I think my wheels are going to fall off.

Unit 5302 · 12-11-1999, 12:45 AM

I'm not joking. My whole car feels really loose. The front, the back, everywhere. I check the lugnuts weekly, and the ball joints, tie rod ends "could use replacement" all the time. Also the torque boxes and shocks and struts. This stinks.

During or right after storage I plan to do some stuff to the suspention.

Mainly, lower the car slightly with progressive rates, a bushing kit, welding the torque boxes, lower profile tires "225/60 15's now" and new shocks and struts. I'm also planning on replacing the front control arms and tie rod ends.

I'd like my car to ride just about as good as it does now, but stick in the corners a little better. I'd like some suggestions, keeping in mind I'm not racing this on the track or at the strip.

[This message has been edited by Unit 5302 (edited 12-11-1999).]

Red96GT · 12-13-1999, 09:07 AM

Well, it sounds like you've got the plan. New springs & struts/shocks will help the cornering, along with some sticky tires. Maybe a set of subframe connectors as well.
Do you want parts suggestions?
Springs: FMS "C" springs
Dampers: Formula GP's
SFC: Kenny Brown super subs
Tires: too many choices here

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96 GT: KB subs, March pulleys, Bassani X pipe, 3.73's, alum. drive shaft, 70mm TB, K&N, KB Carbon Kevlar BP, Steeda Tri-ax shifter, Flowmasters, MSD wires

H&R springs, Tokico Illuminas,MM C/C plate & GW RLCA sitting in the garage waiting for a free weekend...

Unit 5302 · 12-13-1999, 07:22 PM

I hear it on the tires. I've used Goodyear Eagle VR's, Firestone Firehawk SZ 50's, and BF Goodrich Comp TA/Vr4's. It all depends on whether or not I decide to keep the car next year. I'm in MN, and the car still has the original gray factory paint underneath, so I'm thinking it'll fetch a pretty nice penny, and if I save a bit more, I may be able to grab a '94.

Arn't the GP's a little $$?

I've also heard the subframes will make my lumberwagon ride like a cement slab. Any thoughts there?

Thanks for your input.

Danbo · 12-13-1999, 07:46 PM

If I had to do it over, I would have used the KB X-treme SB's. I think the Matrix brace is the best engineered chassis brace out there.
Stiffer is always better.
Dan

------------------
'96 Cobra, Steeda G-Trac
Stage III Suspension, K&N
Filter,77mmPro-M,FMS Ceramic
Coated Headers,Bassini-X Pipe,
FMS Al D/S, FMS 3.73's, Cobra R's ,
Firestone SZ-50 275-40x17's,
Powerslot Rotors, Preformance Friction Z rated pads,
(Track PF90 Compound pads),Steeda Tri-Ax,
Schroth Restraints,Kuhmo Victoracers(for the track)
Steeda Functional Wing.
1:32min @ Summit Point

drudis · 12-14-1999, 09:12 AM

The subframes will make your car ride BETTER!!! I installed some in my car, and WOW, what a difference. THe suspension actually moved, not the driver's seat. I can agree with you on getting stiff springs/shocks. Those arent for the faint at heart.

------------------
Darius Rudis
Home built t-arm/panhard suspension powered by an S-trimmed motor :-)
My Mustang Page

Unit 5302 · 12-15-1999, 01:55 AM

It's not that I can't handle them, it's just that I'd like my car to ride more like a Grand Touring car than a brick. I'd like to tweak the suspention into a nice balanced setup, a little better roadholding, and a little better ride quality.

I've heard progressives that are not very aggressive can actually improve everyday ride, and cornering. Of course good shocks and struts will help too.

I'm glad to hear subframes will help the ride out. I have an '87 GT hatch, so it could definately use a little stiffning.

I'll just have to see for now, what my budget looks like, and how much they are selling for in the spring.

feweathers · 12-15-1999, 04:22 PM

Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable shocks would fill the bill for you. You can soften the setting for the street, turn firm 'em up for the track. The settings adjust both rebound and compression.

------------------
Frank
'95 Mustang GT Convertible

Red96GT · 12-16-1999, 08:46 AM

He said he's not racing it, so I thought that 5 ways were a bit much for a street car @ $500/4 .

12-11-1999, 12:45 AM	#1
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	I think my wheels are going to fall off. I'm not joking. My whole car feels really loose. The front, the back, everywhere. I check the lugnuts weekly, and the ball joints, tie rod ends "could use replacement" all the time. Also the torque boxes and shocks and struts. This stinks. During or right after storage I plan to do some stuff to the suspention. Mainly, lower the car slightly with progressive rates, a bushing kit, welding the torque boxes, lower profile tires "225/60 15's now" and new shocks and struts. I'm also planning on replacing the front control arms and tie rod ends. I'd like my car to ride just about as good as it does now, but stick in the corners a little better. I'd like some suggestions, keeping in mind I'm not racing this on the track or at the strip. [This message has been edited by Unit 5302 (edited 12-11-1999).]

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12-13-1999, 09:07 AM	#2
Red96GT Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1998 Location: Charlotte Posts: 435	Well, it sounds like you've got the plan. New springs & struts/shocks will help the cornering, along with some sticky tires. Maybe a set of subframe connectors as well. Do you want parts suggestions? Springs: FMS "C" springs Dampers: Formula GP's SFC: Kenny Brown super subs Tires: too many choices here ------------------ 96 GT: KB subs, March pulleys, Bassani X pipe, 3.73's, alum. drive shaft, 70mm TB, K&N, KB Carbon Kevlar BP, Steeda Tri-ax shifter, Flowmasters, MSD wires H&R springs, Tokico Illuminas,MM C/C plate & GW RLCA sitting in the garage waiting for a free weekend...

12-13-1999, 07:22 PM	#3
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	I hear it on the tires. I've used Goodyear Eagle VR's, Firestone Firehawk SZ 50's, and BF Goodrich Comp TA/Vr4's. It all depends on whether or not I decide to keep the car next year. I'm in MN, and the car still has the original gray factory paint underneath, so I'm thinking it'll fetch a pretty nice penny, and if I save a bit more, I may be able to grab a '94. Arn't the GP's a little $$? I've also heard the subframes will make my lumberwagon ride like a cement slab. Any thoughts there? Thanks for your input.

12-13-1999, 07:46 PM	#4
Danbo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: baltimore Posts: 99	If I had to do it over, I would have used the KB X-treme SB's. I think the Matrix brace is the best engineered chassis brace out there. Stiffer is always better. Dan ------------------ '96 Cobra, Steeda G-Trac Stage III Suspension, K&N Filter,77mmPro-M,FMS Ceramic Coated Headers,Bassini-X Pipe, FMS Al D/S, FMS 3.73's, Cobra R's , Firestone SZ-50 275-40x17's, Powerslot Rotors, Preformance Friction Z rated pads, (Track PF90 Compound pads),Steeda Tri-Ax, Schroth Restraints,Kuhmo Victoracers(for the track) Steeda Functional Wing. 1:32min @ Summit Point

12-14-1999, 09:12 AM	#5
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	The subframes will make your car ride BETTER!!! I installed some in my car, and WOW, what a difference. THe suspension actually moved, not the driver's seat. I can agree with you on getting stiff springs/shocks. Those arent for the faint at heart. ------------------ Darius Rudis Home built t-arm/panhard suspension powered by an S-trimmed motor :-) My Mustang Page

12-15-1999, 01:55 AM	#6
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	It's not that I can't handle them, it's just that I'd like my car to ride more like a Grand Touring car than a brick. I'd like to tweak the suspention into a nice balanced setup, a little better roadholding, and a little better ride quality. I've heard progressives that are not very aggressive can actually improve everyday ride, and cornering. Of course good shocks and struts will help too. I'm glad to hear subframes will help the ride out. I have an '87 GT hatch, so it could definately use a little stiffning. I'll just have to see for now, what my budget looks like, and how much they are selling for in the spring.

12-15-1999, 04:22 PM	#7
feweathers Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Southern California Posts: 541	Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable shocks would fill the bill for you. You can soften the setting for the street, turn firm 'em up for the track. The settings adjust both rebound and compression. ------------------ Frank '95 Mustang GT Convertible

12-16-1999, 08:46 AM	#8
Red96GT Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1998 Location: Charlotte Posts: 435	He said he's not racing it, so I thought that 5 ways were a bit much for a street car @ $500/4 .