Poll for what should I buy next?

Ackbar00 · 10-02-2002, 09:04 PM

This is my first time with a poll so, I need everybodys input. In case you did not read my post in the Street Racers Corner, my car just belted out 298HP and 324TRQ to the wheels. Being how that is never enough, I need YOUR opnion on what I should buy next. Lets just say that any of the 3 power machines will make me happy for a long time. The car will see a fair amount of street and track use. I will trade all out track times for MPH times. So let me know what you guys (and chicks

) think I should get.

fiveohpatrol · 10-02-2002, 11:32 PM

If its not a daily driver, then I'd go with the turbo setup.

If it is a daily driver, then I'd go with a centrifugal blower, either Novi 2000, or Vortech S-trim. The kenne belle blowers make boost instantly and they make it very hard to get any kind of traction on the street.

btw, you are making some pretty good numbers with the stock cam and edelbrock heads. Are the heads ported at all?

gofastmercury · 10-02-2002, 11:40 PM

Just a thought, 12.9 @ 109?? Maybe you should get some traction. That mph should be good for very low 12's, like 12 flat.
I'd go turbo, Just because I think there neet.

429mustang · 10-03-2002, 12:15 AM

TWIN TURBO

everybody's got a supercharger, plus you'll get more out of a good turbo setup.

Ackbar00 · 10-03-2002, 05:25 AM

The car is not daily drvien. Although I drive it a fair amount in good weather. I got some ET Streets to cure the traction issue, but my track races on Thursdays and its going to rain for third straight week. Do not want a centrifugal blower, everbody has one. Thought about a Twin setup, but it looks awfully had to do any work on the car once it is in place. fiveohpatrol, the heads are stage 1 ported by Fox Lake. It is also a full weight GT.

lx mike · 10-03-2002, 06:35 AM

What about nitrous?? 150 shot will put that thing in the 11's!

Ackbar00 · 10-03-2002, 06:44 AM

Nope, have to refill the bottle. I am Lazy.

302 LX Eric · 10-03-2002, 08:13 AM

My quick comments...

1) I would be leary putting a turbo or blowzilla on a stock bottom end that's already making 300 rwhp or ~360 at the crank. IMO you'll put alot of money into the turbo/blower/fuel system and then break something.

2) A 408 would make a ton of power and would be unique. Plus a new 408 would be reliable power for many years.

3) I'm not sure what kind of clutch, tranny, axles, rear-end you've got...but consider these in your decision as well. All that power could easily destroy a T-5 or stock axles with ET Streets on them.

Just some thoughts.

E

Ackbar00 · 10-03-2002, 09:27 AM

The T-5 is the weak point in my current setup. Whatever I get I may not have the money to upgrade the tranny at that time. I was leaning towards the 408, but there are a lot of things you have to change in order to make it work. The guy i talked to at Turbo Technology told me that the street kit would be fine on my bottem end as log as i left the boost at the "stock" setting. If i got a blower motor, I would someday get a new short block. Kenne Bell also advertises that it would be fine on a stock bottom end. So, thats why i started this pool. To get as many different opnions as i could

302 LX Eric · 10-03-2002, 09:35 AM

That's cool. I see where you're coming from.

If you keep the boost down, you would probably be ok for a while.

Take it easy,
E

Ackbar00 · 10-03-2002, 02:32 PM

I would hope that it would be ok for a while. But than again, its only money

ultraflo · 10-03-2002, 02:53 PM

I went for the 408... build a stout bottom end and solid driveline and THEN put a turbo kit to it

JMO...

I would've said "get a nitrous kit," but that's already been addressed

Whatever you choose... having power and being able to put that power to the pavement are two different scenarios, keep in mind... the guy that makes X amount of HP more than the next guy who has a solid combo, doesn't always make it to the end of the track first (or to the next stoplight)

I'd address the trans., driveshaft, suspension, and rear end.... before putting more power to it than the car can handle

Ackbar00 · 10-03-2002, 03:02 PM

Ultraflo, What is your bottom end. I know its a 351 block, but whice one are you using and what did you pay for your short block? Also, what turbo kit are you using for a 351? Everything has been addressed except for the T-5.

JaxTheDJ · 10-03-2002, 03:05 PM

If you get those 60's down you will find the speed you want,First I would get battle boxes for the torque box,then a good set of aftermarket uppers and lowers with poly or solid mounts,move the battery to the trunk and THEN work on the supercharger setup,no matter how much power you make,ya gotta put it to the wheels. my .02

ultraflo · 10-03-2002, 03:15 PM

...VERY poor phrasing on my part! I VOTED for the 408...

I use the block that came with my '93 from the factory... it's been prep'd and girdled, bored to a 306 and I spray the crap out of it with a 200hp single nozzle wet kit (NX)

My apologies sir

...if I had a 408 and a turbo I had better be running in the 7 second range in the 1/4mile!!!!!!!

An early, seasoned 351 block or one of the Sportsman 351 blocks avail. from Ford Racing would be fine candidates for a 408 stroker motor... bolt up a street turbo kit and hold on to your shorts!

A Tremec TKO would be a good investment for street use... pro-shifted if you plan on getting the most out of the combo on the drag strip. I'm partial to the Jerico DR4 unit, however

...you have to re-learn how to drive with one on the street.

Ackbar00 · 10-03-2002, 05:50 PM

JaxTheDJ, Have battle boxs, HPM upper and lower. Also have an Eaton Diff. with 31 spline axles, Motorsport driveshaft and battery is in the hatch. My current 60 ft's SUCK because 17 In. Drag Radials dont work that great at the track. Hopefully me ET Streets will solve the traction issue.

ultraflo, Sorry about that, Sounds like your combo gets it! A Tremec TKO is in the future or mabey a T-56.

87gt17815 · 10-03-2002, 07:20 PM

Hey not to mess up your train of thought but how about a cam??? If i was right that you said you have a stock cam?? Well in your case you could probobly get 50 or more horse with a custom cam. But if your trying to make power with a stock cam for a reason then ignore this. I have a friend for some reason who wants to go 12.50 with a stock throttlebody.

Ackbar00 · 10-03-2002, 08:07 PM

A friend of mine went 11.90's with the stock TB(but had a different cam in it). I will get a cam, but dont want to get one till I know what to get. Cause blowers, are different from turbos, are different from big windsors.... Etc.

10-02-2002, 09:04 PM	#1
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	Poll for what should I buy next? This is my first time with a poll so, I need everybodys input. In case you did not read my post in the Street Racers Corner, my car just belted out 298HP and 324TRQ to the wheels. Being how that is never enough, I need YOUR opnion on what I should buy next. Lets just say that any of the 3 power machines will make me happy for a long time. The car will see a fair amount of street and track use. I will trade all out track times for MPH times. So let me know what you guys (and chicks ) think I should get. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

10-02-2002, 11:32 PM	#2
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	If its not a daily driver, then I'd go with the turbo setup. If it is a daily driver, then I'd go with a centrifugal blower, either Novi 2000, or Vortech S-trim. The kenne belle blowers make boost instantly and they make it very hard to get any kind of traction on the street. btw, you are making some pretty good numbers with the stock cam and edelbrock heads. Are the heads ported at all? __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

10-02-2002, 11:40 PM	#3
gofastmercury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 366	Just a thought, 12.9 @ 109?? Maybe you should get some traction. That mph should be good for very low 12's, like 12 flat. I'd go turbo, Just because I think there neet. __________________ 93LXcopcarSOLD14.3@96 @ 4500ft 2.02 60ft on street tires. my 67 ranchero NOT A 390 ANY MORE! 460! 3.70's cast manifolds, comp cams 262H, performer, 750DP 100K out of 79 F250 NEW(oct20/02)14.58@95mph 2.3 60 ft corrects to:13.86@100 66 merc comet351w, isky roller 600 lift 268/260@.050, vic jr. 700DP, 5000stall, 4.56's c-4, 3400lbs with driver 12.3@110 @ 4000ft 1.69 60 ft corrects to:11.69@115

10-03-2002, 12:15 AM	#4
429mustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: westerville, OH USA Posts: 618	TWIN TURBO everybody's got a supercharger, plus you'll get more out of a good turbo setup. __________________ 1990 Notchback: BBK Ceramic Coated Full length headers, Dr. Gas 3"- 2 1/2" x-pipe, Flowmaster 40's/turndowns.

10-03-2002, 05:25 AM	#5
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	The car is not daily drvien. Although I drive it a fair amount in good weather. I got some ET Streets to cure the traction issue, but my track races on Thursdays and its going to rain for third straight week. Do not want a centrifugal blower, everbody has one. Thought about a Twin setup, but it looks awfully had to do any work on the car once it is in place. fiveohpatrol, the heads are stage 1 ported by Fox Lake. It is also a full weight GT. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

10-03-2002, 06:35 AM	#6
lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	What about nitrous?? 150 shot will put that thing in the 11's! __________________ Rice Haters Club Member #101

10-03-2002, 06:44 AM	#7
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	Nope, have to refill the bottle. I am Lazy. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

10-03-2002, 08:13 AM	#8
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	My quick comments... 1) I would be leary putting a turbo or blowzilla on a stock bottom end that's already making 300 rwhp or ~360 at the crank. IMO you'll put alot of money into the turbo/blower/fuel system and then break something. 2) A 408 would make a ton of power and would be unique. Plus a new 408 would be reliable power for many years. 3) I'm not sure what kind of clutch, tranny, axles, rear-end you've got...but consider these in your decision as well. All that power could easily destroy a T-5 or stock axles with ET Streets on them. Just some thoughts. E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

10-03-2002, 09:27 AM	#9
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	The T-5 is the weak point in my current setup. Whatever I get I may not have the money to upgrade the tranny at that time. I was leaning towards the 408, but there are a lot of things you have to change in order to make it work. The guy i talked to at Turbo Technology told me that the street kit would be fine on my bottem end as log as i left the boost at the "stock" setting. If i got a blower motor, I would someday get a new short block. Kenne Bell also advertises that it would be fine on a stock bottom end. So, thats why i started this pool. To get as many different opnions as i could __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

10-03-2002, 09:35 AM	#10
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	That's cool. I see where you're coming from. If you keep the boost down, you would probably be ok for a while. Take it easy, E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

10-03-2002, 02:32 PM	#11
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	I would hope that it would be ok for a while. But than again, its only money __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

10-03-2002, 02:53 PM	#12
ultraflo NX dealer-man Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Peoria, Illinois Posts: 977	I went for the 408... build a stout bottom end and solid driveline and THEN put a turbo kit to it JMO... I would've said "get a nitrous kit," but that's already been addressed Whatever you choose... having power and being able to put that power to the pavement are two different scenarios, keep in mind... the guy that makes X amount of HP more than the next guy who has a solid combo, doesn't always make it to the end of the track first (or to the next stoplight) I'd address the trans., driveshaft, suspension, and rear end.... before putting more power to it than the car can handle __________________ RLS Racing! 93 LX 9.20 @ 147mph 03 Mach 1 12.39 @ 116mph

10-03-2002, 03:02 PM	#13
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	Ultraflo, What is your bottom end. I know its a 351 block, but whice one are you using and what did you pay for your short block? Also, what turbo kit are you using for a 351? Everything has been addressed except for the T-5. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

10-03-2002, 03:05 PM	#14
JaxTheDJ Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Jacksonville,Fla. Posts: 134	If you get those 60's down you will find the speed you want,First I would get battle boxes for the torque box,then a good set of aftermarket uppers and lowers with poly or solid mounts,move the battery to the trunk and THEN work on the supercharger setup,no matter how much power you make,ya gotta put it to the wheels. my .02 __________________ Jack 1989 Mustang LX: Converted to Carb.650 AED Holley DP,Weiand Stealth Intake,Edelbrock Performer RPM Aluminum Heads,Hooker Super Comps, Ground Pounder Uppers and Lowers,Moroso Drag Springs,NEW COMP Xtreme Energy Cam and 1.6 RR. ,a few other goodies.*** New 1/4 times-12.50 1987 SC GT ( fast as hell) 2001 Powerstroke Tow Vehicle 1989 Coupe. Sometimes when you cry,no one sees your tears.......... Sometimes when you are happy,no one sees your smile......... But,FART just ONE time..........

10-03-2002, 03:15 PM	#15
ultraflo NX dealer-man Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Peoria, Illinois Posts: 977	I hate it when I do that.... ...VERY poor phrasing on my part! I VOTED for the 408... I use the block that came with my '93 from the factory... it's been prep'd and girdled, bored to a 306 and I spray the crap out of it with a 200hp single nozzle wet kit (NX) My apologies sir ...if I had a 408 and a turbo I had better be running in the 7 second range in the 1/4mile!!!!!!! An early, seasoned 351 block or one of the Sportsman 351 blocks avail. from Ford Racing would be fine candidates for a 408 stroker motor... bolt up a street turbo kit and hold on to your shorts! A Tremec TKO would be a good investment for street use... pro-shifted if you plan on getting the most out of the combo on the drag strip. I'm partial to the Jerico DR4 unit, however ...you have to re-learn how to drive with one on the street. __________________ RLS Racing! 93 LX 9.20 @ 147mph 03 Mach 1 12.39 @ 116mph Last edited by ultraflo; 10-03-2002 at 03:20 PM..

10-03-2002, 05:50 PM	#16
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	JaxTheDJ, Have battle boxs, HPM upper and lower. Also have an Eaton Diff. with 31 spline axles, Motorsport driveshaft and battery is in the hatch. My current 60 ft's SUCK because 17 In. Drag Radials dont work that great at the track. Hopefully me ET Streets will solve the traction issue. ultraflo, Sorry about that, Sounds like your combo gets it! A Tremec TKO is in the future or mabey a T-56. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

10-03-2002, 07:20 PM	#17
87gt17815 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bloomsburg,PA Posts: 34	Hey not to mess up your train of thought but how about a cam??? If i was right that you said you have a stock cam?? Well in your case you could probobly get 50 or more horse with a custom cam. But if your trying to make power with a stock cam for a reason then ignore this. I have a friend for some reason who wants to go 12.50 with a stock throttlebody.

10-03-2002, 08:07 PM	#18
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	A friend of mine went 11.90's with the stock TB(but had a different cam in it). I will get a cam, but dont want to get one till I know what to get. Cause blowers, are different from turbos, are different from big windsors.... Etc. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

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