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Mean50 you should spend more time working on fixing your problems than blaming other people for YOUR problems. Chill out and keep working at it. You're probably one of those people who gets road rage if someone looks at you wrong. calm down and fix your problems it's the only way to make your car faster, blaming other people won't make it faster....working on it will. Novel concept, huh!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheSloAod:
[B]maybe you should try and tune your car. then learn how to drive and if that doesnt help then try a different hobby. 13.42 @ 104 on street tires with a stock automatic car, no cam, unported stock heads and unported intake ____________________________________________ just one word bull sh/t! ------------------ 88 mustang gt convertible BBk equal length headers mac cold air intake cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 180 degree thermostat 16 degrees of timing |
come to houston raceway park in baytown tx and we can put some money on my 13.42 @104mph, in my stock aod. 16 degrees timing, 44 psi fuel pressure, stock headers, 2.5 hipe w/ flowmaster (I'm so damn poor the flow tubes are still 2.25) electric fan, 373, driveshaft, ignition box, bbk cold air package, small stall convert. and yes untouched stock heads that have never been off the car, and unported stock intake (the lower has never been off but i have the .5 spacer) and a stock cam, with stock rockers.
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5.0 HO- i enjoy people like you.... your the easiest to take money from... you would probally set my aod out 2 cars and lose by 4... and $50. my car has never been sprayed and the engine has 125,000 miles. your also the type that would claim that i had nitrous when i beat you so you could ignore the fact that your car is slow and tired
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------------------ Clint L. White 95 Cobra #3637 58cc GT40X heads with mild porting, Crane 2031 cam, FRPP 65 TB, 1.7s, Cobra intake, homeade cold air, 155lph, pullies, Tokico Illuminas, C springs, GW lower control arms, Steeda CC plates, aluminum driveshaft, Steeda quadrant, MSD6A, Mac shorties, off road hpipe, 2 1/2 ultra flows w/ dumps, R hood, Euro clear corners, stock 3.08s 13.61 @ 104.7 w/ 2.22 |
Calm down SloAd!! If you look at your original post, it sounds all stock. Then you mention it has gears, pulleys, fan, etc. Your combo is right on the button, it's just your first post seemed deceiving.
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slowAOD eithier has a very strong factory car, or hes full of crap. 13.4 with a stock AOD car isnt happening, no way.
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of course i have bolt ons, who doesnt...? TXSN95 anytime you want to do something let me know. i have about 10 friends that go to school up there. in my original post i just said that my heads, cam, and intake are stock and nothing is ported. in the houston area there arent many mustangs running around without bolt ons. i have had the car for 4 yrs. so i had alot of time with it, and many of my friends have been modifying them for yrs before i knew what a mustang was
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I have stock ported heads, GT-40 intake, F303, 76mm C&L, 65mmtb, and all the usual bolt-ons, and had a friend hit 13.730@102 in my car with one tire spinning (street tires) off the line and stock 2.73 gears.
It's going to hit 12's with the addition of the gears and a set of slicks. ------------------ Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph Indiana Stangers Association Buy your parts here ICQ# 42269241 |
Hey Thesloaod I'm going to navasota on wed night to the 1/8 mile track with a bunch of people. Meet me there and we can run em. Anyone want to place any bets???
------------------ Clint L. White 95 Cobra #3637 58cc GT40X heads with mild porting, Crane 2031 cam, FRPP 65 TB, 1.7s, Cobra intake, homeade cold air, 155lph, pullies, Tokico Illuminas, C springs, GW lower control arms, Steeda CC plates, aluminum driveshaft, Steeda quadrant, MSD6A, Mac shorties, off road hpipe, 2 1/2 ultra flows w/ dumps, R hood, Euro clear corners, stock 3.08s 13.61 @ 104.7 w/ 2.22 |
I will put my car up for it....Tex will win, if not Thesloaod will have a slow 450 hp 306
------------------ Dustin 93 Cobra 261 rwhp 89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp(TFS Intake,TFS Heads, BD-11A 9#,Ecam,1.6 rr's, BBK longtubes, lots more... |
Sorry it took so long to reply. First of all the problems isn't the driver. Second that is without the nitrous. Third I am not saying that anyone is lying about their times. The track I go to is Bristol, TN (NHRA facility) so the timing devices are right. With ET Streets last year with the motor bored to 306 and an F303 cam and 125 hp shot, and 4.10s the car ran 13.49 at 100 but it could have been a little better. I haven't had it to the track with the latest mods (everything listed on my sig) but it doesn't feel like it should. Some people say the injectors are too big, so I took my buddies 24#ers and his MAF off and put them on my car, it popped through the intake meaning it was running too lean. The car surges around 2000-2500. I have also tried my buddies distributor and wires, no change. As far as fuel pres or timing, changed everything, I cannot seem to get the problem solved. THe MAF is a FMS calibrated for 30#ers. As for racing the car, it is one of the quickest stangs around on the street. I know you all put my driving down, but honestly I can drive with the best of them, speed shifting and all that crap. I **** around 5800. Leave all the comments to yourself and just give me your opinions on what is wrong.
------------------ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, Holley Heads, Intake, and Cam package, 70 mm Throttle body and Mass Air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears 50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light |
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You had 13.49@100mph with an F-cam? Any motor trapping under 110 with an F-cam is overcammed, big time. Your trap speed indicates about 250hp. Why are you posting your N20 as a mod in that statement? Don't put the N20 in as a mod if the runs you are making are off the giggle gas. It's very confusing. That's mid 13 with a totally mismatched combo N/A. How in the hell are you getting your Holley setup to perform no better or worse???? You should be in the 12's with any kind of traction. You have so much done to the car to ask what is the problem it's too hard to diagnose. You are waaaaaayyyyy off where you should be. Is the N20 a wet or dry kit? If it's a wet kit, ditch the 30lbers. They are way too much. Go back to 24lb/hr injectors and have your MAF calibrated. Running at 100mph is too low to even justify the 24lbers. As far as popping through the intake that sounds like a valve sticking if you weren't under N20. |
Okay, the 13.49 was achieved with the nitrous last season with an F303 cam and 4.10s(I agree was over cammed). Since then I added all the mods on my sig. I am not running the nitrous when I say that I can't run with the Z28. You are right, with the nitrous I should be in the low 12s easy. For now I am just worried about it without the nitrous. The system is a wet kit. When I had my buddies 24#ers in it, when it was cold it would pop through the intake, as soon as you drove it a little it would straighten up. I don't think I can get the FMS MAF calibrated for 24#ers. Something is restricting the engine, honestly is the 30#ers way too big? When I bought the Holley Systemax kit, it recommends either 24s or 30s.
------------------ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, Holley Heads, Intake, and Cam package, 70 mm Throttle body and Mass Air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears 50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light |
texsn95 my best 1/8 mile is I think 8.60 something. i dont know where your track is but fun ford weekend is at houston raceway park may 5-6, you should come down and we can set something up. your car should run low low 13 sec 1/4 judging from your mph and 60 foot times, but i have no worries
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Mean50-I have a buddy that lives out that way in virginia he races at bristol. Most of these guys are over looking your elevation I know my buddy runs about a half a second off of what he would in Richmond. Do you guys have any street scene up there he has been looking for awhile he has a White 95 with a small shot.
------------------ 88LX 5.0,C4,3200stall,TFS stg 1 cam, ported E7's, BBK LT's, Race magnum bullets, ASP 3" pulley, 3.73's, 75hp NOS Dry Kit, Explorer intake 7.93@85 N/A 1/8th C4 7.39@90 N2O 1/8th C4 http://www.angelfire.com/ns/PurgingPony/50mainpage.html |
PurgingPony- Where does the guy live with the white 95? The elevation might have something to do with it. I know I use to take my stang to the track when the only mods I had where 3.55 gears, one night in particular I had the fastest stock engine 5.0 over there and I ran a 15.01 at 90 mph. That is why it is hard for me to believe that guys are running 13s with minor mods.
------------------ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, Holley Heads, Intake, and Cam package, 70 mm Throttle body and Mass Air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears 50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light |
If I remember correctly, Holley claims that the systemax2 kit will take a full weight GT into the 12's. If the altitude makes that much of a difference that sucks. I'm glad I live at sea level.
Have you tried playing with your shift points? (not sure on the power band of that cam) Don't know much about your situation, but it's just a thought. ------------------ 90LX Ragtop. 15.5@91 w/Aod Strut tower brace, K&N, 2.25'' Flowmasters, Hollow cats, Crank pulley, Crane 2031, Crane rockers, Holley FPR, Heavy duty clutch, and alum quadrant. Need Gears Bad!!! |
The best way to run your car is one part at a time. If you come up with a new combo and it falls on it's face, you can't single anything out. I've learned that the hard way with my 65' stang. It took 3 gear sets and 4 cams later to get it's best run. Put your part on, tune it, run it, tune it till you get it's best E.T., then add your other goodies. To me I think your cam and injectors are too big. E-303 with 24#'s will probably wake that thing up.
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Hey Mean 5.0 I live here in SW VA too, and I've heard much about elevation differences, but I'm not too sure how much we can deduct. I know I was running crap a$$ times at Elk Creek, so I'd be curious to know exactly how much of a difference our mountainous area makes...I'll ask around. Let me know if you find out, but I'm slow anyways hehe http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/wink.gif so you'll benefit more from the info.
BTW I ran a 14.01 @ 100 with my stock except 4.10s pig of a SN 95. ------------------ Elisha (Mustangbelle) 1994 GT: Cartech intake,4.10s, full exhaust, and pulleys. Sold the 1986 LX sedan :( http://www.geocities.com/mustangbelle_306 AOL name: GT306Chick |
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