1/4 mile times

[95stang50]

I was just wondering what kind of times i SHOULD be getting. I have a 1995 GT: mac full length headers, mac off-road h-pipe, flowmaster 2chamber cat back, 3.55 gears, pro 5.0, eibach pro kit springs, mac cold air kit, pullies, bosch plugs, motorsport 9mm wires, and kumho tires on 17in steel rims. i have been to the track many times but only been able to pull a best of 15.083 at 93mph. i have been thinking about selling her and buying something newer but i love her to much and well i just want to know if there is just something wrong and just needs to be fixed. and also i would like to be running 13's or better, if i don't have enough set up already what else should i do?

[Bad89stang]

Those times sound pretty decent. Were you spinning the tires at all? With practice I would imagine you could get it into the 14's. Your car is basically still stock except for exhaust, pullies and gears.
You could slap on some Gt-40 heads, 1.7RR, and a better intake manifold and get into the 13's. Bump your timing to 14 +/- and see what you end up with.
If you are not on a budget then get some aluminum heads(or ported iron), decent cam, and a matching intake and you will be running very strong.

[mike72678]

put the stock wheels back on and you will run 14's all day long.

[Killercanary]

A 94-95 coupe 5 speed normally run 14.8-15.0 at around 92-93mph bone stock. Just some examples... my 95 GT convertible ran a 15.2 at 90mph stock, and my cousin's 94 GT ran a 14.8 at 93mph stock. With an offroad X pipe, bassani cat back, ASP aluminum pulleys, homemade CAI, 3.55's, and bumped timing he ran a 14.2 at 97.2mph. Throw drag radials on it and it was a 13 second car.

For me to run 13's I added edelbrock intake, 65mm T-body, shorty headers, offroad X, flowmasters, asp pulleys, 3.73's, 14* timing, homemade CAI, and nitto DR's. I went 13.83 at 98.55mph with a 1.91 60' in my 3700lb+ convertible.


Sorry, but a 94-95 GT 5 speed will not go 100mph stock. Flame me all you want, I know that will not happen even in a GTS 5 speed powershifting with a gutted interior. Maybe on a G-tech, but not at a track even at or below sea level. I'm not one to call BS, but I've been around a LONG time and I know this isn't true.

[Killercanary]

Well... with a 100 shot in a coupe, I would hope it would go 118, concidering I'm going 107+ with a race weight of 3690lbs at a track elevation of 1250' above sea level. I'm not going to argue with you, I've been at this a long time and I spend a lot of time at the track, and enough people know me here at various other boards to know that I call it like it is and don't BS... I'm no newbie. I know what our cars can and can not do... and trap 100mph stone stock on street rubber they can not. The BEST NA times for a 94-95 coupe I've seen with bolt ons came from a guy that goes by "darkpony" on the corral. He's gone high 12's at 105mph with the stock E7 heads, cam, and shortblock. The only other unreal 94-95 car I've seen was a buddy of mine named Joe from our track. He had a 94 GT, and he ran it with the accessory belt totally removed, no spare or jack, no air silencer, no filter, he launched at 5000 rpms on the stock 225 series tires. It took him 2 racing seasons and TONS of practice, but he finally got the car to run a 13.9 at 97.X mph powershifting and driving the car like he hated it. I've never seen anyone else accomplish this in all my years of going to the track and being on these boards in a NA 94-95.


And just to clairify, the 14.2 at 97mph was my cousin's times in his coupe. I was running 14.3's at 97.2MPH with 2.08 60's on kelly H rated 245-50-16 tires, adding the nitto DR's and homemade CAi resulted in the 13.83 at 98.55mph times for my car.

I normally never say anything about what other people claim, because normally anything is possible, but 100mph stone stock... Tell me more about the run and how it was made, maybe there is more here than meets the eye. Maybe I should have asked this before calling BS... but I've run through just about every scenario in my head and can come up with NOTHING that would result in the trap speed your claiming for a STOCK car. Even with powershifting, icing the crap out of the intake, and sub 2.0 60's on street tires wouldn't do it even at sea level track. Please, help me understand how you are doing it and no one else I know of can... maybe you've come across something none of us have.

[Killercanary]

95stang50- sorry for taking your thread a little off topic. As for your times, where are you racing at? More specific, what is the track elevation. If you don't know you can normally find it here: http://www.whowon.com/racetracks.asp

If you are anywhere near sea level, something is wrong. The steel 17" wheel has me confused though... they are steel? What are you shifting at? 60's times? Can you post your entire timeslip including 1/8th miles times and speed... maybe the answer lies there.

[madams74]

I think you need to re-calibrate your time measuring equipment. I hope your not putting your trust in the old timex on your wrist. You may hit 90-95 on a good day.

[madams74]

I figured it out! I know how you did it now! It was down a hill, right?

[VibrantRedGT]

Originally posted by madams74
I figured it out! I know how you did it now! It was down a hill, right?

He said everyone at his track has times like this. I'm guessing the track has messed up MPH synchros.

Sorry dude, 100 MPH bone stock is not happening even with all that stuff removed.

[green94droptop]

I'm still trying to figure out how he got performer heads with 2.02" valves to fit on the stock short block. I know TW heads can fit but that's a different story.

100mph with a showroom stock mustang=no possible way.

BS

[mike72678]

SN95GT19 , your 1/4 mile time does not sound right , did you mistype ? I ran a best time of 13.6 @ 100 mph last year with no nitrous and no slicks and stock suspension without even taking off the intake tract . If you are running that kind of time you must have had like a 3 second 60 ft. time . Explain......

[chaos]

i dont see how the heck your running 100 mph on a stock mustang. Mine only ran 90 in the 1/4 mile, sure im not the greatest driver(only been to the track once) but i doubt very much I'm losing 10mph somewhere lol. Can i assume that if you drove my car it'd pick up the 10mph? I will give you $100 if you can find that extra 10 mph for me! Oh and if your such a good driver shouldn't your car stock be in the high 13's since killercanary ran 13.8@98.5 with his mods.

[mike72678]

The thing that doesn't make sense is that all this was done on a completely BONE stocker . Would you mind sharing your secrets to prove everyone wrong ? I am not trying to argue or anything , but up here in NY that is unheard of , and either you are the man and you have got some intense tricks up your sleeve , or what is your definition of BONE stock ? Do not take offense , just curious.

[Coupe50h]

uhh, sn95gt, your cool man, but that is hard to believe, my coupe weighs ALOT less than any sn95, and i trapped 101 with an iced intk, just 1.7 rr's shortie headers, h-pipe, crank pulley, subframe connectors, e.t. streets. I will say this, we have 2 tracks here in s.a, one of them run down and old, the other new, some friends i know run 3 mph faster at the old track cuz (we assume their calibration's are way off) and the e.t is a little slower at the old track.
bone stock as in air silencer in place, i was trapping 92 mph, just getting rid of that, and paper filter i got 3 mph, well enough babbling, my car is much lighter and i had to do some tweaking to get 100mph, thats all im saying, does;nt pertain to everyone, just me, but i think i drive very good.

[sn95gt19]

track is kinda old, air silencer removed, no spare or jack, 2.4 60'

thats what it took to run 100mph, i have never run at any other track so i dont know if its off, i doubt it is.
oh yeah timing was at 14* still BONE stock in my book

[Coupe50h]

Yea, timing bump and air silencer chunk is "bone stock" to us stangers heh with that, front sawbar removed and a electric fan i went 13.9 at 97+mph on 225/60 radial. bone stock

[green94droptop]

people that have no idea what they are talking about are better off leaving their mouth shut.
-trick flow heads have relocated valves, which require trick flow specific pistons
-edelbrock heads use the same valve location as stock

TFS heads don't require any specific TFS/TW or aftermarket pistons. Thier 2.02 intake valves work with the stock pistons because of their "angled" TW design. As far as the Edel heads. You could be more specific. They make a 1.90 head (ex. 6022) that doesn't require flycuting/notching/aftermarket pistons to work. They also make the 2.02 head (ex. 6025) that DOES require flycuting/notching/aftermarket pistons with releifs to work correctly. Even the stock cam's little durration will not work. I could assume that w/out even measuring PTVC.

And what makes you so knowledgable? You just turned 20 years old, and you've been doing this for 4 years? Drag racing? Buidling engines?

I've been doing "this" for 2 years; and who really cares how long. It's irrelevent. I'm not making redundant statements and I certainly don't know everything. I'm not a newbie either. Noticed I've been registered here since May '01.

I think there are quite a few people that should be driving civics or acuras on this site.

Come on, what are you 16 again? Why would you resort to a comment like that; show's how mature you are.

You need to find a new way to bring home the bacon because whatever you do for a living isn't going to get you very far. Who knows what you do; probably shoot the s h i t all day long on here.

Anyhow, keep flamming because this is fun. Until I hear something truthful from you, I'll be all over this thread. You give Mustang owners a bad rap. You think you're getting flammed up on here? Try posting your times on Camaroz28.com.

[green94droptop]

You deleted the post I quoted you from. Hmm....

[Stang_Crazy]

This post became counter productive a long time ago. Leave the ego's at the door. This isn't a pissing contest.

[Killercanary]

Originally posted by Stang_Crazy
This post became counter productive a long time ago. Leave the ego's at the door. This isn't a pissing contest.

Its not a pissing contest, its just we're stepping up to make sure bad info isn't spead. It only takes one post like that claiming a stock 94-95 will go 100mph stock then every newbie that reads it will either start claiming that's what their cars runs, or will go to thr track and see that they do in fact only trap mid-low 90's and think something is wrong with their car. I think its obvious that if the fox bodied coupe guys that replied here aren't running 100mph stock, a heavier SN95 sure isn't going to do it. Like I said before, I didn't mean to take this post off topic, but when information is THAT bad, it has to be corrected. If he posted that he ran 100mph in any 94-95 specific forum he'd get flamed right off the board. You know, things are always possible, but this one is just a bit beyond that relm of possibility. BUT it is possible with a 60' that bad that wheel spin had a factor in inflating the trap speed, and that coupled with a possible miscalibrated track could explain why he thinks a stock 94-95 will run 100mph stock, but the truth remains they can not.

BTW- I race at keystone (now pittsburgh raceway park) every week... you ever go?