Belt Length & A/C Eliminator Kit for Dummies

lxfiveoh · 04-21-2002, 11:10 PM

Hello everyone!

Well, for the time being, I went with the Ford A/C eliminator kit and kept the P/S. First, let me say that THE A/C ELIMINATOR KIT SHOULD COME WITH iNSTRUCTIONS!!!! At least mine did not!

I used the exploded view in the shop manual to go by, but with all those little parts and arrows and bolts, it was tough to figure out exactly what went where. It seemed to me that I had to remove the pulley. This REALLY frustrated me, and I even bought a pulley removal tool and attempted to remove the pulley
(unsuccessfully) before further study of the diagram resulted in the enlightenment!

For those of you considering this route, IT IS REALLY MUCH EASIER
THAN I MADE IT OUT TO BE!

Anyway, back to my inquiry.

As a baseline to start from, could someone out there with a similar setup tell me what belt length they are using?

My setup is as follows:
ALT, CRANK, WP, P/S, tensioner
I don't have the smog pump or the A/C anymore.
((I know, I'm taking the lazy internet way to find out))
:-)

Also, during my ordeal, I pumped some (most?) of the fluid from the P/S resevoir and unhooked the two lines from the pump. Of course, only after the 'enlightenment' did I realize I never needed
to do this, but.....I reconnected everything and refilled the resevoir. I have NOT started the car yet.

Have I screwed up? Is there anything I can do before starting it to avoid getting air in the P/S system?

Thanks for any help, suggestions, tips, humorous comments!

lxfiveoh · 04-22-2002, 12:11 AM

Of course, I used the *search* feature AFTER I posted my
questions.

Any answers would still be appreciated, though!

Thank you, MustangWorks!

fast88 · 04-22-2002, 12:55 PM

I did the same but retained my smog because I still have cats.The belt was 84",so here is what ya do takethe legth of the stock belt and subtract the length of the belt you used to just bypass the smog .Then take that length and subtract from 84" and that should be it .Let me know because I plan on deleting my smog when I get a off-road h-pipe.Thanks!

fiveohpatrol · 07-03-2002, 06:31 PM

so what size belt did you end up going with? and could you post some pictures or explanation of how it goes on so i dont have to go through the frustrations that you did

fast88 · 07-03-2002, 08:04 PM

I just removed my smog too and as stated before my a/c has been gone I used a 725k6 belt from autozone.Irouted the belt from the p/s to the w/p and then down to the crank and back up to the alt.I have a 3g alt. so there maybe some difference!I broke the locating pin off the tensioner so I could get it where I wanted it.

Ieatcamaros · 07-03-2002, 09:43 PM

go here for short belt routing

This should help you out.

drudis · 07-04-2002, 09:35 AM

I had a little more trouble as I did it with an S-trim...
See my photos here at this link: http://www.dariusrudis.com/mustang/power_steering

fiveohpatrol · 07-04-2002, 12:25 PM

drudis, do you have any pictures of the FMS ps brackets installed without the ps pump on there? Or am I actually gonna have to think a little bit to get this on there

fiveohpatrol · 07-04-2002, 02:02 PM

Nevermind, I got it on there. The Haynes manual was actually usefull for once

04-21-2002, 11:10 PM	#1
lxfiveoh Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 54	Belt Length & A/C Eliminator Kit for Dummies Hello everyone! Well, for the time being, I went with the Ford A/C eliminator kit and kept the P/S. First, let me say that THE A/C ELIMINATOR KIT SHOULD COME WITH iNSTRUCTIONS!!!! At least mine did not! I used the exploded view in the shop manual to go by, but with all those little parts and arrows and bolts, it was tough to figure out exactly what went where. It seemed to me that I had to remove the pulley. This REALLY frustrated me, and I even bought a pulley removal tool and attempted to remove the pulley (unsuccessfully) before further study of the diagram resulted in the enlightenment! For those of you considering this route, IT IS REALLY MUCH EASIER THAN I MADE IT OUT TO BE! Anyway, back to my inquiry. As a baseline to start from, could someone out there with a similar setup tell me what belt length they are using? My setup is as follows: ALT, CRANK, WP, P/S, tensioner I don't have the smog pump or the A/C anymore. ((I know, I'm taking the lazy internet way to find out)) :-) Also, during my ordeal, I pumped some (most?) of the fluid from the P/S resevoir and unhooked the two lines from the pump. Of course, only after the 'enlightenment' did I realize I never needed to do this, but.....I reconnected everything and refilled the resevoir. I have NOT started the car yet. Have I screwed up? Is there anything I can do before starting it to avoid getting air in the P/S system? Thanks for any help, suggestions, tips, humorous comments! __________________ Nelson 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 http://fiveoh.homestead.com Last edited by lxfiveoh; 04-21-2002 at 11:26 PM..

04-22-2002, 12:11 AM	#2
lxfiveoh Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 54	Of course, I used the search feature AFTER I posted my questions. Any answers would still be appreciated, though! Thank you, MustangWorks! __________________ Nelson 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 http://fiveoh.homestead.com

04-22-2002, 12:55 PM	#3
fast88 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rockingham,N.C. Posts: 80	ac delete belt length I did the same but retained my smog because I still have cats.The belt was 84",so here is what ya do takethe legth of the stock belt and subtract the length of the belt you used to just bypass the smog .Then take that length and subtract from 84" and that should be it .Let me know because I plan on deleting my smog when I get a off-road h-pipe.Thanks! __________________ 88 Notchback orig. 4 cylinder car with a efi v8 swap from a wrecked 89 5.0 hatch,edelbrock performer rpm's 190/160,typhoon intake,comp cams 1.6 rockers,65mm tb and spacer,pa performance c4 w/ 3000 stall,3.73's auburn pro, 31 spline mosers,mac off road h-pipe,1 5/8 shorties ,and 2 1/2 pro dumps,kirban fpr,190 lph walbrp. SOON TO BE BLOWN!

07-03-2002, 06:31 PM	#4
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	so what size belt did you end up going with? and could you post some pictures or explanation of how it goes on so i dont have to go through the frustrations that you did __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

07-03-2002, 08:04 PM	#5
fast88 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rockingham,N.C. Posts: 80	easy as pie not! I just removed my smog too and as stated before my a/c has been gone I used a 725k6 belt from autozone.Irouted the belt from the p/s to the w/p and then down to the crank and back up to the alt.I have a 3g alt. so there maybe some difference!I broke the locating pin off the tensioner so I could get it where I wanted it. __________________ 88 Notchback orig. 4 cylinder car with a efi v8 swap from a wrecked 89 5.0 hatch,edelbrock performer rpm's 190/160,typhoon intake,comp cams 1.6 rockers,65mm tb and spacer,pa performance c4 w/ 3000 stall,3.73's auburn pro, 31 spline mosers,mac off road h-pipe,1 5/8 shorties ,and 2 1/2 pro dumps,kirban fpr,190 lph walbrp. SOON TO BE BLOWN!

07-03-2002, 09:43 PM	#6
Ieatcamaros Domestic Rice really sucks! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: KY Posts: 973	go here for short belt routing This should help you out. __________________ The sig says it all.

07-04-2002, 09:35 AM	#7
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	I had a little more trouble as I did it with an S-trim... See my photos here at this link: http://www.dariusrudis.com/mustang/power_steering __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

07-04-2002, 12:25 PM	#8
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	drudis, do you have any pictures of the FMS ps brackets installed without the ps pump on there? Or am I actually gonna have to think a little bit to get this on there __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

07-04-2002, 02:02 PM	#9
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	Nevermind, I got it on there. The Haynes manual was actually usefull for once __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

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