Power Steering to Manual conversion

rtz · 02-20-2001, 02:35 AM

I have an '87 5.0, and it's got power steering. It leaks, it's heavy, it's in the way, it's noisy, it's nasty, and I have every reason to remove it.

Will a manual rack off an '84 fit and is that the year too get?

Also, if I buy the rebuilt rack from AutoZone; will they take my power rack for the core charge?

MY91GT · 02-20-2001, 05:11 PM

I heard if you get a manual rack from a 79 mustang, it will fit in place of your old one..ask around, i'm sure someone knows!

rtz · 02-21-2001, 03:19 AM

I don't have anyone around to ask though.

It's just me around here.

rtz · 03-05-2001, 04:03 PM

Well I went to both AutoZone and O'Reilly's and neither of them had one in stock and they said the warehouse's didn't have any and they were on backorder, so they couldn't get even order one for me.

Both had a manual rack listed for an '87. AutoZone had listed it for $114 plus a $50 core charge. O'Reilly's had it listed for $155 and a $75 core charge.

Where can I get a manual rack at for my car?

And no, I don't want to spend ~$400 for that Flaming River one.

rtz · 03-05-2001, 04:56 PM

I called NAPA and they have one for $183 plus an $83 core charge.

I'm going to get that.

rtz · 03-05-2001, 04:59 PM

I'll let you all know how the install goes.

[This message has been edited by rtz (edited 03-05-2001).]

matt cook · 03-05-2001, 05:06 PM

I'm in the same boat, so guys, please help rtz

rtz, tell me if/how it works when you get it done.

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1982 Mustang GT

Jeff Chambers · 03-06-2001, 07:33 AM

The '84 rack will fit. The manual rack from any late model Mustang will work. I usually ask for an '89 four-cylinder stripper (no P/S, A/C, manual tranny). You'll need the lower rag joint as well since the splines are smaller on the manual rack. I've got the part number but its at home...any Ford dealership can order it for you. You may need to use the outer tie rod ends off your power rack since the manuals are about 2 inches shorter end-to-end. Some folks will replace both the inner and out TRE to make the rack the same length, but there's plenty of thread engagement when you reuse the power steering TRE's. Just make sure you've got at least 1 diameter's worth of thread engagement and you'll be fine.

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Jeff Chambers
Trophy Stock #3
11.97 Seconds / 114.5 MPH
Chambers Racing Team

LX XLR8R · 03-06-2001, 12:16 PM

im using a 79-84 rack in my car now with now apparent problems..(i havebt got my front end aligned scense i put it in)

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1987 black notch(ex 4 banger)
DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one..
AIM=onesillynotch

matt cook · 03-06-2001, 01:19 PM

LX XLR8R - did you need to change the rag joint or did it fit right up?

What all was involved in the swap?

Thanks

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1982 Mustang GT

rtz · 03-08-2001, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeff chambers:
You'll need the lower rag joint as well since the splines are smaller on the manual rack.

You've got that right.

I just snapped the bolt in 2 trying too tighten the one I had down all the way.

Do you have the part number for the correct lower rag joint?

Thanks

matt cook · 03-09-2001, 09:10 AM

Here are some PN's - I can't verify if they are right or not, just found the page.
http://members.fortunecity.com/mercu...l/partnum.html

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1982 Mustang GT

rtz · 03-09-2001, 03:16 PM

Well I just called a local Ford dealer here and they want $96 for that part. :/

"The part costs $29 at Ford; part no. is D9BZ 3A525 A."

I wish.

Green92LX · 03-09-2001, 03:25 PM

Hey jeff, you said you would ask for a 89 gutted 4-banger rack, right???

Well my buddy has an 88 5.0 with a rack that is beyond $hitting the bed, and I have a 89 4-banger parts car.....

These racks are the same?

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1992 5.0 LX, V-1 S-Trim @8LBS, Edelbrock 6037 Heads, Cobra Intake,E-303, 1.6 Roller Rockers,65MM Holley TB, 75 MM Pro M Mass Air, 190 LPH FP w/ 24 lb injectors,MSD 6A and BTM, BBK equal length shorties, offroad h-pipe,Mac Flowpath Mufflers, Pro 5.0, 3.73's,Motorsport "C" springs,welded subframe connectors, Ponies w/ 225/50 Nittos, Dark Green w/ 93 Cobra Spoiler

Daily driver: 89 Coupe with 207K plus, BBK shorties,offroad h-pipe,2-chamber flowmasters with dumps

rtz · 03-09-2001, 05:58 PM

Is there someplace online that I could get this "lower rag joint" at for cheap?

02-20-2001, 02:35 AM	#1
rtz Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 180	Power Steering to Manual conversion I have an '87 5.0, and it's got power steering. It leaks, it's heavy, it's in the way, it's noisy, it's nasty, and I have every reason to remove it. Will a manual rack off an '84 fit and is that the year too get? Also, if I buy the rebuilt rack from AutoZone; will they take my power rack for the core charge?

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02-20-2001, 05:11 PM	#2
MY91GT Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: University of Illinois-Urbana/Champaign Posts: 370	I heard if you get a manual rack from a 79 mustang, it will fit in place of your old one..ask around, i'm sure someone knows!

02-21-2001, 03:19 AM	#3
rtz Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 180	I don't have anyone around to ask though. It's just me around here.

03-05-2001, 04:03 PM	#4
rtz Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 180	Well I went to both AutoZone and O'Reilly's and neither of them had one in stock and they said the warehouse's didn't have any and they were on backorder, so they couldn't get even order one for me. Both had a manual rack listed for an '87. AutoZone had listed it for $114 plus a $50 core charge. O'Reilly's had it listed for $155 and a $75 core charge. Where can I get a manual rack at for my car? And no, I don't want to spend ~$400 for that Flaming River one.

03-05-2001, 04:56 PM	#5
rtz Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 180	I called NAPA and they have one for $183 plus an $83 core charge. I'm going to get that.

03-05-2001, 04:59 PM	#6
rtz Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 180	I'll let you all know how the install goes. [This message has been edited by rtz (edited 03-05-2001).]

03-05-2001, 05:06 PM	#7
matt cook Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1998 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 449	I'm in the same boat, so guys, please help rtz rtz, tell me if/how it works when you get it done. ------------------ 1982 Mustang GT

03-06-2001, 07:33 AM	#8
Jeff Chambers Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milan, OH Posts: 2,699	The '84 rack will fit. The manual rack from any late model Mustang will work. I usually ask for an '89 four-cylinder stripper (no P/S, A/C, manual tranny). You'll need the lower rag joint as well since the splines are smaller on the manual rack. I've got the part number but its at home...any Ford dealership can order it for you. You may need to use the outer tie rod ends off your power rack since the manuals are about 2 inches shorter end-to-end. Some folks will replace both the inner and out TRE to make the rack the same length, but there's plenty of thread engagement when you reuse the power steering TRE's. Just make sure you've got at least 1 diameter's worth of thread engagement and you'll be fine. ------------------ Jeff Chambers Trophy Stock #3 11.97 Seconds / 114.5 MPH Chambers Racing Team

03-06-2001, 12:16 PM	#9
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	im using a 79-84 rack in my car now with now apparent problems..(i havebt got my front end aligned scense i put it in) ------------------ 1987 black notch(ex 4 banger) DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one.. AIM=onesillynotch

03-06-2001, 01:19 PM	#10
matt cook Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1998 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 449	LX XLR8R - did you need to change the rag joint or did it fit right up? What all was involved in the swap? Thanks ------------------ 1982 Mustang GT

03-09-2001, 09:10 AM	#12
matt cook Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1998 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 449	Here are some PN's - I can't verify if they are right or not, just found the page. http://members.fortunecity.com/mercu...l/partnum.html ------------------ 1982 Mustang GT

03-09-2001, 03:16 PM	#13
rtz Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 180	Well I just called a local Ford dealer here and they want $96 for that part. :/ "The part costs $29 at Ford; part no. is D9BZ 3A525 A." I wish.

03-09-2001, 03:25 PM	#14
Green92LX Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: North Haven,CT Posts: 336	Hey jeff, you said you would ask for a 89 gutted 4-banger rack, right??? Well my buddy has an 88 5.0 with a rack that is beyond $hitting the bed, and I have a 89 4-banger parts car..... These racks are the same? ------------------ 1992 5.0 LX, V-1 S-Trim @8LBS, Edelbrock 6037 Heads, Cobra Intake,E-303, 1.6 Roller Rockers,65MM Holley TB, 75 MM Pro M Mass Air, 190 LPH FP w/ 24 lb injectors,MSD 6A and BTM, BBK equal length shorties, offroad h-pipe,Mac Flowpath Mufflers, Pro 5.0, 3.73's,Motorsport "C" springs,welded subframe connectors, Ponies w/ 225/50 Nittos, Dark Green w/ 93 Cobra Spoiler Daily driver: 89 Coupe with 207K plus, BBK shorties,offroad h-pipe,2-chamber flowmasters with dumps

03-09-2001, 05:58 PM	#15
rtz Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 180	Is there someplace online that I could get this "lower rag joint" at for cheap?