408 all motor or Twin turbo 302?

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-21-2001, 09:55 PM

Need some thoughts?
incon twin turbo on stock 302 or a 408 fuel injected, roller cam, trick flow T/W, trick flow 351 intake?

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).
My Stang

jonnyk · 02-21-2001, 10:49 PM

The Incons will probably be a heckuva lot cheaper, and they have awesome streetability. A 408 conversion could turn into a PIA, and can get expensive in a big hurry. I'll probably take the Incon route myself once the funds allow.

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1991 LX Hatch 5.0L

brooksgnm · 02-21-2001, 10:52 PM

I'd agree first go with the incon twin turbo. Then when you have funds build a twin turbo 408!! Heh!!

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85 GT many mods drag car
84 SVO auto x type car

BlackFly · 02-23-2001, 11:18 PM

I to must agree, the incon is probably your best bet. Your car will run normal when driven so, and like a raped ape when you rug it. Plus, any mods you make to the 302 after, like heads or intake, will only compound your fun. The typical mods only make even more power when hooked to a turbo, can you say holy $**t, hang on.

84_GT350 · 02-24-2001, 12:34 AM

Chalk up another Incon vote. Sure, they may be a bit more involved to install, but they'll be cheaper (probably) and make as much or more power with a well matched kit.

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1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

NO SLO PK · 02-24-2001, 05:13 PM

I guess I'm the minority here. After using forced induction for over 100k miles I can say that it's generally a pain in the a** on reliability and tuning. In addition, turbos are more complex than blowers because of the tremendous amount of underhood heat that needs to be dealt with. Besides, you won't be stressing a windsor block at 500+ hp, but that is a threshold for the 302 block. I guess it depends on what you are looking for.

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'91 LX
Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.

[This message has been edited by NO SLO PK (edited 02-24-2001).]

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-24-2001, 10:36 PM

Thanks Yall, but Im going to build a 351w

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).
My Stang

LOWKEY · 02-25-2001, 02:19 PM

I think I going to agree too. Forced induction is great and all but its just not the same. My next motor is going to be a 8k rpm solid roller 408....shooting for 500hp at the wheels..

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89'notch

331ci Scat Stroker, Stage II Holley heads, ported Holley Systemax Intake, 70mm Holley TB, 50lb Holley Fuel Injectors, 80mm Pro-m MAF, AFM B-3 cam, Vortech S-trim Supercharger, AFM Powerpipe, EEC-Tuner, TKO, Koni, Eibach, HPM, etc...

Beaten Daily..

http://lowkey.stangnet.com

02-21-2001, 09:55 PM	#1
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	408 all motor or Twin turbo 302? Need some thoughts? incon twin turbo on stock 302 or a 408 fuel injected, roller cam, trick flow T/W, trick flow 351 intake? ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!). My Stang

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02-21-2001, 10:49 PM	#2
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	The Incons will probably be a heckuva lot cheaper, and they have awesome streetability. A 408 conversion could turn into a PIA, and can get expensive in a big hurry. I'll probably take the Incon route myself once the funds allow. ------------------ 1991 LX Hatch 5.0L

02-21-2001, 10:52 PM	#3
brooksgnm Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Union, Ohio, USA Posts: 582	I'd agree first go with the incon twin turbo. Then when you have funds build a twin turbo 408!! Heh!! ------------------ 85 GT many mods drag car 84 SVO auto x type car

02-23-2001, 11:18 PM	#4
BlackFly Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: winnipeg , manitoba , canada Posts: 83	I to must agree, the incon is probably your best bet. Your car will run normal when driven so, and like a raped ape when you rug it. Plus, any mods you make to the 302 after, like heads or intake, will only compound your fun. The typical mods only make even more power when hooked to a turbo, can you say holy $**t, hang on.

02-24-2001, 12:34 AM	#5
84_GT350 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Overland Park, KS, USA Posts: 1,631	Chalk up another Incon vote. Sure, they may be a bit more involved to install, but they'll be cheaper (probably) and make as much or more power with a well matched kit. ------------------ 1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

02-24-2001, 05:13 PM	#6
NO SLO PK Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Arcadia, CA, USA Posts: 731	I guess I'm the minority here. After using forced induction for over 100k miles I can say that it's generally a pain in the a** on reliability and tuning. In addition, turbos are more complex than blowers because of the tremendous amount of underhood heat that needs to be dealt with. Besides, you won't be stressing a windsor block at 500+ hp, but that is a threshold for the 302 block. I guess it depends on what you are looking for. ------------------ '91 LX Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles. [This message has been edited by NO SLO PK (edited 02-24-2001).]

02-24-2001, 10:36 PM	#7
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	Thanks Yall, but Im going to build a 351w ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!). My Stang

02-25-2001, 02:19 PM	#8
LOWKEY Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: greenvile, NC Posts: 161	I think I going to agree too. Forced induction is great and all but its just not the same. My next motor is going to be a 8k rpm solid roller 408....shooting for 500hp at the wheels.. ------------------ 89'notch 331ci Scat Stroker, Stage II Holley heads, ported Holley Systemax Intake, 70mm Holley TB, 50lb Holley Fuel Injectors, 80mm Pro-m MAF, AFM B-3 cam, Vortech S-trim Supercharger, AFM Powerpipe, EEC-Tuner, TKO, Koni, Eibach, HPM, etc... Beaten Daily.. http://lowkey.stangnet.com