6lbs. of boost will = what ???

5ohCOUPE · 03-05-2003, 09:04 PM

Im still going crazy with what I want to do with my car. Ive got a little over 2 grand burning a hole in my pocket and I need to do something with my car. With the Sig I have below what will a cheap 6lb. vortech do with my 1/4 mile numbers?? Im either gonna put a little vortech on, or change the heads to AFR 165's and intake to a Performer RPM. Ive been hearing that the outcome will be about the same with either setup that I goto. Are the AFR 165's really that much better than the Windsor Jr's????? I know that I can throw the bottle on it again and run in the low 11's again but im keeping away from that very very habit forming happy gas.

Any iniput would be helpfull at this time. I really think im gonna go crazy with all of the options I have. I just want to run in the 113 MPH range on motor with a stock bottom end 302 with 165's. If that isnt possible then I guess boost it is.

lx5091 · 03-05-2003, 10:05 PM

why not go with the better long-term outcome? basically screw the SC for now and continue to build up your motor...then slap on an SC later and have the best of both worlds!

Coupe50h · 03-05-2003, 11:30 PM

I would throw on 5 lbs of a-trim, and keep the jr. heads, just port the crap out of them, after i get my gt-40's on, im saving for a charger.

then you can swap pulleys and get 8 lbs.
i think i could hit 115-118 with your combo, ported heads, and a-trim, 36lb injectors and fuel system. jmo...
good luck

88workcar · 03-05-2003, 11:35 PM

Full weight LX power seats and all.

AFR 165s, Holly systemax, stock TB, HR 266xe, 22psi mopar injectors, tremac3550, 4.10s, STOCK TB, 73mm MAF, Stock TB, Alum shaft, 26 x 10 x 15 ET streets, Nut case driver, Oh did I mention the STOCK tb, 114.7 MPH @ 12.05

Get the AFRs

mike72678 · 03-05-2003, 11:57 PM

I would get a paxton novi 1000 . $1699 at www.neweraperformanceparts.com , then you will still have a few hundred bucks left after for some other stuff as well .

Coupe50h · 03-06-2003, 12:02 AM

There is a guy around here that has a full weight lx going low 12's @ 116 with f-cam and gt-40 x heads, dont know how much more it has, but he's on the motor.
i just wouldnt upgrade heads twice, thats just me, after i got some flowing heads, id go with what you havent done yet...... poweradder.

And dang those sc's sound mean.
if i had 2 grand, id also consider a turbo, i mean if you want to trap 120+

stevstum · 03-06-2003, 12:25 AM

I know you said you do not want to go the nitros route, but you could get 200hp for around $700 for a full setup. Then get a better intake like Trick Flow or Holley. And last I would get 4.10 gears.

5ohCOUPE · 03-06-2003, 06:49 AM

Yeah, Ive had the bottle on it before (150 shot) and it ran a 11.51 @ 121. It was nice but buying that bottle 2 times a week was getting tooo expensive. Even with a friend filling it, the lowest he could go was 22 bucks a bottle. I figure I could get the AFR's and then sell the Winsor Jr's to make up some money. The same with the intakes too. And DAMN, that is a GOOD price for a Novi 1000 !!!!!!!!

Stang_Crazy · 03-06-2003, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by 5ohCOUPE
And DAMN, that is a GOOD price for a Novi 1000 !!!!!!!!

IMO, the Novi 1k is the best entry level blower on the market. With a $20 F150 crank pulley you'll see 8-9 psi

If 8-9 psi isn't enough, the little 1k can be pullied to 15 psi. Not bad for an 'entry level' supercharger. If you have any questions about either Novi (1k or 2k) check out www.novipower.com

Ackbar00 · 03-06-2003, 12:24 PM

Do what I am going to do. Get a 408 and slap all the stuff you have on it. Then you would have a solid fondation to boost from.

1995MGTS · 03-06-2003, 05:48 PM

We have similar mods, though I have GT-40Y heads and a Steeda #19 cam. Here is what 6lbs of boost/7" crank pulley/power pipe from a Powerdyne did for my car:

http://www.msnusers.com/MustangMembe...hoto&PhotoID=5

My air-fuel maxed around 11:1 on that run.

With only 6lbs of boost, no crank pulley, and no power pipe my car did this on the dyno (the first and lowest run was done prior to any tuning):

http://www.msnusers.com/MustangMembe...hoto&PhotoID=8

Not sure how well your heads flow but with a good supercharger and tune, you shouldn't have a problem putting up good numbers.

03-05-2003, 10:05 PM	#2
lx5091 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Fall River, MA Posts: 467	why not go with the better long-term outcome? basically screw the SC for now and continue to build up your motor...then slap on an SC later and have the best of both worlds! __________________ '02 Explorer XLT 4.0L --Nice Vehicle '97 Saturn SL1--Soon to be ditched for a Ford!

03-05-2003, 11:30 PM	#3
Coupe50h Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 957	I would throw on 5 lbs of a-trim, and keep the jr. heads, just port the crap out of them, after i get my gt-40's on, im saving for a charger. then you can swap pulleys and get 8 lbs. i think i could hit 115-118 with your combo, ported heads, and a-trim, 36lb injectors and fuel system. jmo... good luck __________________ X-Texas highway patrol ssp 1990 coupe - exploder Gt-40 iron heads, Explorer intake, 19 lber's. E-cam. crane 1.7 rollers. 190fp. 75mm maf. 65mm tb, tubular subframe connectors, mac cai, Asp crank pulley, T-5, king cobra clutch, flowtech 1-5/8 unequals, mac X-pipe Frpp driveshaft, lakewood Lca's. race weight 3,160 12.69 @ 107.35, 1.71 60' 26x8.5 drag's 3.90 gear 13.20 @ 106.91 - 235/60/15 firestones 2.3 60' 3.27 gear

03-05-2003, 11:35 PM	#4
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Full weight LX power seats and all. AFR 165s, Holly systemax, stock TB, HR 266xe, 22psi mopar injectors, tremac3550, 4.10s, STOCK TB, 73mm MAF, Stock TB, Alum shaft, 26 x 10 x 15 ET streets, Nut case driver, Oh did I mention the STOCK tb, 114.7 MPH @ 12.05 Get the AFRs __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

03-06-2003, 12:02 AM	#6
Coupe50h Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 957	There is a guy around here that has a full weight lx going low 12's @ 116 with f-cam and gt-40 x heads, dont know how much more it has, but he's on the motor. i just wouldnt upgrade heads twice, thats just me, after i got some flowing heads, id go with what you havent done yet...... poweradder. And dang those sc's sound mean. if i had 2 grand, id also consider a turbo, i mean if you want to trap 120+ __________________ X-Texas highway patrol ssp 1990 coupe - exploder Gt-40 iron heads, Explorer intake, 19 lber's. E-cam. crane 1.7 rollers. 190fp. 75mm maf. 65mm tb, tubular subframe connectors, mac cai, Asp crank pulley, T-5, king cobra clutch, flowtech 1-5/8 unequals, mac X-pipe Frpp driveshaft, lakewood Lca's. race weight 3,160 12.69 @ 107.35, 1.71 60' 26x8.5 drag's 3.90 gear 13.20 @ 106.91 - 235/60/15 firestones 2.3 60' 3.27 gear

03-06-2003, 12:25 AM	#7
stevstum Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Salem, Or. USA Posts: 233	I know you said you do not want to go the nitros route, but you could get 200hp for around $700 for a full setup. Then get a better intake like Trick Flow or Holley. And last I would get 4.10 gears. __________________ Steve Stumbaugh 89 LX 5.0 5sp, Removed air silencer Mac High Flow Air Filter Motorcraft 8mm wires Autolite platinum plugs Mac O/R h-pipe Flowmaster American Thunder 3:55 gears Accel Super Coil (42,000) 75 mm Mass Air Meter

03-05-2003, 09:04 PM	#1
5ohCOUPE Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ORANGE PARK FL. USA Posts: 208	6lbs. of boost will = what ??? Im still going crazy with what I want to do with my car. Ive got a little over 2 grand burning a hole in my pocket and I need to do something with my car. With the Sig I have below what will a cheap 6lb. vortech do with my 1/4 mile numbers?? Im either gonna put a little vortech on, or change the heads to AFR 165's and intake to a Performer RPM. Ive been hearing that the outcome will be about the same with either setup that I goto. Are the AFR 165's really that much better than the Windsor Jr's????? I know that I can throw the bottle on it again and run in the low 11's again but im keeping away from that very very habit forming happy gas. Any iniput would be helpfull at this time. I really think im gonna go crazy with all of the options I have. I just want to run in the 113 MPH range on motor with a stock bottom end 302 with 165's. If that isnt possible then I guess boost it is. __________________ 91 LX COUPE, 3.73 gears, 2 1/2 inch H-Pipe, 1 5/8 MAC long tube headers, 73 MM C&L MAF, 70 MM MAC TB, LUNATI cam,1.7 TFS Rockers, TFS Track Heat heads, TFS Track Heat intake, T5 with PRO 5.0 shifter, Griffin aluminum radiator, Fluid Damper, SSM traction bars, 190 GPH in tank fuel pump. And more to come.

03-05-2003, 11:57 PM	#5
mike72678 MW Link Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: rochester , ny Posts: 79	I would get a paxton novi 1000 . $1699 at www.neweraperformanceparts.com , then you will still have a few hundred bucks left after for some other stuff as well .

03-06-2003, 06:49 AM	#8
5ohCOUPE Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ORANGE PARK FL. USA Posts: 208	Yeah, Ive had the bottle on it before (150 shot) and it ran a 11.51 @ 121. It was nice but buying that bottle 2 times a week was getting tooo expensive. Even with a friend filling it, the lowest he could go was 22 bucks a bottle. I figure I could get the AFR's and then sell the Winsor Jr's to make up some money. The same with the intakes too. And DAMN, that is a GOOD price for a Novi 1000 !!!!!!!! __________________ 91 LX COUPE, 3.73 gears, 2 1/2 inch H-Pipe, 1 5/8 MAC long tube headers, 73 MM C&L MAF, 70 MM MAC TB, LUNATI cam,1.7 TFS Rockers, TFS Track Heat heads, TFS Track Heat intake, T5 with PRO 5.0 shifter, Griffin aluminum radiator, Fluid Damper, SSM traction bars, 190 GPH in tank fuel pump. And more to come.

03-06-2003, 12:24 PM	#10
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	Do what I am going to do. Get a 408 and slap all the stuff you have on it. Then you would have a solid fondation to boost from. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

03-06-2003, 05:48 PM	#11
1995MGTS Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Chesapeake, VA USA Posts: 69	We have similar mods, though I have GT-40Y heads and a Steeda #19 cam. Here is what 6lbs of boost/7" crank pulley/power pipe from a Powerdyne did for my car: http://www.msnusers.com/MustangMembe...hoto&PhotoID=5 My air-fuel maxed around 11:1 on that run. With only 6lbs of boost, no crank pulley, and no power pipe my car did this on the dyno (the first and lowest run was done prior to any tuning): http://www.msnusers.com/MustangMembe...hoto&PhotoID=8 Not sure how well your heads flow but with a good supercharger and tune, you shouldn't have a problem putting up good numbers. __________________ 2003 Redfire Cobra #5978 of 8394 -Pro-5.0 -DC cai -Steeda x-pipe w/cats -Steeda cat-back -Lightning pulley w/Afterburner 441rwhp/434rwtq SAE

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