4 cyl to 418 stroker needs help
 

need a little advice

What do you need advice on?????
I run a big windsor myself!:cool: (a little bigger too)

418 conversion
 

where to begin?

Lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

and then more.....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

and just when you think you are done...more$$$$$$$$$

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where did you start your car looks bad ass, what your cid?

Ok.....thanks.

What do you have for starters if anything?

Do you have anyting on the car as of yet or is it a bare shell?

Is this your daily driver?

How fast do you want to go?

What is the main intent of the build? strip, road race, street only.. what?

How much do you want to spend?

What are your mech abilites?


Is this your first car build or have you done other builds? (Chevy, Mopar)?
Once you answer these questions I can close in on what to do and how much.

418 stroker
 

i will have my motor in about a month. i m new around here so i dont really know to many stang heads and the ones ive met are a bunch of f!#@ heads so im wondering what to start with 1 the engine bay 2 the interrior 3 the chassis Ihave a 92 lx coupe bone stock. just took the hood off and pass seat out thats it my engine is a 418 cid with all the goodies in it. what kind of trick flows do you have and whats you port? cam,intake, compression.hp, tourqe and have you ran your car yet it looks awesome please tell me the color is not tangerene orange kandy.

No the color is a factory color.
Wild strawberry.

Who built your motor?
And is it a 5-speed or auto?
Your car is going to need the following unless you already have it.
8-10+ point cage
Battle boxes
After market rear control arms.
I prefer a complete Aeromotive fuel system...
A-1000 pump
13204 bypass regulator
Fuel log
-10 feed line
-8 return line.
Msd ignition...complete! 6al or 7 al-2....with the billet dist., blaster 3 coil (min), MSD wires, 2-step, multi-step retard, etc.
Suspension..
70/30 lakewood struts
4 cyl springs
50/50 shocks
battery relocated to the trunk.
remove the sway bar if your into drag racing
28x10.5 slicks,etc,
...these are minimum things that you would need, but can upgrade all of them.

418 help
 

thanks for helping ,allright my motor is bieng built bye ford performance solutions you prob know of him he is very good plus i get a really good price to. i have built 2 other engines 306,347but i have not went all out. i have allways wanted this car so i can almost afford this not really oh well my engine cost me almost $9500 so im in now my problem is i bought a 92 vert dumb idea paid way to much 3000 now im selling it for 2000 very clean car anyway the trans will be a strong c4 i get lifetime warrany and i can send it in every year for rebuild i am going to put a 8 -10 pt plus all the control arms and stuff i just dont were to begin i want to do it fast but that not allays good huh. is your car efi or carb mine is a carb 850 speed demon prob 2inch headers what kind of comp is your engine?mine is 13.5 1/2 to 1. i have to run at least 110 oct prob vp maybe sunoco i dont know if i should tub or drag rad i hope to be able to drive on the street the converter will probably be 4500 but i dont know yet.what do you run ? what is your engine size? and you do use nos? curious to see what you run i want to be in 9s or very low 10s 8s would be great. phil clemmons ran a 8.39 in the drag rad at nmra event here in kc it was awseome i live like 5 miles from the track (kcir)

Re: 418 help
 

Price is good!
Mine is close to that combo. Sounds like you are going to run a solid roller...Duration at .050 is going to be at least 250+ so that means the speed demon is out of the question. Mighty Demon is what I have and sounds like that is what you will most likey need or a Race Demon. 850 cfm is about what I would say to run too. Not any bigger. If Holley carb... a 950hp or 1050hp would be in order.
As goes for traction....how much of a power adder are you thinking about,... if any?
Anything more then a 275 shot?
If so you might want to consider a glide due to traction issues! If you do hook (very possiable) with a C-4...you will be fighting to keep the front tires as close to the ground as possiable! Other wise the back bumper might get some scratches.:D

The converter I run and O N L Y converter I would run is a TCT converter from Lenny. I run a 4800 stall 9 inch with 8 inch billet sprag. (3% slippage) Very loose bottom end and locks up hard on the top end! Car runs REAL HARD! 10's on nuts in pump gas tune!

If your is done the way I think it is (with the parts mentioned) you should be able to run a 10.20 or faster on motor. Depending on the cam profile (more for nitrous or motor). At that speed a 250 shot should drop you a full second. If you can make it leave straight and not wheel stand.
As goes for what engine size I have....it's in my name! and nitro means nitrous.

418
 

i know its a solid roller i cant remember the exact cam specs i think it was 278 dur 578 lift and a 107 or 108 lobe center they custom grined to match my heads and porting intake damm ol lady moves shit all the time cant find anything

418
 

what model of tfs heads are you running? and how much cfm?

tfs-r

Throwing in my 2 cents...
 

Building pretty much the same thing myself (410) but building everything on my own. Taking out my mighty 302 that could (and did!) Started with a 1969 351 block, and went from there. 420Nitro is dead on with everythig so far, but here's a few smaller probs you might over look.

Headers, go with Hooker Super comps, and bring your checkbook. If you run TFS R or even a high port head, now you're talking cu$tom header$. Crossmember, 4 cyl has a whimpy (bendable) crossmember. Fuel issues, how to get it outta the tank??? Go sump, or fuel cell. Right now I have a Granatelli pickup, but I'm guessing it's not gonna cut it. -10 carb, -6 for Nitrous side, no return. Rethinking that too.

My adivce on where to start, just start. You know the motor's coming, so get the rest of the driveline taken care of. Get the rear end out, put in battle boxes, new control arms, get that taken care of. Get the tranny in, driveshaft (don't forget the safety hoop) crossmember. You get the idea. Have it as far along as you can, so when the motor shows up, slide her on in and go!

Good luck, and keep us posted! My block is just now heading to the machine shop, so I'm a month or so out. Hopefully this summer though!!!

:cool:
At this level.....we don't want to run the stock tank! Put the fuel cell in and run the lines from the sump. Safer for you as a driver and better for the pump.

Headers.... we/you/anyone else/ gonna want at least a 1 7/8 headers if not a step header that will go from a 1 7/8 to a 2 inch or just go straight to a 2 inch header. At that point fit really becomes an issue! I can get the HOOK UP on Kook headers!!!!!!! They are worth the $$$$...120%!!! If you are intrested in a set of Kook headers,.. send me a PM and I will see if I can help you enough,... to persway ya!;)

Fuel system...for a big windsor (400+ cubes)
You want a -10 feed and -8 return. No dead head fuel system.
I got the hook up on that too! :D :D ;)

jester here you go of those pics we discussed...

another

This is what I have to work with. Battery (after I got to thinking about it) is where it is now because of the stock fuel tank. Once that leave, my options are a bit more flexible. Right now I have about 17" or so between the back of the battery box, and the back of the hatch.

I'm also gonna have to get rid of the spare tire well, and build a rear firewall. Arrrgh!!! On a good note, the car is getting VERY good at sucking up cubic dollars! hehehe

Close up of my bottle, thought you guys would get a kick out of it. Have a "d-Con Racing" decal on the car too, and the best part of it is that none of the bowtie MOUSE motor guys seem to get it. hehehehehe

Even closer up of the bottle. I'm such a smart ass. The big black flag reads "Dead rodents start to appear 11 - 12 seconds after spraying." Guess I'm gonna have to change that too! HA! I also have the obligatory "Keep out of reach of children (and some adults), inhalation may cause laughter, and extensive use may lead to the winner's circle."

d-Con Racing
Kills mice dead.

Who's on board????? LOL

Fuel Log
 

Hers that pic of the Fuel Log.

hello any one here?

paint ?
 

i see 420,jester cars are real nice did you guys paint your cars before you did your work? i have a guy that will paint my car any color i want (house of kolor kandy tangerien) for the cost of the products. both of the cars are very clean i hope mine will be half as nice as your cars

Well thanks dude! 420'S car is Wild Strawberry (I'm pretty sure!!) and the pics just don't do my paint any justice at all. Mine is a QUAD coat Laser Red with ghost flames. The flames are a little more hidden than I wanted, but they're cooler than I thought this way. Driving down the street, they just jump out at you.

As for your question, yes I painted mine first. But it did have a pretty decent 302 in it at the time, so at least I could drive it when it was done. Now it's sitting in my garage up on 4 jackstands collecting dust, and watching the pile of new parts get bigger. hehehehehe

paint
 

i didnt notice the ghost flames thats what i want but not sure yet went the nmra event here in town and it was the first one here in kc i still cant believe clemmons went 8.39 on a drag radiel that was very impressive to see

Try and hit one of the Fun Ford Weekends, there's a show! Street Renegades carrying the wheels the entire length of the track, cars running 8.90 on radials, 7's on 10.5" tires. True Street cars pulling parachutes after a 30 mile street cruise. Turbo cars EVERYWHERE, blowers, nitrous, ho ho ho ho ho (Tim Allen impression! HA!) Ours is this weekend at Norwalk, getting all psyched about it, even though my car is staying at home.