Little Suspension Problem...

xspeed02 · 04-06-2002, 01:10 PM

Last summer I had new Eibach Sportlines installed on my car to replace the old stock units as well as fix the little lean my car had. Well about a year later and around 8k miles or so, the car still sits funny. The driver side rear squats lower than the passenger side and so does the driver side front, thought not as bad. I'm really anal about this and want my car to sit perfect, the passenger side sits great and if I could get the car to sit like that I'd be one happy camper. A friend told me new shocks and struts wouldn't make a difference.. Any opinions out there? The guy before me had a tow package on the car and a really heavy stereo system in the back and I think he destroyed the bushings or something. Would appreciate any advice, thanks.

drudis · 04-06-2002, 08:51 PM

You might try some spacers...

xspeed02 · 04-07-2002, 04:02 PM

If it comes to that I might give it a try. But now that I have a really good paying job and I'm only 20 years old without debt, I don't want to half *** anything. I thought maybe someone out there possibly had this problem one time or another, it's getting to the point where I think I may just have the entire suspension redone. I do know one thing though, if I can't ever get the car to sit level, it's getting sold.

JohnnyG · 04-08-2002, 12:57 PM

Perhaps you might want to take it to a frame shop to see if the frame is twisted.

John

Coupe5oh · 04-08-2002, 01:42 PM

I notice drag springs make a car sit funny, dont know if this goes for all cars.

xspeed02 · 04-11-2002, 09:49 AM

Someone suggested taking the car to a frame shop. I really hope it isn't something like that. Is it possible maybe the rear is so bad it just needs new bushings or something to give it that extra lift it needs? It's probably only sitting about an inch lower on the driver side but it's really bugging the crap out of me.

JohnnyG · 04-11-2002, 12:27 PM

If the frame is twisted, you don't want to band-aid the problem... ESPECIALLY if you plan on doing future suspension mods like subframe connectors. You can take it to a frame shop and they can throw it up on a jig (most places for free) to tell you if it's straight or not. If your stang has any history of an accident, I would DEFINITELY take it to a frame shop to get checked-out. I twisted the hell out of my GT Vert. running into a tall curb (don't ask

) , and it was well worth the while to get my frame straightened back out. I don't know what towing a load may or may not do to the fox chassis, do any of you guys know if towing can twist the frame?

Either way, keep it in the back of your mind... especially before you weld in subframe connectors.

John

gtsr515 · 04-11-2002, 12:30 PM

Well, crawl under there and check out the bushings, also it could be with the sway bars, are the links and bushings good?

Check out the torque boxes, tire pressures, put the battery in the back, also maybe the springs were installed wrong, on some kits it DOES matter where each spring goes.

Take a good look at the K-member too.

USMC302 · 04-12-2002, 06:53 AM

Welcome to the club, this is a very common thing in mustangs, I replaced my whole rear suspension even went back to stock springs once to try and figure it out, but still the infamous squat was still there, clean title, never wrecked, bumped or anything, go figure. The strange thing is I only have it on the notch and the notch is the only one I drive hard, it could be due to hard driving and racing a lot but who knows? Let us all know when you figure it out, if you do.

xspeed02 · 04-12-2002, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by gtsr515
Well, crawl under there and check out the bushings, also it could be with the sway bars, are the links and bushings good?

Check out the torque boxes, tire pressures, put the battery in the back, also maybe the springs were installed wrong, on some kits it DOES matter where each spring goes.

Take a good look at the K-member too.

Well that's interesting. If I remember correctly, when I had my car aligned a guy told me that the driver side torque box was torn. I didn't think anything of it. Does that have to do with how high that side of the car sits?

xspeed02 · 04-15-2002, 09:52 AM

Does anyone know if this could be the problem? A torn torque box?

JohnnyG · 04-15-2002, 09:57 AM

Yes, that is definitely a problem... the torque box is where the rear lower control arms attach to the chassis. With a weakened joint at the chassis, your control arm cannot effectively function. You should have that torque box at least re-welded, if not re-inforced with a product like Wild Ride's Battle Boxes... before it becomes a more extensive problem.

John

Dark_5.0 · 04-15-2002, 12:11 PM

I would bet money that your springs are installed wrong. The ends of the springs have to be pointing the same way on the front and rear or it will sit unlevel.

04-06-2002, 01:10 PM	#1
xspeed02 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 119	Little Suspension Problem... Last summer I had new Eibach Sportlines installed on my car to replace the old stock units as well as fix the little lean my car had. Well about a year later and around 8k miles or so, the car still sits funny. The driver side rear squats lower than the passenger side and so does the driver side front, thought not as bad. I'm really anal about this and want my car to sit perfect, the passenger side sits great and if I could get the car to sit like that I'd be one happy camper. A friend told me new shocks and struts wouldn't make a difference.. Any opinions out there? The guy before me had a tow package on the car and a really heavy stereo system in the back and I think he destroyed the bushings or something. Would appreciate any advice, thanks. __________________ xspeed02 1990 Black Mustang GT 5spd

04-06-2002, 08:51 PM	#2
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	You might try some spacers... __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

04-07-2002, 04:02 PM	#3
xspeed02 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 119	If it comes to that I might give it a try. But now that I have a really good paying job and I'm only 20 years old without debt, I don't want to half *** anything. I thought maybe someone out there possibly had this problem one time or another, it's getting to the point where I think I may just have the entire suspension redone. I do know one thing though, if I can't ever get the car to sit level, it's getting sold. __________________ xspeed02 1990 Black Mustang GT 5spd

04-08-2002, 12:57 PM	#4
JohnnyG Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 105	Perhaps you might want to take it to a frame shop to see if the frame is twisted. John __________________ 1991 GT Vert- Black/Black/Black Exhaust, Tremec, Tri-Ax, Centerforce Dual Friction, 3.73's, Rear Seat Delete MM Road & Track Kit PBR 5-Lug Brakes Cobra R's w/ 255 Rubber Rice Hater's Club #60

04-08-2002, 01:42 PM	#5
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	I notice drag springs make a car sit funny, dont know if this goes for all cars. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

04-11-2002, 09:49 AM	#6
xspeed02 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 119	Someone suggested taking the car to a frame shop. I really hope it isn't something like that. Is it possible maybe the rear is so bad it just needs new bushings or something to give it that extra lift it needs? It's probably only sitting about an inch lower on the driver side but it's really bugging the crap out of me. __________________ xspeed02 1990 Black Mustang GT 5spd

04-11-2002, 12:27 PM	#7
JohnnyG Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 105	If the frame is twisted, you don't want to band-aid the problem... ESPECIALLY if you plan on doing future suspension mods like subframe connectors. You can take it to a frame shop and they can throw it up on a jig (most places for free) to tell you if it's straight or not. If your stang has any history of an accident, I would DEFINITELY take it to a frame shop to get checked-out. I twisted the hell out of my GT Vert. running into a tall curb (don't ask ) , and it was well worth the while to get my frame straightened back out. I don't know what towing a load may or may not do to the fox chassis, do any of you guys know if towing can twist the frame? Either way, keep it in the back of your mind... especially before you weld in subframe connectors. John __________________ 1991 GT Vert- Black/Black/Black Exhaust, Tremec, Tri-Ax, Centerforce Dual Friction, 3.73's, Rear Seat Delete MM Road & Track Kit PBR 5-Lug Brakes Cobra R's w/ 255 Rubber Rice Hater's Club #60

04-11-2002, 12:30 PM	#8
gtsr515 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sunny, Hot, Sebring, Florida Posts: 725	Well, crawl under there and check out the bushings, also it could be with the sway bars, are the links and bushings good? Check out the torque boxes, tire pressures, put the battery in the back, also maybe the springs were installed wrong, on some kits it DOES matter where each spring goes. Take a good look at the K-member too. __________________ Remember...2nd place is 1st place for losers!

04-12-2002, 06:53 AM	#9
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	Welcome to the club, this is a very common thing in mustangs, I replaced my whole rear suspension even went back to stock springs once to try and figure it out, but still the infamous squat was still there, clean title, never wrecked, bumped or anything, go figure. The strange thing is I only have it on the notch and the notch is the only one I drive hard, it could be due to hard driving and racing a lot but who knows? Let us all know when you figure it out, if you do. __________________

04-15-2002, 09:52 AM	#11
xspeed02 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 119	Does anyone know if this could be the problem? A torn torque box? __________________ xspeed02 1990 Black Mustang GT 5spd

04-15-2002, 09:57 AM	#12
JohnnyG Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 105	Yes, that is definitely a problem... the torque box is where the rear lower control arms attach to the chassis. With a weakened joint at the chassis, your control arm cannot effectively function. You should have that torque box at least re-welded, if not re-inforced with a product like Wild Ride's Battle Boxes... before it becomes a more extensive problem. John __________________ 1991 GT Vert- Black/Black/Black Exhaust, Tremec, Tri-Ax, Centerforce Dual Friction, 3.73's, Rear Seat Delete MM Road & Track Kit PBR 5-Lug Brakes Cobra R's w/ 255 Rubber Rice Hater's Club #60

04-15-2002, 12:11 PM	#13
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	I would bet money that your springs are installed wrong. The ends of the springs have to be pointing the same way on the front and rear or it will sit unlevel. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

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