Just a little more bass.

Dark_5.0 · 08-15-2002, 03:36 PM

My cobra has the mach 460 sound system with the 6 disc in dash cd changer. It sounds good but it needs just a little more thump.

Weight is also a consideration since the cobra is my weekend LS-1 killer.

I was thinking of a 10" woofer in a sealed box with a 400 watt amp. I have an old punch 200 amp which puts out 400 watts rms laying around so I will use it.

I was thinking of a JL audio w6 10" woofer.

What do you think.

Shelby428cj · 08-15-2002, 05:29 PM

I would recommend a kicker comp. VR-10" it would take up about the same amount of space as the JL, less than a cubic foot, but the kicker will sound better and a lot louder. If you can afford it get a fiberglass box custom built at a stereo shop or on your own if you know how. It will be a whole lot lighter!!!! It should run about $200.00 to get one built, depending where you live.

Hope this helps some!!!!!!!
See ya,
Karen

Dark_5.0 · 08-15-2002, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shelby428cj
I would recommend a kicker comp. VR-10" it would take up about the same amount of space as the JL, less than a cubic foot, but the kicker will sound better and a lot louder. If you can afford it get a fiberglass box custom built at a stereo shop or on your own if you know how. It will be a whole lot lighter!!!! It should run about $200.00 to get one built, depending where you live.

Hope this helps some!!!!!!!
See ya,
Karen

Kicker vr 10 louder than a JL audio W6..............I dont know about that, I will look into it though.

Thanks

LxMustangRacer · 08-15-2002, 10:07 PM

Kicker a lot better? I havn't listened to both side by side to compare sheer volume, but I prefer the sound of w6's to kickers. Myself I have 3 10" w3's hooked up to a 600watt amp in my stang that provides adequate bass. So my prefrence is for the w6, but I'd say to go listen to any subs you're interested in.

Shelby428cj · 08-15-2002, 11:44 PM

Dark if you like the JL keep them they are still good subs, I would definately check into that fiberglass box though it is gonna not weigh near as much!!!!!!!
See ya,
Karen

rppngears · 08-20-2002, 08:05 AM

I think the jl audio w-6 is equivalent to a solobaric, with the solobaric being somewhat tighter sounding. A w-6 is definitely louder than a kicker comp. Although, I don't know where your going to get a w-6, they stopped making them over a year ago. Soon the w-7 will be out but it is going to cost like 2-3 times what a w-6 costed.
Also if you're only going with a 10" and are not satisfied by the stock mach system, perhaps you should go with a ported box. JL subs work very well with a port and you get an extra 3db which translates into the equivalent of having a second 10" sub.

Shelby428cj · 08-20-2002, 01:04 PM

In my shop we have a display truck (extended cab dodge ram) that has 3 15" kicker L7's and we have ZR1000 hooked up to coil of the sub heehee that is 2400 watts to each sub. And is hitting 158.3 db. So, I am a huge kicker fan, not to say JL is bad I like them too and they are a little cheaper.

tireburner163 · 08-20-2002, 10:33 PM

1) You can still get W6's, in fact they are redesigning them. A W7 with less power handleing

2) the W7 and been out for a while now

3) the L7 sounds like ***, it will pound, but sucks for SQ

4) the W6 is better than the VR. The VR is more along the lines of the W3.

tireburner163 · 08-20-2002, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shelby428cj
but the kicker will sound better and a lot louder.
Karen

Let me guess....your shop sells kicker.

no dis, I run Kicker

Shelby428cj · 08-23-2002, 12:50 AM

Yup we sure do plus I am from Oklahoma ya know kicker = Stillwater designs heeeheee they are made in Oklahoma! But really I have never seen a sub handle as much power as they do! Yah the are LOUD but I think they sound pretty good for as loud as they are..... We also sale JL and some others too... I am not that huge of a kicker fan, well for SPL I am but in my car which is an SQ car for contests, I use 2 12" Xtant X series subs and amps....

Drewkeen · 08-25-2002, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shelby428cj
But really I have never seen a sub handle as much power as they do!

www.ddaudio.com

digital designs subwoofers, they are rated at over 2000 watts music and can handle even more, they also sound pretty good if you want sq and not all out spl.

Shelby428cj · 08-25-2002, 11:39 AM

Cool I gonna check those out Drewkeen! Do you have these in your car??? If not what do you have?

See Ya,
Karen

Drewkeen · 08-25-2002, 01:09 PM

i have a buddy with a dd9512 in his car...its loder than nearly all systems around here, even louder than one guy with 3 15's. i am waiting on an image dynamics idmax10 dual 4 ohm to come off back order, until i get that in, i am putting in an eclipse sub this week, also a 10 in a small sealed box (these two both work best in these, ideal for a stang). i have a rockford bd1000.1 to power them and ill have more detials within the next week or so as i begin installing them with a friend thats a professional.

Shelby428cj · 08-25-2002, 01:17 PM

I own a stereo shop and I use my 99 stang for a SQ car at contests. I have 2 12" Xtant subs and 3 Xtant X series amps and for mids I am running boston acoustic..... I am gonna have some info. sent to my shop about those digital designs. Thanks for the link.... Do you or any of your friends do stereo contests???

See Ya,
Karen

Drewkeen · 08-26-2002, 05:52 PM

i dont because i just enjoy the bass, i have a friend that does, but he does spl contests and uses that dd9512 and does pretty well, im not sure what hes hitting, ill ask hi mnext time i think of it. if you like sq, thenm check in to image dynamics, theyre supposed to be the best subs around for sq according to several tests and people that have used/heared them at termpro.com

oh, forgot to say this, im still waiting on my sub to come off backorder, ill let you know how it is when i get ti put in.

Dark_5.0 · 08-26-2002, 05:55 PM

I know I guy that has 2 Digital designs 15's in his dodge ram. He has 2 kicker 1000 watt amps pushin them.

They are made out of kevlar.......Very loud.

Later,

Drewkeen · 08-26-2002, 06:04 PM

hes barely pushing them, my buddy is running in the neighborhood of 2200 RMS watts, those subs can handle unbelieveable amounts of power.

Shelby428cj · 08-26-2002, 06:06 PM

Yah I carry image dynamics and I like them but I think I like the xtants a little better. Yah I would like to know what your friend is hitting. We have a guy we installed a 12" Kicker L7 and it is in a little 4 door tracker and he is hitting 148.2 db which is pretty good for one sub. Talk to ya later.

Karen

PonyPride · 08-27-2002, 04:25 PM

Ive got 2 12" JL12-w6's in my stang being pushed by 2 kenwood 600w 829s amps, they are louder than most anything ive ever heard. I dont know how u could want something louder unless its for competition only

Shelby428cj · 08-30-2002, 05:46 PM

HEEHEE Pony that is like telling drag racers that there is such a thing as a mustang being too fast!!!!!

The Louder the better right Dark 5.0?!!!!!??!?!!!!???

See Ya,
Karen

08-15-2002, 03:36 PM	#1
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Just a little more bass. My cobra has the mach 460 sound system with the 6 disc in dash cd changer. It sounds good but it needs just a little more thump. Weight is also a consideration since the cobra is my weekend LS-1 killer. I was thinking of a 10" woofer in a sealed box with a 400 watt amp. I have an old punch 200 amp which puts out 400 watts rms laying around so I will use it. I was thinking of a JL audio w6 10" woofer. What do you think. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

08-15-2002, 05:29 PM	#2
Shelby428cj Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 510	I would recommend a kicker comp. VR-10" it would take up about the same amount of space as the JL, less than a cubic foot, but the kicker will sound better and a lot louder. If you can afford it get a fiberglass box custom built at a stereo shop or on your own if you know how. It will be a whole lot lighter!!!! It should run about $200.00 to get one built, depending where you live. Hope this helps some!!!!!!! See ya, Karen __________________ Karen Wells, Moderator The Mustang Works Magazine http://www.mustangworks.com 1969 Mustang (Project Rice Eater) 1999 Silver Mustang Saleen S281 (SQ car for stereo contests) SQ Goddess My Stereo Bro "tireburner163"

08-15-2002, 11:44 PM	#5
Shelby428cj Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 510	Dark if you like the JL keep them they are still good subs, I would definately check into that fiberglass box though it is gonna not weigh near as much!!!!!!! See ya, Karen __________________ Karen Wells, Moderator The Mustang Works Magazine http://www.mustangworks.com 1969 Mustang (Project Rice Eater) 1999 Silver Mustang Saleen S281 (SQ car for stereo contests) SQ Goddess My Stereo Bro "tireburner163"

08-20-2002, 08:05 AM	#6
rppngears Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 51	I think the jl audio w-6 is equivalent to a solobaric, with the solobaric being somewhat tighter sounding. A w-6 is definitely louder than a kicker comp. Although, I don't know where your going to get a w-6, they stopped making them over a year ago. Soon the w-7 will be out but it is going to cost like 2-3 times what a w-6 costed. Also if you're only going with a 10" and are not satisfied by the stock mach system, perhaps you should go with a ported box. JL subs work very well with a port and you get an extra 3db which translates into the equivalent of having a second 10" sub. __________________ '91 MUSTANG LX 5.0. Flowmaster Catback Exhaust, In Fender K&N air intake, timing advancement, high voltage coil, pheonix gold/kicker stereo, pro 5.0 shifter.

08-20-2002, 01:04 PM	#7
Shelby428cj Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 510	In my shop we have a display truck (extended cab dodge ram) that has 3 15" kicker L7's and we have ZR1000 hooked up to coil of the sub heehee that is 2400 watts to each sub. And is hitting 158.3 db. So, I am a huge kicker fan, not to say JL is bad I like them too and they are a little cheaper. __________________ Karen Wells, Moderator The Mustang Works Magazine http://www.mustangworks.com 1969 Mustang (Project Rice Eater) 1999 Silver Mustang Saleen S281 (SQ car for stereo contests) SQ Goddess My Stereo Bro "tireburner163"

08-15-2002, 10:07 PM	#4
LxMustangRacer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Allendale, Mi Posts: 137	Kicker a lot better? I havn't listened to both side by side to compare sheer volume, but I prefer the sound of w6's to kickers. Myself I have 3 10" w3's hooked up to a 600watt amp in my stang that provides adequate bass. So my prefrence is for the w6, but I'd say to go listen to any subs you're interested in.

08-20-2002, 10:33 PM	#8
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	1) You can still get W6's, in fact they are redesigning them. A W7 with less power handleing 2) the W7 and been out for a while now 3) the L7 sounds like ***, it will pound, but sucks for SQ 4) the W6 is better than the VR. The VR is more along the lines of the W3. __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

08-23-2002, 12:50 AM	#10
Shelby428cj Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 510	Yup we sure do plus I am from Oklahoma ya know kicker = Stillwater designs heeeheee they are made in Oklahoma! But really I have never seen a sub handle as much power as they do! Yah the are LOUD but I think they sound pretty good for as loud as they are..... We also sale JL and some others too... I am not that huge of a kicker fan, well for SPL I am but in my car which is an SQ car for contests, I use 2 12" Xtant X series subs and amps.... __________________ Karen Wells, Moderator The Mustang Works Magazine http://www.mustangworks.com 1969 Mustang (Project Rice Eater) 1999 Silver Mustang Saleen S281 (SQ car for stereo contests) SQ Goddess My Stereo Bro "tireburner163"

08-25-2002, 11:39 AM	#12
Shelby428cj Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 510	Cool I gonna check those out Drewkeen! Do you have these in your car??? If not what do you have? See Ya, Karen __________________ Karen Wells, Moderator The Mustang Works Magazine http://www.mustangworks.com 1969 Mustang (Project Rice Eater) 1999 Silver Mustang Saleen S281 (SQ car for stereo contests) SQ Goddess My Stereo Bro "tireburner163"

08-25-2002, 01:09 PM	#13
Drewkeen Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: conyers, ga Posts: 52	i have a buddy with a dd9512 in his car...its loder than nearly all systems around here, even louder than one guy with 3 15's. i am waiting on an image dynamics idmax10 dual 4 ohm to come off back order, until i get that in, i am putting in an eclipse sub this week, also a 10 in a small sealed box (these two both work best in these, ideal for a stang). i have a rockford bd1000.1 to power them and ill have more detials within the next week or so as i begin installing them with a friend thats a professional. __________________ black on black 96 cobra #2593 Rice Hater's Club #54

08-25-2002, 01:17 PM	#14
Shelby428cj Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 510	I own a stereo shop and I use my 99 stang for a SQ car at contests. I have 2 12" Xtant subs and 3 Xtant X series amps and for mids I am running boston acoustic..... I am gonna have some info. sent to my shop about those digital designs. Thanks for the link.... Do you or any of your friends do stereo contests??? See Ya, Karen __________________ Karen Wells, Moderator The Mustang Works Magazine http://www.mustangworks.com 1969 Mustang (Project Rice Eater) 1999 Silver Mustang Saleen S281 (SQ car for stereo contests) SQ Goddess My Stereo Bro "tireburner163"

08-26-2002, 05:52 PM	#15
Drewkeen Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: conyers, ga Posts: 52	i dont because i just enjoy the bass, i have a friend that does, but he does spl contests and uses that dd9512 and does pretty well, im not sure what hes hitting, ill ask hi mnext time i think of it. if you like sq, thenm check in to image dynamics, theyre supposed to be the best subs around for sq according to several tests and people that have used/heared them at termpro.com oh, forgot to say this, im still waiting on my sub to come off backorder, ill let you know how it is when i get ti put in. __________________ black on black 96 cobra #2593 Rice Hater's Club #54

08-26-2002, 05:55 PM	#16
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	I know I guy that has 2 Digital designs 15's in his dodge ram. He has 2 kicker 1000 watt amps pushin them. They are made out of kevlar.......Very loud. Later, __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

08-26-2002, 06:04 PM	#17
Drewkeen Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: conyers, ga Posts: 52	hes barely pushing them, my buddy is running in the neighborhood of 2200 RMS watts, those subs can handle unbelieveable amounts of power. __________________ black on black 96 cobra #2593 Rice Hater's Club #54

08-26-2002, 06:06 PM	#18
Shelby428cj Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 510	Yah I carry image dynamics and I like them but I think I like the xtants a little better. Yah I would like to know what your friend is hitting. We have a guy we installed a 12" Kicker L7 and it is in a little 4 door tracker and he is hitting 148.2 db which is pretty good for one sub. Talk to ya later. Karen __________________ Karen Wells, Moderator The Mustang Works Magazine http://www.mustangworks.com 1969 Mustang (Project Rice Eater) 1999 Silver Mustang Saleen S281 (SQ car for stereo contests) SQ Goddess My Stereo Bro "tireburner163"

08-27-2002, 04:25 PM	#19
PonyPride Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 23	JL Ive got 2 12" JL12-w6's in my stang being pushed by 2 kenwood 600w 829s amps, they are louder than most anything ive ever heard. I dont know how u could want something louder unless its for competition only

08-30-2002, 05:46 PM	#20
Shelby428cj Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 510	HEEHEE Pony that is like telling drag racers that there is such a thing as a mustang being too fast!!!!! The Louder the better right Dark 5.0?!!!!!??!?!!!!??? See Ya, Karen __________________ Karen Wells, Moderator The Mustang Works Magazine http://www.mustangworks.com 1969 Mustang (Project Rice Eater) 1999 Silver Mustang Saleen S281 (SQ car for stereo contests) SQ Goddess My Stereo Bro "tireburner163"

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
I need help...	Kamaro Killer	Audio, Security, & Electronics	5	09-09-2002 08:49 PM
Bass Problems	Mikes02Stang	Modular Madness	1	07-26-2002 08:35 AM
Car Audio 101	Fox Body	Audio, Security, & Electronics	9	07-25-2001 04:58 PM
What kind of Bass Speaker box to use...	NYC1	Audio, Security, & Electronics	0	07-06-2001 10:33 AM
Bass in stang convertible	taurus3298	Blue Oval Lounge	6	06-29-2001 11:47 AM