on them is a gamble as well since their rear end is not toughest. __________________ NEW CAR! - 2002 GT TrueBlue - Best Stock ET - 13.77 Old Lizard - 2000GT Electric Green - Best ET STOCK: 13.662 @ 100.2MPH

05-15-2002, 09:02 AM	#7
SLOW 97 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Arlington Heights,IL Posts: 231	Yeah GM definitley tends to make a few freak LS1's hear and there. Have you guys read the MM&FF where the test the Bullitt against an SS (Not a fair fight, the Bullitt should go against a more equal Z28)? Well anyway, they ran a 12.9X at around 105 and on the chassis dyno it 321 RWHP! WTF??? That's only 4 FWHP short of it's factory rating. Either GM is modest as hell with their rating or they developed some kind of new fangled drivetrain that puts all the power the engine produces to the ground. You guys shouldn't fear the LS1's too much though. The have NOTHING in the way of aftermarket stuff and their drivers tend to suck at driving. I know were talking LS1's here but a couple days ago I raced 94' LT1 6-speed at a S/L and at the first light he stalled on the launch! (Ha Ha!) Then we were lucky enough to get caught at another light down the street. This time he didn't stall but we raced to around 60 and I had a good half car length on him. (HA! 'Ol Slow triumphs again!) His car should've smoked me considering it's got 60+HP stock and a it's stick.(Not to mention it's got a couple of bolt ons.) This kid was real embarassed when we got back to school because he just got whooped twice by a car 215 hp and an auto. Thank god Ford has some balls now and is making 'Stangs with well over 300+ ponies right from the factory. __________________ '97 Laser Red GT Coupe Stock 2V (Pulled Silencer) 4R70W Automatic Ripped off a BLISTERING 15.37@90MPH With a 2.21 60ft Just Installed- K&N Air Filter Coming Soon...... -4.10's -Flowmaster A/T or Magnapack Cat-Back

05-14-2002, 10:24 PM	#5
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Damn you for having the color I wanted Lizard!!! Expect a phenominal driver to get an ultra high 12 out of a great running stock LS1. On average, mid 13's. With crappy driver, high 13's. With really crappy driver, 14's.

05-15-2002, 11:10 AM	#8
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	The LS1 doesnt have much of an aftermarket cause it doesnt need one. There isnt alot of improvement that could be dont to the heads and intake. LS1's with all the bolt ons and gears go 11's in the 1/4 mile. The only time I get nervous is when I hear the car next to me purging or when I look over and see an LS1 or a grand national. I personaly wouldnt buy an LS1 but they are damn quick!! __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

05-15-2002, 11:19 AM	#9
Scrapla Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 532	Ive seen 12sec My freind has a 01 trans am ws6 and all he has is a aftermarket air mass sensor, hyper tech comp, and a pulley and he can pull high 12's all night.

05-28-2002, 07:03 PM	#10
96GTPRT Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 69	Who cares, lets just make it a point to be faster then every single one of them. __________________ 96GTPRT: '96 Laser Red Tinted Mustang GT Convertible. (tan top). Flowmaster cat-back, Bassani X-pipe w/ cats, K&N FIPK, Hypertech 160* t-stat, MSD wires, Bosch plugs, Performance Distributors coil packs, FRPP 70mm throttle body, C&L 87mm mass air. Kenny Brown Super subs, 3.73's, BFGoodrich Comp T/A's Civic...its whats for dinner. Don't ever pull a ricer fly-by!

05-28-2002, 10:20 PM	#11
jax702 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: vegas Posts: 43	Fast P.O.S Sure the LS1s are fast but have u ever rode in or driven one with more than 20k miles on the clock? They are rattle boxes and the integrety is poor to very poor. To top it all off my mothers Chevy Cavalier shares almost the same interior, how sad. Quick in a straight line yes, but have u ever tried to go around a corner??? I'd rather have my mustang anyday......... __________________ 1997 Cobra #3803 WMS cold air intake, 87 Pro M, Autologic chip, BBK twin 62 throttle body, BBK pulleys, Fluidyne radiator, trunk mounted battery....

06-02-2002, 08:33 AM	#13
FireFinder20 I See Stupid People Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 47	I have seen 1 high 12 pass and several low to mid 13s from LS-1 F-bodies, but many high 12s from C5s and a few low 12s from the ZO6. I hate lining up with FBodies because even with the worst driver, I cannot hold them off with their 105-109 mph trap speeds. The LT-1 has been my favorite snack, but I must admit that I do have to launch perfect, or the hunter becomes the hunted. Scary thing about the LS-1 is even with a blower (8 psi) on the SOHC, the LS-1, with a good driver, still has a chance to win. Eh, I guess it really doesn't matter anymore since the FBody is no more and Vette guys don't usually race.

06-02-2002, 01:37 PM	#14
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	8psi on a PI 2v 4.6 or a 4 cammer should have no prob dispatching of LS-1's. Them Mod motors love boost. __________________ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. Red Baron, 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. Stage 2 CNC heads with Large Valves, Comp Cams (270-274 dur .550 lift), Forged Crank, DRP pistons, Manly H-beams, Pro M 87 mm Mass Air, 24lb Inj, 75mm TB, Plenum Spacer ,Long Tube Headers, Homemade H-pipe, 2 chamber Flows, 4:10's, Steeda Tri-Ax, LKW 70/30's, Eibach Drag Springs, Steeda SubFrames, Battle Boxes, Rear Girdle, Adj uppers, Alunimum Drshft, Southside Lift Bars. Project Cars, 64 1/2 6cyl coupe, 1930 Model A Nostalgia Rod.

06-02-2002, 01:59 PM	#15
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Agreed. 8psi on just about ANY modular 4.6L should have LS-1 beating potential, and on the newer one's you'll own the LS-1 in stock format.

06-03-2002, 09:34 AM	#16
FireFinder20 I See Stupid People Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 47	As a matter of fact, I went to the track yesterday and did witness such an event. A blown 96-98 GT went 12s (didn't pay too much attention to the number) while a poor guy with an SS Camaro was going 13.0s most of the day. Now he did admit that he had to baby it because it has that 7.5 rear, but hey, you know what they say...come to win! GM needs to go back to the drawing board the next time they build a 'sports car'. The 2 Vettes that were there didn't any better. Oh well...

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Slicks + Suspension = .6 off 1/4 mile....new track times	84LX89GT	Stang Stories	6	05-14-2003 08:59 AM
1991 5.0 quarter mile time question	Niko'sNeon	Racer's Club House	3	03-26-2002 01:02 PM
HP and 1/4 mile time guessing contest - Lets see who knows their stuff	2FastLX	Windsor Power	12	12-27-2001 02:57 AM
1st worthwhile race in a LONG time	84stangLX	Stang Stories	12	04-20-2001 04:47 PM
Stock Motored N/A Cobra rips off 12.26 @ 114 before rear goes KABOOM!!!	jmeiers	Stang Stories	22	03-13-2001 06:58 PM