1/4 mile times?
 

what kind of 1/4 mile times can i expect from a 1994 mustang gt with aode and 3.73's, x-pipe with high flow converters, 40 series flowmasters, cold air intake and 14 degrees timing? has anyone run something similar? what 1/4 mile times could i get completely stock with 2.73's?

A 14.6 @96mph would be my guess.

Stock 14.9 @93mph.

I'd say high 15's stock, and low 15's with the mods you mentioned. If it was a T-5 car I think Dark_5.0s times would be right on the money.

Andy

Auto tranny mid 15's
Manual tranny high- mid 14's.

As for stock 2.73 gears, don't waste your time at the strip, probably high 15s or 16's.

why do i do it?
 

i'm beginning to feel like a fool for spending alot of money when i can get a z-28 with an lt1 or ls1 and do 13's stock. i realize z-28 is probably a bad word on this site, but can anyone give me a really good reason not to sell my mustang and get a z-28?

Head down to the local trailer courts, Im sure you can find several Z's up on blocks. Might not even have to sell the stang to buy one either. :rolleyes:

Andy

once again, does anyone have a good verifiable reason, or am i just going to get biased favoratism?

Sounds like you didn't do your homework when you bought your 94. Just curious how much did you pay for it?

Sell off your stang if you want, take the $16+K that you're going to buy your LS1 camode with and pick up a modified Fox LX that'll smoke the doors off the LS1 for less money!

chiaronate- first lets compare apples to apples here. Take an 89 Camaro vs an 89 Stang, you're gonna get close to the same 1/4 times stock, in the 15's. Then take a 97 Camaro vs 97 Stang GT both will be around the mid-low 14's. Take the 01 SS vs 01 Cobra both will run mid 13's.

You can't expect a 89 Stang to run the same as a 96+ Camaro with a newer motor and newer technology and more hp.

But take an older Stang toss some good aftermarket parts into it and you'll blow the doors off any Slow-tie out there.

Not to mention have you tried lookin that the aftermarket for the Camaro, man there's barely anything for the EFI guys. As compared to the Stang aftermarket, where anything you want or need is right there for the takin.

Just my $0.02

My car is only lightly modified, see my sig. I paid only $4200.00 for it plus the mods. I can run with the LT1 Camaros all day long, usually beat them (the LS1's are a different story). Sell your '94 if you want to go fast cheap but don't buy a slomaro. Let the Chevy boys pay the big bucks for a look at your Fox body tail lights!

from what i've read in magazines, a 1989 gt mustang is quicker than a 1989 z-28 camaro. a 1997 gt mustang is very similar to a 1994 gt mustang. a 1997 z-28 is much quicker than 1994-1998 gt mustangs. the only two that are similar are the 2001 ss and 2001 cobra. i also like how the lt1's torque peaks at 2400 rpm. it's great for my purpose, i don't race at the track.

Before you think about selling, think about something else. Ease of modibility. Ever looked under the hood of a 94 to present f-body, it takes forever even to change the plugs. If moding isn't your thing, just the simple things like exhaust and gears are what your after, then maybe the f-body is for you, they are definately faster stock. If your even considering spending any money moding, then I would keep the mustang. Both brands have weaknesses and strengths, it's up to you to decide.

mustangs are a better daily-driver car. they're more user friendly and easier to work on, but like you said, the z-28's are faster from the factory. it would be nice to not have to change engine parts so that i can match the performance of lt1's/ls1's. maybe i'm just getting frustrated too soon. the factory 5.0's are so darn starved for air, i'm surprised they're as fast as they are. perhaps a higher flowing intake manifold and heads would make me a happier mustang owner. maybe also a cam.

Get a good heads/ cam/ intake package along with a shift kit and some gears.

LS1's are good cars LT1's are crap, there ignition system is constantly going out.

The camaros are very hard to work on compared to a 5.0.

I have a friend here who has 96 Camaro SS 6 speed. The car is definately quick. True ive never lost a race to him but they are fast cars. But if you want to do anything to it its going to take you 4 times as long. He just looked into headers and the book says its a 6-8hour job to swap headers. I know a fair bit about cars and i dont even know where his ignition coil is on that thing. They put alot of motor in a little engine bay and the only person who suffers is the person who has to do stuff or pay someone to do stuff under there.

This is a great way to add a ton of power, and depending upon the combination you chose, it can still be a mild-mannered street car.

I think Trick Flow now sells a complete H/C/I package complete with all the gaskets! I think it's around $2000 and you get TFS TW heads, TF cam, TFS Intake, RR (I think) and, I think it comes with all the gaskets too. Add a 4.10 gear-set and you're ready to rock.

The LS-1's are a quick car. No doubt. But, they are also nearly 50 cu in. bigger than your 302 powered GT. As said above, there are pros and cons to each. And as you know, your '94 auto GT is not as quick as say a '98 and up Mustang GT w/5 speed (260 HP).

Good luck,
E

The 5.0 is a very capable motor. They are easy to work on, and can be made very fast for not too much money. The z-28's are pretty fast off the show room floor, but, have you ever ridden in one? Or even driven one for that matter? They are about one of the most uncomfortable cars I have ever been in. There is a huge hill on the passenger side floorboard from where the cat sits. Every camero, from v6 to ss, that I have ever been in sounds like they are going to fall apart after the first year or two. For the most part, stangs hold up much better.

These are my opinions and only that. Dont let me sway your judgement. If you think you would be happier with a camero, by all means, get one. But when it cost as much to change the spark plugs as it would for an intake swap on a 5.0, you might kick your self in the back side. I have a friend who was quoted $400 by one shop, and told by another that they wouldnt do it because it wasnt worth the effort to them.

i think about getting a different car now and then, i'm mostly just thinking out loud. i've had my car for more than four years and, well, you know how it is. but, every time i think about getting a different car, i always reason that i made a good choice with my car. i've been regretting getting an automatic transmission, but it's good other than that. i recently had a bbk x-pipe put on with catalytic converters, and it rattled a few weeks later. something came loose in one of the converters. i'm going to write to bbk and ask them to refund my installation price, but if they don't, i'll buy my next one from someone else.

low 15s high 14s
I had a 95 GT 5.0, Aod, 3.55, mac 2 1/2 catback, k&n filter, splitfire plugs and i couldnt get it under 15.2

UMMM, the ls1 would be a great daily driver, i dont see how someone said they are uncomfortable? just an opinion i realize, but they feel pretty good, they will rattle after a while yes, but so will a mustang, especially a foxbody.
like you said, you dont race at the track, well then an f-bod is what you want, because as soon as you get some serious power under the hood, and take it to the track frequently, the 10bolt rearend just wont live......I swear the 8.8 rearend was built for dragracing:D

Even with my mods, a stock ss would be a handful from a roll, maybe beat me, being their 2nd gear with 3.42's will see almost 80 mph!!
now the lt1's just dont have much of a chance against stangs, i've run many lt1's.... lt4 hot cammed, slp headered, strokers..ect.... they just cant catch me;) i do like the ls1's though, pretty stout powerband they have, so ignore the avatar.....:p

Bone stock 2000 GT with an automatic on stock tires, runs 14.61 at 98.1 mph. That's my brother's car, with a full tank of gas in it. My cousin has an '01GT 5-speed. Stock tires, 14.1@101 and on the Nitto's he's running 13.7's at 102mph.

A 94-95 would be hard-pressed to get into the 14's in bone stock trim. Some mods help, and good driving does too.

Setup an earlier Fox mustang with a good h/c/i and you'll be mid 12's or faster if setup properly. I'm pretty sure most Z28's, SS's, etc don't run that, and you can do the Fox for less than the cost of the newer Bowties. For me, the difference between a Z28, SS or a Mustang is the cost. Unfortunately, the Camaro is gone, and the Mustang is left to contend with the Corvette, and the ricers. It all depends on what you want.

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i bought my 88 gt for 1500. i then put like 2k in it tomake it run then another like 2k for mods. new wheels,tires, gears,a little bit of suspenion and a zex nitrous kit. my car runs 13.56 in the 1/4. and by no means am i a good driver. with a good driver in my car i think it can go into high 12's or low low 13's.

i didn't know the new gt's are that quick. i know they're rated at 260 horsepower, but what is the torque rating?

Re: why do i do it?
 

^^^^^^:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Why not put some gears and a convertor in the Mustang and go fast.. :confused:

SEE SIG!!!!!

^^^^^Those are the UNDERSTATEMENTS OF THE DECADE!!!!
;) :cool:

^^^^:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Car in sig.. WHEN stock with the exception of cold air kit, pullies and mufflers on stock 16inch ponies with AODE and stock 3.27 gear.. 90 degree heat.. 365lb driver 14.59@97.6

Thats awesome! Were you able to back that time up? My 94 AODE convert ran that fast with h/c/i. It wasnt until I put the JMS chip in when I really noticed a difference. That thing took me from 14.50's@95 to 14.0's@98.

Your car is definately the exception to the rule. Are you sure there wasnt anything else done to it? :D

Andy

That's an awesome time! Congrats!

Please keep in mind that I said bone stock trim. That means no pullies, cold air kit or mufflers. Being a regular at the two local tracks myself and friends of mine have only seen rare instances where a 94-95 (completely stock AODE cars) have broken the 14's. I didn't say it wasn't possible, just hard pressed to do it. On average they are a low 15 second car.

Re: Re: why do i do it?
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TONYD
[B]^^^^^^:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Why not put some gears and a convertor in the Mustang and go fast..

i've just figured out how to add a signiture. i have 3.73's already, not sure if i'd like to get a high-stall converter. i'll see after i get better heads.

Re: Re: Re: why do i do it?
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chiaronate
[B]You would DEFINITELY benefit from a higher stall dude. You may want to consider it sooner than later. Although where your heads & cam start making power is a factor to be considered when figuring out a good, higher stall speed. A 2000-2500 rpm stall would really wake your car up.

Well.. I think that the stock "optional" 3.27 gears helped a good bit.. I backed it up with a string of .60's and .70's... the same day..
Of course my 95 always seemed a little stronger than others i was around..

Yeah i am aware of the "bone stock" comment.. BUT, that is the closest it was to stock when i took it the first time to the track.. I still feel it could have easily ran 14.80-.90 in STOCK trim.. KEEP IN MIND i am a 365lb driver which easily negated the pullies and cold air kit:D

Re: Re: Re: why do i do it?
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chiaronate
[B]A QUALITY convertor like a stallion will pick the car up a MINIMUM of 5 tenths of a second (with traction of course)

Re: Re: Re: Re: why do i do it?
 

A "STOCK" aode convertor has a stall speed of 19-2400 rpm.. A 2500 rpm convertor would not pick the car up and would be a total waste of money.. MINIMUM stall speed on a aode equipped car (they are HEAVY...) would be a 3200 .. I have a 3800 in mine and drive it anywhere and everywhere.