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13s with a stocker, Bull****
Everyone is arguing over carb vs EFI, after reading those posts I have to say that some of you must have never went to the strip. Take a look at my combo. Either I have something bad wrong or your times are LIES! I haven't had it to the track since the the latest mods, but my friend and his Z28 runs mid 13s and my car won't run with his at all. I know what you are saying, better driver, WRONG! I drive better, do everything right, but the thing falls on its face compared to the Z. It just isn't my car either, every other mustang around here has the same thing.
------------------ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, Holley Heads, Intake, and Cam package, 70 mm Throttle body and Mass Air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears 50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light |
Well, there must be something wrong with you and everyone elses car. If your buddy runs mid 13's and you can't hang with him that means either your motor is F*cked or you can't drive. Hell, My can ran low 13's stock on slicks. It's not our problem, it's yours.
------------------ 87 GT, 4 inch cowl hood,17x9 Cobra R's/255/45's,GT-40 heads,long tubes headers,h-pipe,Flows,BBK cold air, Mass air,70mm MAF, 1.7's, 1" spacer,underdrive pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra, Adj. fuel Reg., Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's. Best time 12.96 Best MPH 103.42 Best 60' 1.695 Visit my site at: http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html |
Well personally speaking, I would never lie about my times or horsepower, I have timeslips to prove it. I would say something is wrong with your motor or tune. Is that on the spray your losing? I got my stock motor with 160K on it to go 12.87 @ 104mph with full suspension and exhaust on 10.5" D.O.T's, it had stock untounched heads, cam, intakes, injectors, etc....
Now I have the Holley kit on a fresh 302 and with bad heads (seals and guides) and no traction I went 12.6 @ 108 on a 2.48 60ft. I don't have the compression ratio you have either I am around 9.3, so something is defintely wrong, we have very similar combos, and I am currebtly running the 3:73 not the 4:30's. With the new heads and custom cam and the additions I did this winter, I am looking for solid 11's, and it shouldn't be a problem getting there. Tell your buddy to come up to MD and I'll show him the tail lights of a Mustang. Now if you want some help can you give a little more info. What kind of fuel pressure and timing are you running? ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! |
if you've got the holley systemax in a coupe without the spray it should be running ATLEAST mid 13's, especially with a T5 car. if my car can hit 13's with stock heads,cam&intake AND an AOD on 225/60 street tires then you should absolutely KILL my times, my advice to you is to get it dyno tuned and see what the problem is because either you are a horrible driver or your car isnt putting out nearly the horsepower that it can , what are you actual times? include et,mph and 60ft, and weather and track conditions, then we can go from there
------------------ 88 Notchback 5.0, 3.73's, Ported E7's, Explorer int. w/ ported lower, pulleys, Crane 1.7's, BBK headers, off-road H-pipe, flowmasters, subframe connectors, 65mm TB, shift kit, March ram air kit, motorsport wires, MSD coil, upper and lower control arms, 155lph fuel pump, cheap 2800 stall, Crane Adj.FPR, best time- 13.99@99.75, not yet tested times after rockers,intake or ported heads |
Man, you are a MORON!!! If you can't hang with 13 sec Z then you aren't worthy to even sit IN a mustang with those mods....no wait...you aren't worthy PERIOD. My bud had ajacked up 302 with the SystemMax 2 kit, and spinning through 1 and 2, he ran 13.30's all day long. Your car is seriously jacked....are you sure it is a 5.0? Just asking because you sound like you don't know your $hit. Just a thought
------------------ Dustin 93 Cobra 261 rwhp 89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp(TFS Intake,TFS Heads, BD-11A 9#,Ecam,1.6 rr's, BBK longtubes, lots more... |
With your car you should be in the 12's EASY!Low 13's with street tires. Something is wrong with you or your car. If you are the driver you claim, you should be there.
What were your "latest mods?" You "do everything right" meaning what? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you think with the 175 shot you should be making a hair under 500HP! I would love to see a stock or even a bolt on Z, try to hang with that. ------------------ 1995 GT Black- Edelbrock 6037's,Intake,Edelbrock cam,70mm TB,75mm pro-m,Taylor wires, pulleys,Equal length headers,K&N filter Flowmaster,3.73's, Eibach pro rate springs lower control arms Centerforce clutch New motor in the works! |
Mean50, dont start calling everyone liars about their times, have you checked you MAF? What kind do you have? Are you detonating? Hows the idle? Does the car surge at all? I have the same problem you do, I hit a 14.6 stock. I went to the track with everything in my sig except gears n longtubes and hit a shitty 14.4 @98mph, then I installed the 355's and the longtubes and went back to hit another 14.4! Point is, dont get mad, just keep trying. I ended up having the wrong resistor on my MAF. When I put the correct resistor on it cleared up the driveability probs but didnt gain much hp. Good Luck
------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
Man - 6 replies to your ridiclous post and still no response from you. Mean 5.0????? Hardly! I'd be embarrassed to use that as a username if I were you. I hit 13.8 on street tires - bone stock. With all those mods you have, you'd have to be THE worst driver out there, or be so sloppy a$$ drunk you couldn't even get the key into the ignition, to not be in the 13's (at least). Why don't you and your Slomaro friend come up to NY, and I'll give out some driving lessons. Helpful hint: put the ebrake down before you run him next time.
------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 30# injectors; 190 lb fp; FPR; TFS track heat Intake - 12.513 @ 112 mph (Pre-inj/fuelpump/FPR/intake) |
Damn go boyee
------------------ Dustin 93 Cobra 261 rwhp 89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp(TFS Intake,TFS Heads, BD-11A 9#,Ecam,1.6 rr's, BBK longtubes, lots more... |
MEAN50, don't want to beat a horse to death but they are right, i mean, I ran 13.9 with exhaust and gears only. Keep tuning but don't give up just because things aren't so hot right now.
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Hate to keep this going but come on. My car is damn near stock and runs 13.9's off the spray. I'm lopping 1.6 off with my spray. You havent told us if these runs against the Z were N/A or on the spray. Also, in your sig you say the kit is 50-175 horse kit, which shot are you running. I would actually be embarrased to come here and tell people those times with that combo, let along try to call a whole BB out. Just my 2¢.
------------------ 94GT Mac Headers, BBK Off-road H-pipe, ASP Pulleys, Pro 5.0 Shifter, 4.10 Gear, Weld in subs, Flowmaster 2 chambers, NOS 150 shot. Best ET 12.34 @ 110. http://www.tribes-universe.com/n202/.../chris2car.jpg |
your car is WAAAAAY wrong brotha..
W/ a 150 shot..that car could go 10's on slicks. If you don't believe me i have timeslips on my "users rides" section of this site. I have stock heads, cam ,crank,rockers, intake....etc. My best on ET Streets is 13.20's on motor And 12.50's on 75 shot. In a couple weeks....low 11's....guranteed. I will post my time slips on may 26th.... ------------------ 4.10's,long tubes & 75 shot...Goes 12.50's Check it out at http://www.burnouts.webprovider.com 11's coming soon!!!! Heads,intake and cam are all here |
Agreed. Your car is messed up. Even with horrible driving on radials you should still be in the 13's.
With a tune my stock motored 87GT with exhaust and a K&N should be in the 13's. With 2.73's no less. You must have a serious fuel or timing problem. Maybe the cam is installed 180* off? LOL Seriously though, you need to bring that thing in. If you did the work to it, let somebody who know's what they are doing look at it. Somebody seriously messed that thing up. |
mean50: i thought i was the only bad driver here!! geesh all those mods and you can't hang with a mid 13 second camaro??
a few questions: what tires you using?? any suspension help or is it all stock?? why 30 lb injectors?? do you use the nitrous and still can't stay with him?? ------------------ 93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's Sub's and K&N. |
it takes more than a bad driver with those mods to run that slow!
I run 13.8's with b303, 1.7's, 70mm TB on street tires and 2.73's |
Mean 50,
Please don't take offense to this, as I'm not trying to be harsh. With what you have done in mods, I think you should be well into the 13s. You can be the best driver in the world, but that isn't gonna help you if something is out of whack (trust me, I know.....been there, done that). Who did the work on your car? Is it possible that maybe the distributor is off a tooth or two (I had that happen) http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/frown.gif The point is, don't take it so hard and personal that the car isn't in the 13s. I think mine should run alot faster than it does, but I have yet to meet my 12 second goal. If you wanna ask anything technical, or specific, feel free to email us. You can also go to the website to see my current mods. (FYI< my best ET with those mods ia a 13.496 @ 102.89 MPH. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif ------------------ 1995 GT 1991 LX AOD www.wingard.stangnet.com |
I wondered a bit about the 30lbers too, but then thought his N20 kit may have been a dry kit with big jets.
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Sixteen or so responses and not a word of rebuttal from "Mean50". We're wasting our time with this clown! As the old saying goes..."like trying to teach a pig to sing: it wastes your time and anoys the pig!" IMHO
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maybe you should try and tune your car. then learn how to drive and if that doesnt help then try a different hobby. 13.42 @ 104 on street tires with a stock automatic car, no cam, unported stock heads and unported intake
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TheSloAod-
13.42@104 stock, unported?? Sorry I don't see it unless you are blown of huffin gas. ------------------ Dustin 93 Cobra 261 rwhp 89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp(TFS Intake,TFS Heads, BD-11A 9#,Ecam,1.6 rr's, BBK longtubes, lots more... |
Mean50 you should spend more time working on fixing your problems than blaming other people for YOUR problems. Chill out and keep working at it. You're probably one of those people who gets road rage if someone looks at you wrong. calm down and fix your problems it's the only way to make your car faster, blaming other people won't make it faster....working on it will. Novel concept, huh!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheSloAod:
[B]maybe you should try and tune your car. then learn how to drive and if that doesnt help then try a different hobby. 13.42 @ 104 on street tires with a stock automatic car, no cam, unported stock heads and unported intake ____________________________________________ just one word bull sh/t! ------------------ 88 mustang gt convertible BBk equal length headers mac cold air intake cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 180 degree thermostat 16 degrees of timing |
come to houston raceway park in baytown tx and we can put some money on my 13.42 @104mph, in my stock aod. 16 degrees timing, 44 psi fuel pressure, stock headers, 2.5 hipe w/ flowmaster (I'm so damn poor the flow tubes are still 2.25) electric fan, 373, driveshaft, ignition box, bbk cold air package, small stall convert. and yes untouched stock heads that have never been off the car, and unported stock intake (the lower has never been off but i have the .5 spacer) and a stock cam, with stock rockers.
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5.0 HO- i enjoy people like you.... your the easiest to take money from... you would probally set my aod out 2 cars and lose by 4... and $50. my car has never been sprayed and the engine has 125,000 miles. your also the type that would claim that i had nitrous when i beat you so you could ignore the fact that your car is slow and tired
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------------------ Clint L. White 95 Cobra #3637 58cc GT40X heads with mild porting, Crane 2031 cam, FRPP 65 TB, 1.7s, Cobra intake, homeade cold air, 155lph, pullies, Tokico Illuminas, C springs, GW lower control arms, Steeda CC plates, aluminum driveshaft, Steeda quadrant, MSD6A, Mac shorties, off road hpipe, 2 1/2 ultra flows w/ dumps, R hood, Euro clear corners, stock 3.08s 13.61 @ 104.7 w/ 2.22 |
Calm down SloAd!! If you look at your original post, it sounds all stock. Then you mention it has gears, pulleys, fan, etc. Your combo is right on the button, it's just your first post seemed deceiving.
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slowAOD eithier has a very strong factory car, or hes full of crap. 13.4 with a stock AOD car isnt happening, no way.
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of course i have bolt ons, who doesnt...? TXSN95 anytime you want to do something let me know. i have about 10 friends that go to school up there. in my original post i just said that my heads, cam, and intake are stock and nothing is ported. in the houston area there arent many mustangs running around without bolt ons. i have had the car for 4 yrs. so i had alot of time with it, and many of my friends have been modifying them for yrs before i knew what a mustang was
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I have stock ported heads, GT-40 intake, F303, 76mm C&L, 65mmtb, and all the usual bolt-ons, and had a friend hit 13.730@102 in my car with one tire spinning (street tires) off the line and stock 2.73 gears.
It's going to hit 12's with the addition of the gears and a set of slicks. ------------------ Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph Indiana Stangers Association Buy your parts here ICQ# 42269241 |
Hey Thesloaod I'm going to navasota on wed night to the 1/8 mile track with a bunch of people. Meet me there and we can run em. Anyone want to place any bets???
------------------ Clint L. White 95 Cobra #3637 58cc GT40X heads with mild porting, Crane 2031 cam, FRPP 65 TB, 1.7s, Cobra intake, homeade cold air, 155lph, pullies, Tokico Illuminas, C springs, GW lower control arms, Steeda CC plates, aluminum driveshaft, Steeda quadrant, MSD6A, Mac shorties, off road hpipe, 2 1/2 ultra flows w/ dumps, R hood, Euro clear corners, stock 3.08s 13.61 @ 104.7 w/ 2.22 |
I will put my car up for it....Tex will win, if not Thesloaod will have a slow 450 hp 306
------------------ Dustin 93 Cobra 261 rwhp 89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp(TFS Intake,TFS Heads, BD-11A 9#,Ecam,1.6 rr's, BBK longtubes, lots more... |
Sorry it took so long to reply. First of all the problems isn't the driver. Second that is without the nitrous. Third I am not saying that anyone is lying about their times. The track I go to is Bristol, TN (NHRA facility) so the timing devices are right. With ET Streets last year with the motor bored to 306 and an F303 cam and 125 hp shot, and 4.10s the car ran 13.49 at 100 but it could have been a little better. I haven't had it to the track with the latest mods (everything listed on my sig) but it doesn't feel like it should. Some people say the injectors are too big, so I took my buddies 24#ers and his MAF off and put them on my car, it popped through the intake meaning it was running too lean. The car surges around 2000-2500. I have also tried my buddies distributor and wires, no change. As far as fuel pres or timing, changed everything, I cannot seem to get the problem solved. THe MAF is a FMS calibrated for 30#ers. As for racing the car, it is one of the quickest stangs around on the street. I know you all put my driving down, but honestly I can drive with the best of them, speed shifting and all that crap. I **** around 5800. Leave all the comments to yourself and just give me your opinions on what is wrong.
------------------ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, Holley Heads, Intake, and Cam package, 70 mm Throttle body and Mass Air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears 50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light |
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You had 13.49@100mph with an F-cam? Any motor trapping under 110 with an F-cam is overcammed, big time. Your trap speed indicates about 250hp. Why are you posting your N20 as a mod in that statement? Don't put the N20 in as a mod if the runs you are making are off the giggle gas. It's very confusing. That's mid 13 with a totally mismatched combo N/A. How in the hell are you getting your Holley setup to perform no better or worse???? You should be in the 12's with any kind of traction. You have so much done to the car to ask what is the problem it's too hard to diagnose. You are waaaaaayyyyy off where you should be. Is the N20 a wet or dry kit? If it's a wet kit, ditch the 30lbers. They are way too much. Go back to 24lb/hr injectors and have your MAF calibrated. Running at 100mph is too low to even justify the 24lbers. As far as popping through the intake that sounds like a valve sticking if you weren't under N20. |
Okay, the 13.49 was achieved with the nitrous last season with an F303 cam and 4.10s(I agree was over cammed). Since then I added all the mods on my sig. I am not running the nitrous when I say that I can't run with the Z28. You are right, with the nitrous I should be in the low 12s easy. For now I am just worried about it without the nitrous. The system is a wet kit. When I had my buddies 24#ers in it, when it was cold it would pop through the intake, as soon as you drove it a little it would straighten up. I don't think I can get the FMS MAF calibrated for 24#ers. Something is restricting the engine, honestly is the 30#ers way too big? When I bought the Holley Systemax kit, it recommends either 24s or 30s.
------------------ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, Holley Heads, Intake, and Cam package, 70 mm Throttle body and Mass Air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears 50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light |
texsn95 my best 1/8 mile is I think 8.60 something. i dont know where your track is but fun ford weekend is at houston raceway park may 5-6, you should come down and we can set something up. your car should run low low 13 sec 1/4 judging from your mph and 60 foot times, but i have no worries
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Mean50-I have a buddy that lives out that way in virginia he races at bristol. Most of these guys are over looking your elevation I know my buddy runs about a half a second off of what he would in Richmond. Do you guys have any street scene up there he has been looking for awhile he has a White 95 with a small shot.
------------------ 88LX 5.0,C4,3200stall,TFS stg 1 cam, ported E7's, BBK LT's, Race magnum bullets, ASP 3" pulley, 3.73's, 75hp NOS Dry Kit, Explorer intake 7.93@85 N/A 1/8th C4 7.39@90 N2O 1/8th C4 http://www.angelfire.com/ns/PurgingPony/50mainpage.html |
PurgingPony- Where does the guy live with the white 95? The elevation might have something to do with it. I know I use to take my stang to the track when the only mods I had where 3.55 gears, one night in particular I had the fastest stock engine 5.0 over there and I ran a 15.01 at 90 mph. That is why it is hard for me to believe that guys are running 13s with minor mods.
------------------ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, Holley Heads, Intake, and Cam package, 70 mm Throttle body and Mass Air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears 50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light |
If I remember correctly, Holley claims that the systemax2 kit will take a full weight GT into the 12's. If the altitude makes that much of a difference that sucks. I'm glad I live at sea level.
Have you tried playing with your shift points? (not sure on the power band of that cam) Don't know much about your situation, but it's just a thought. ------------------ 90LX Ragtop. 15.5@91 w/Aod Strut tower brace, K&N, 2.25'' Flowmasters, Hollow cats, Crank pulley, Crane 2031, Crane rockers, Holley FPR, Heavy duty clutch, and alum quadrant. Need Gears Bad!!! |
The best way to run your car is one part at a time. If you come up with a new combo and it falls on it's face, you can't single anything out. I've learned that the hard way with my 65' stang. It took 3 gear sets and 4 cams later to get it's best run. Put your part on, tune it, run it, tune it till you get it's best E.T., then add your other goodies. To me I think your cam and injectors are too big. E-303 with 24#'s will probably wake that thing up.
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Hey Mean 5.0 I live here in SW VA too, and I've heard much about elevation differences, but I'm not too sure how much we can deduct. I know I was running crap a$$ times at Elk Creek, so I'd be curious to know exactly how much of a difference our mountainous area makes...I'll ask around. Let me know if you find out, but I'm slow anyways hehe http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/wink.gif so you'll benefit more from the info.
BTW I ran a 14.01 @ 100 with my stock except 4.10s pig of a SN 95. ------------------ Elisha (Mustangbelle) 1994 GT: Cartech intake,4.10s, full exhaust, and pulleys. Sold the 1986 LX sedan :( http://www.geocities.com/mustangbelle_306 AOL name: GT306Chick |
24lb injector will support better than 400hp easy.
Get an adjustable FPR, 24's and play with the fuel pressure, start at about 46psi. According to the stang analyzer 58 psi is the setting you should have with 405 crank hp. Of course, that's an estimate. Based on your combo making 360hp you'd set at 46psi. Adjust from there. Although I'm betting a dyno tune would add some serious hp if you are just out of tune. The 30lbers are huge for what you have. You could nearly run 24lb injectors at stock pressure!! Right now if you don't have your fuel pressure turned way down (which will give you a shitty spray pattern), the computer has to be using all it's ability to adjust the pulse width on the injector. Anyway, your friend may have had a weak injector, or maybe you didn't pull the battery cable and reset the stock computer? How long did you drive it that way? I think you should be in the 11's with the spray and traction to tell you the truth. If the head/cam/intake combo was installed properly you can narrow the problems down pretty good. MAF, computer, ignition, or fuel system (which we know isn't right). What ignition are you running? If you are running stock, I'd suggest upgrading it, especially since you have bumped the CR. Perhaps the antiknock sensor on your intake is malfunctioning and the computer is yanking timing like nobody's business? There are still a lot of variables, but swapping the computer, MAF and injectors should give you an idea what's going on with the data crunching side of things. Swapping the injectors will allow for a better spray pattern and performance for sure. Am I reading your mods list correct? Your MAF is also 70mm? I would seriously think about upgrading to a ProM77 or equivelent. [This message has been edited by Unit 5302 (edited 04-30-2001).] |
Well to be honest Holley does recommend 30# injectors with the kit. What heads do you have from Holley (vlave size, PT# if you know it) I went with the 24# injectors because I heard people having issues with too much fuel with the 30#'s, but now I wish I would have went with the 30#'s injectors as I have done more mods adn the heads and cam I currently have could take advantage of more fuel. I really don't think it;'s the injectors but it could be..nothing surprises me any more. When you said it was popping at cold start and idle, I had that problem with my 75mm Pro-M, after it warmed up it disappeared. How does it feel in the lower Rms, where does the cam feel like it comes on, where does the power feel like it falls off?
------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! |
Well the Holley heads are the ones that come with the Systemax II kit. I think they are 1.94 valves not the 2.02s. My friends engine is currently down so I am going to swap the injectors again and play with the fuel pressure and timing. It feels strong at low RPMs, but it just doesn't come on like it should. You can feel that something is restraining it. If I change injectors then I will have to purchase a MAF, what would be the best choice? How hard is it to swap computers?
As for using the E303 cam, that would totally take away from the Kit that Holley tested for best results. ------------------ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, Holley Heads, Intake, and Cam package, 70 mm Throttle body and Mass Air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears 50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light |
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------------------ Clint L. White 95 Cobra #3637 58cc GT40X heads with mild porting, Crane 2031 cam, FRPP 65 TB, 1.7s, Cobra intake, homeade cold air, 155lph, pullies, Tokico Illuminas, C springs, GW lower control arms, Steeda CC plates, aluminum driveshaft, Steeda quadrant, MSD6A, Mac shorties, off road hpipe, 2 1/2 ultra flows w/ dumps, R hood, Euro clear corners, stock 3.08s 13.61 @ 104.7 w/ 2.22 |
Ok lets see here... Somethin is really fuckd up. First off you need some HARD Numbers from a track, no matter what altitude because we can correct for that.
Heres an example though, I ran at a 3300elevation track and ran 13.8@100 mph... with no changes to the car I ran at almost sea level at another track and went 12.5@107. I had better track but 7mph difference! Other people report the same loss in MPH at this track so that could come into play. Also please list IN DETAIL every part to your engine, intake, exhaust, ignition, plug gap, FP, Timing, ETC. Im sure we can find out whats wrong but you need to address all these issues first or its just guessing. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Going for 11's on 87 octane with A/C and 20+MPG!!! |
If anyone is interested Bristol, Tenn. is 1615 elevation.
------------------ 93GT, S-trim (2.95 pulley), SFMU, Stage 2 TFS TW heads, Stage 2 Cobra intake, AFM powerpipe, PRO-M 75mm massair, 75mm throttle body, 42lb.inj. 1 5/8 headers, 2 1/2 h-pipe and exhaust, 2 chamber Flowmasters, 3.55 gears, Ultradyne cam, Elder.timing gears, Black Magic fan, 3 row alum.rad. MSD6al/BTM, MSD coil, MSD shift light, subframe connectors, A-pillar gauges, Pro-5.0 shifter. |
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With the old set-up the cam felt like it came on around 3500 and the car pulls straight to the factory rev limiter really hard in all gears. I always thought my low end was a little less due to the big 2.02 valves I have but the motor screamed. I will have the new set-up started for the first time tonight, I'll post how it feels but I need to baby the T-5 to break it in as I just rebuilt it with all new internals, the other one was trashed bad! ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! |
Hey Rick...how do you like that C&L 76?? I have heard a lot of different opinions. Trying to decide between that and a Pro-M 77.
Thanks Buddy ------------------ Dustin 93 Cobra 261 rwhp 89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp(TFS Intake,TFS Heads, BD-11A 9#,Ecam,1.6 rr's, BBK longtubes, lots more... |
Well I switched back to the 24#ers and am going to try that to see if i can get it worked out. I will keep you posted.
------------------ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, Holley Heads, Intake, and Cam package, 70 mm Throttle body and Mass Air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears 50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light |
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------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! |
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