2.3 turbos?

BLOCKER · 10-05-2002, 03:21 PM

I know this question should be in Small Ponies but this forum gets alot more traffic...

Can I take the turbo assembly off an 83 capri 2.3 RS turbo and bolt it directly on to my 87 LX 2.3 or would I have to make modifications to the wiring harnes and use the 83 computer, If I did use the 83 computer would it be compatable with the 87 EFI engine? thanks for any help in this matter.

88workcar · 10-05-2002, 05:59 PM

Take the turbo and bolt it to the 5.0, no wait, get the turbo, put it in a box and send it to me. I'll pay shipping....

BLOCKER · 10-05-2002, 06:29 PM

will the 2.3L turbo work with a 5.0L engine?
if it does could one use two of them? (hehe twin turbo?)

95mustanggt · 10-05-2002, 10:50 PM

I think a turbo 2.3L would be kinda cool. I mean I'd probably go with 5.0L, but it would be pretty cool.

BLOCKER · 10-06-2002, 01:08 PM

I thought it would be neat to have something a little different.

but I still need to know if the turbo will bolt directly on or do I also need the computer, thankx again

LayanRubr · 10-06-2002, 04:26 PM

I as well would like to know the answer to this

It would be interesting to strip a turbo out and slap it on my 5.0. Though the conversion process Id like to know more of about first.

BilLster · 10-07-2002, 10:57 PM

http://www.toohighpsi.com/index.htm
check this link out my sytem is pretty close to this but i use the ford computer and a home nm,ade box upper

BLOCKER · 10-07-2002, 11:10 PM

Thanks for the great article.

does anyone know if I need to change the 87 computer for an older turbo set up...

thanks again for all the replies.

PKRWUD · 10-08-2002, 03:18 AM

A couple years ago I had a customer with an '83 T-bird turbo, and he thought he blew the engine, so he got another t-bird turbo engine from an '87, and had me do the install.

The hardest part was all the sensors had different types of connectors, but with a little patience, in worked great. Even passed smog the first time out (that shocked me).

If you are puting a turbo into a non turbo car, you need the turbo ECM, wiring harness, and sensors. They have different values (your vacuum doesn't do the ECM much good with boost!).

From there, it's pretty straight forward.

Take care,
~Chris

This is the top end of mine:

5.0L_Of_Fury · 10-08-2002, 11:29 AM

is it a stock 2.3L? if so yeah you can put the turbo on it and have someone waiting to pick the pistons up out of the road when you leave your driveway...a stock 2.3L will not hold the boost I have one and wanted to do a turbo swap..but you cant..unless you have a turbo ready motor if your serious about a powerful small pony I know where you can buy a running turbo motor that all you have to do is put forged pistons in it and bolt on the turbo for 500 bucks...lemme know if you are interested

PKRWUD · 10-08-2002, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4cyl_Of_Fury
is it a stock 2.3L? if so yeah you can put the turbo on it and have someone waiting to pick the pistons up out of the road when you leave your driveway...a stock 2.3L will not hold the boost I have one and wanted to do a turbo swap..but you cant..unless you have a turbo ready motor

I've got to disagree on this one. Your talking going from 8.0:1 to 9.0:1, with a turbo that might make 6 pounds of boost at it's very best.

Run 93 octane, and you'll be fine with 9:1 pistons.

Take care,
~Chris

bigblockcoupe · 10-08-2002, 01:01 PM

it depends on the turbo my '86 svo made 16# of boost stock and those motors are forged throughout putting that turbo on a stock 2.3 would probably spell trouble but the 2.3 is pretty darn tuff i've had buddies put huge shots of nitrous on a 2.3 stang just trying to blow it up and even after melting half the plugs because it was lean it ran fine after replacing the plugs.

PKRWUD · 10-08-2002, 09:36 PM

Bro, I love ya like a brother, and I'm not trying to be a jerk, but there is no way in hell that a stock turbo in a SVO Mustang put out 16 pounds of boost. The fatory gauge may have said that, but they are the worst, most innacurate gauge Ford has ever used. The t-bird guy I mentioned before said his hit 12-14 pounds "all the time", and I drove it, and it did say that. When I hooked up a simple Sunpro boost gauge, however, it never went past 6, and even that was rare. 5 was more like it.

Take care,
~Chris

bigblockcoupe · 10-09-2002, 09:28 AM

I know it sounds like alot of boost but here is an article about the svo stangs look specifically at the second paragraph under technoligical innovations the svo stangs made hella boost.
http://www.mustangsvo.org/svostory.htm

Chevyguy · 10-11-2002, 12:18 PM

There was a guy in Hot rod a while ago that was using 2.3 turbo's and putting them in a Pinto and running 9's and the best part was since the turbo blocks were cast in Brazil, it qualified for the Import drags

Yup the 2.3 turbo has a totally different and quite beefy short block assy. If you got a cheap turbo setup from a similar year mustang (150 hp??) it may last for a little while.

A much more sensibile approach is to get a T-bird turbo coupe, Merkur or SVO turbo motor and swap the whole thing into your stang. The higher output (205 hp??) would be more desirable over the 150 hp version

PKRWUD · 10-12-2002, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigblockcoupe
I know it sounds like alot of boost but here is an article about the svo stangs look specifically at the second paragraph under technoligical innovations the svo stangs made hella boost.
http://www.mustangsvo.org/svostory.htm

That's unreal! Thanks for the link! My experience with 2.3 turbos is limited to t-birds and Merkurs, and their boost gauges were very inaccurate, but I guess the SVO Mustang did things differently.

Great info! Thanks again for sharing!!!

Take care,
~Chris

88workcar · 10-12-2002, 08:52 PM

I went to a junkyard today, for few small parts. I looked at a SVO turbo motor complete all in tact. He even has the car.

Shaggy · 10-13-2002, 09:58 AM

PKR i have to disagree with having to change out all the electronics. I have bolted on the 2.3 system on mass air cars and all i did for fuel enrichment was to put an FMU on it worked like a champ to #4 don't know how much more boost it will take that way though the guy wanted a nice reliable streat driver.

10-05-2002, 03:21 PM	#1
BLOCKER Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: EDMONTON, Alberta, Canada Posts: 232	2.3 turbos? I know this question should be in Small Ponies but this forum gets alot more traffic... Can I take the turbo assembly off an 83 capri 2.3 RS turbo and bolt it directly on to my 87 LX 2.3 or would I have to make modifications to the wiring harnes and use the 83 computer, If I did use the 83 computer would it be compatable with the 87 EFI engine? thanks for any help in this matter. __________________ -1988 MUSTANG COBRA GT (Canadian...eh!) -1987 Mustang LX coupe (2.3L) -1978 Harley Davidson FLH -2008 Harley Davidson Nightster 1200 -2008 Harley Davidson Night Rod Special -1997 Jaguar XK8 Convertable

10-05-2002, 05:59 PM	#2
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Take the turbo and bolt it to the 5.0, no wait, get the turbo, put it in a box and send it to me. I'll pay shipping.... __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

10-06-2002, 01:08 PM	#5
BLOCKER Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: EDMONTON, Alberta, Canada Posts: 232	I thought it would be neat to have something a little different. but I still need to know if the turbo will bolt directly on or do I also need the computer, thankx again Last edited by BLOCKER; 10-06-2002 at 01:52 PM..

10-06-2002, 04:26 PM	#6
LayanRubr Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Aggieland, Texas Posts: 297	I as well would like to know the answer to this It would be interesting to strip a turbo out and slap it on my 5.0. Though the conversion process Id like to know more of about first. __________________ 87 Mustang 5.0 (308) Notchback - The Blue Baron Rice Hater's Club member #20

10-07-2002, 10:57 PM	#7
BilLster Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ontario canada Posts: 446	http://www.toohighpsi.com/index.htm check this link out my sytem is pretty close to this but i use the ford computer and a home nm,ade box upper __________________ 89 with 331 t3'/t4 hybrids. upr Suspention worked out finnaly . 9.89 144 mph .

10-05-2002, 06:29 PM	#3
BLOCKER Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: EDMONTON, Alberta, Canada Posts: 232	will the 2.3L turbo work with a 5.0L engine? if it does could one use two of them? (hehe twin turbo?)

10-05-2002, 10:50 PM	#4
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	I think a turbo 2.3L would be kinda cool. I mean I'd probably go with 5.0L, but it would be pretty cool. __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

10-07-2002, 11:10 PM	#8
BLOCKER Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: EDMONTON, Alberta, Canada Posts: 232	Thanks for the great article. does anyone know if I need to change the 87 computer for an older turbo set up... thanks again for all the replies.

10-08-2002, 11:29 AM	#10
5.0L_Of_Fury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mayfield,KY,USA Posts: 288	is it a stock 2.3L? if so yeah you can put the turbo on it and have someone waiting to pick the pistons up out of the road when you leave your driveway...a stock 2.3L will not hold the boost I have one and wanted to do a turbo swap..but you cant..unless you have a turbo ready motor if your serious about a powerful small pony I know where you can buy a running turbo motor that all you have to do is put forged pistons in it and bolt on the turbo for 500 bucks...lemme know if you are interested __________________ OLD NAME:4cyl_Of_Fury 1990 LX 5.0 Hatchback K&N,March Ram Air,Strut Tower Brace '93LX Hatchback !FOR SALE No Substitute For Cubic Inches! BURN EM UP fivepointzero@kytnar.org "Give 'Er Hell" "They Call It Minute Rice..Gee Are Those Actually Track Times?" Firemen: We Find 'Em Hot And Leave 'Em Wet" Rice Haters Club Member #23 (GM Ricer Fads) Gotta Love Hatin 'Em CLUTCHES,FUEL PUMP RELAYS,FOUR CYLINDERS

10-08-2002, 01:01 PM	#12
bigblockcoupe Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: broken arrow Posts: 212	it depends on the turbo my '86 svo made 16# of boost stock and those motors are forged throughout putting that turbo on a stock 2.3 would probably spell trouble but the 2.3 is pretty darn tuff i've had buddies put huge shots of nitrous on a 2.3 stang just trying to blow it up and even after melting half the plugs because it was lean it ran fine after replacing the plugs. __________________ Rice Haters Club member #68 '93 Cobra 10.20@135 '89 Gt Coupe 12.20@115

10-08-2002, 09:36 PM	#13
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Bro, I love ya like a brother, and I'm not trying to be a jerk, but there is no way in hell that a stock turbo in a SVO Mustang put out 16 pounds of boost. The fatory gauge may have said that, but they are the worst, most innacurate gauge Ford has ever used. The t-bird guy I mentioned before said his hit 12-14 pounds "all the time", and I drove it, and it did say that. When I hooked up a simple Sunpro boost gauge, however, it never went past 6, and even that was rare. 5 was more like it. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

10-09-2002, 09:28 AM	#14
bigblockcoupe Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: broken arrow Posts: 212	I know it sounds like alot of boost but here is an article about the svo stangs look specifically at the second paragraph under technoligical innovations the svo stangs made hella boost. http://www.mustangsvo.org/svostory.htm __________________ Rice Haters Club member #68 '93 Cobra 10.20@135 '89 Gt Coupe 12.20@115

10-11-2002, 12:18 PM	#15
Chevyguy Backyard Mechanic/Chemist Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Acton MA USA Posts: 435	There was a guy in Hot rod a while ago that was using 2.3 turbo's and putting them in a Pinto and running 9's and the best part was since the turbo blocks were cast in Brazil, it qualified for the Import drags Yup the 2.3 turbo has a totally different and quite beefy short block assy. If you got a cheap turbo setup from a similar year mustang (150 hp??) it may last for a little while. A much more sensibile approach is to get a T-bird turbo coupe, Merkur or SVO turbo motor and swap the whole thing into your stang. The higher output (205 hp??) would be more desirable over the 150 hp version __________________ 2001 Crown Vic Maurader Airbox/MAF, DR chip Edel IAS shocks Single exhaust :wtf: 93 P-71 Vic interceptor Backup car now 90 5.0 LX Notch SOLD 74 Chevy Laguna type S-3 454 under construction Currently apart undergoing bodywork.

10-12-2002, 08:52 PM	#17
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	I went to a junkyard today, for few small parts. I looked at a SVO turbo motor complete all in tact. He even has the car. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

10-13-2002, 09:58 AM	#18
Shaggy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 466	PKR i have to disagree with having to change out all the electronics. I have bolted on the 2.3 system on mass air cars and all i did for fuel enrichment was to put an FMU on it worked like a champ to #4 don't know how much more boost it will take that way though the guy wanted a nice reliable streat driver. __________________ A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week. George S. Patton, General (1885-1945)

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