92 conv GT vs 95 Z28 m6

Dave_mustang_50 · 01-05-2001, 06:37 PM

I finally got to run a late model camaro! It wasnt much of a race though, he said he was stock and I would have to believe him. We ran 3x from a stop and once from a roll. I thought it would have been faster. I left him hard and kept pulling until I shut down at third as he was a few lengths behind. Now I need to hunt down an ls1. Anyone know what this car should do? I think the 99 Gt I ran would take this guy.

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92 Rag Top GT
Holley Systemax 2 Heads,Intake,Cam,Pro-M 77,24 pph injectors,65mm throttle body,1.7 rr, Mac long tube headers w/hi flo cats, Force 2 catback,Pro 5.0, Pulleys,K&N, Alum DS,3 core radiator, subframe connectors,3.73`s, Nitto DR`s and a Heavy Foot.

SaleenGTS · 01-06-2001, 11:19 AM

I have a friend with a 92&SystemMax 2. He ran a best od 13.3 on street tires. Most LT-1's I see are in the 13.80-14.2 neighborhood. The LS-1's though are bad....expect 13.4-13.7's from a 6M. A SS or WS-6 would probably spell defeat for your convert. My buddy ran nose to nose with a 99 WS-6. Good Luck in your pursuit.

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Dustin
1990 Saleen GTSport #14
TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower(Black), TFS TW heads, TFS 3/8" Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam, FMS 1.6 Roller Rockers, BBK 70mm TB, FMS 70mm MAF, MAC 1 5/8" Equals, Dynomax Super Turbo 2 1/2" cat back, Bassani 2 1/2" Off-Road X-Pipe, MSD 6AL Ignition w/ MSD TFI Coil, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension

60ft: 2.158
330ft: 5.396
660ft: 8.271 @ 91.43

90dpscoupe · 01-06-2001, 11:57 PM

Dave i think Ls1 season is open all year with mods like that!, i hope you can pull on the top end though, heck my car is stock and i posted several times about running "door to door" with ls1's, never beat one, but wasted many of lt1's and irocs.

Ls1's are badass, and they're always putting up good numbers, but on the street it's a different story.

LS1JAY · 01-08-2001, 07:25 PM

LS1's pull hard on the top end, it's a fairly high RPM motor, my basicaly stock automatic with 273's will shift at 6,000 RPM's in overdrive, it's a pretty heavy car, plus I weigh 190+ at 6ft tall, I had hoped my car would run mid 13's but it actualy felt slower than my 90' Formula 350 which ran 13.41@101+
with 1.8 60ft times on dragradials! when I took the LS1 to the track the other day on street tires it ran 13.17@106.49 with a 1.996 60ft! they pull hard on the top end!but less on the bottom, unless you run gears and a converter.

[This message has been edited by LS1JAY (edited 01-08-2001).]

93SVTstang · 01-08-2001, 07:33 PM

LS1Jay, what kind of LS1 do you have? What kind of mods? If it is stock...I hate to say it, but I think I want to sell my Cobra to get one.

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93SVTstang-93 Cobra: 80mm MAF, K&N, 8mm plug wires, shorty headers, off road h-pipe, Borla Cat-back, centerforce clutch, hurst shifter, 3:55s

Fox Body · 01-08-2001, 07:46 PM

WHAT?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“…because, no one’s really gonna be free until nerd persecution ends.” ---Revenge of the Nerds

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'79 Mustang Coup
4" Cowl
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8)
Stock 5.8L
C4 w/ shift kit
1.5" MAC full length headers
Holley 750 CFM
Edelbrock intake
2.5" Off road H-pipe
8.8" Rear end w/ 2.73:1 gears (sucks!) (awaiting installation of 3.55s)
Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
Sucky Purolator air filter that's choking my car.

[This message has been edited by Fox Body (edited 01-08-2001).]

93SVTstang · 01-08-2001, 08:53 PM

I probably won't sell it Fox Body because of it being rather rare, but it just makes me soooo mad that these GMs are faster than my car from the factory. You have no idea how mad this makes me...that is why I was heading for the "if you can't beat em, join em"

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93SVTstang-93 Cobra: 80mm MAF, K&N, 8mm plug wires, shorty headers, off road h-pipe, Borla Cat-back, centerforce clutch, hurst shifter, 3:55s

Fox Body · 01-08-2001, 09:38 PM

I hope there's a hint of joking in your statement about selling the Cobra. That is the ideal car to build. If you sell that car and buy an LS1, that'll be one of the biggest mistakes in your life and this has nothing to do with the rarity of your car. Dude, not only do you have a Mustang, you have a 93 Cobra. Yeah, my '79 in 1979 wasn't as fast as an LS1 in '01, but my '79 in '01 is faster.

“…because, no one’s really gonna be free until nerd persecution ends.” ---Revenge of the Nerds

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'79 Mustang Coup
4" Cowl
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8)
Stock 5.8L
C4 w/ shift kit
1.5" MAC full length headers
Holley 750 CFM
Edelbrock intake
2.5" Off road H-pipe
8.8" Rear end w/ 2.73:1 gears (sucks!) (awaiting installation of 3.55s)
Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
Sucky Purolator air filter that's choking my car.

90dpscoupe · 01-09-2001, 01:52 AM

I am just not seeing these a4 ls1's run 13.1(without converter) stock? maybe 13.6, i don't buy it, nope, and i will never have the "cant beat em join em" attitude because i saw a 93 cobra stompin on ls1's all day, it was on slicks and dont know what else, but i saw him miss 2nd and still turn 11.8 at 118 mph!

And that friends is what thrills me to death

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90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows.
Best time: 14.20(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph 97.80
Best 60' 2.1
next mods: subframes, 3.73's

SMOKE · 01-09-2001, 04:44 PM

Fox Body I think you're on the money.
"Yeah, my '79 in 1979 wasn't as fast as an LS1 in '01, but my '79 in '01 is faster"

93SVTstang it has been 8 years for the GM to come up to speed. Factory hp is great but I think I speak for a lot of blue oval guys ... you have a sweet car to build on.

But, not to beat the point home. The LS1s are easy 13sec cars off the show room floor.
Mustangs still have a ways to go.
But, I'll keep mine either way.

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01-05-2001, 06:37 PM	#1
Dave_mustang_50 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 483	92 conv GT vs 95 Z28 m6 I finally got to run a late model camaro! It wasnt much of a race though, he said he was stock and I would have to believe him. We ran 3x from a stop and once from a roll. I thought it would have been faster. I left him hard and kept pulling until I shut down at third as he was a few lengths behind. Now I need to hunt down an ls1. Anyone know what this car should do? I think the 99 Gt I ran would take this guy. ------------------ 92 Rag Top GT Holley Systemax 2 Heads,Intake,Cam,Pro-M 77,24 pph injectors,65mm throttle body,1.7 rr, Mac long tube headers w/hi flo cats, Force 2 catback,Pro 5.0, Pulleys,K&N, Alum DS,3 core radiator, subframe connectors,3.73`s, Nitto DR`s and a Heavy Foot.

01-06-2001, 11:19 AM	#2
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	I have a friend with a 92&SystemMax 2. He ran a best od 13.3 on street tires. Most LT-1's I see are in the 13.80-14.2 neighborhood. The LS-1's though are bad....expect 13.4-13.7's from a 6M. A SS or WS-6 would probably spell defeat for your convert. My buddy ran nose to nose with a 99 WS-6. Good Luck in your pursuit. ------------------ Dustin 1990 Saleen GTSport #14 TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower(Black), TFS TW heads, TFS 3/8" Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam, FMS 1.6 Roller Rockers, BBK 70mm TB, FMS 70mm MAF, MAC 1 5/8" Equals, Dynomax Super Turbo 2 1/2" cat back, Bassani 2 1/2" Off-Road X-Pipe, MSD 6AL Ignition w/ MSD TFI Coil, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension 60ft: 2.158 330ft: 5.396 660ft: 8.271 @ 91.43

01-06-2001, 11:57 PM	#3
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	Dave i think Ls1 season is open all year with mods like that!, i hope you can pull on the top end though, heck my car is stock and i posted several times about running "door to door" with ls1's, never beat one, but wasted many of lt1's and irocs. Ls1's are badass, and they're always putting up good numbers, but on the street it's a different story.

01-08-2001, 07:25 PM	#4
LS1JAY Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Central Florida Posts: 102	LS1's pull hard on the top end, it's a fairly high RPM motor, my basicaly stock automatic with 273's will shift at 6,000 RPM's in overdrive, it's a pretty heavy car, plus I weigh 190+ at 6ft tall, I had hoped my car would run mid 13's but it actualy felt slower than my 90' Formula 350 which ran 13.41@101+ with 1.8 60ft times on dragradials! when I took the LS1 to the track the other day on street tires it ran 13.17@106.49 with a 1.996 60ft! they pull hard on the top end!but less on the bottom, unless you run gears and a converter. [This message has been edited by LS1JAY (edited 01-08-2001).]

01-08-2001, 07:33 PM	#5
93SVTstang Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Metairie, LA, United States Posts: 80	LS1Jay, what kind of LS1 do you have? What kind of mods? If it is stock...I hate to say it, but I think I want to sell my Cobra to get one. ------------------ 93SVTstang-93 Cobra: 80mm MAF, K&N, 8mm plug wires, shorty headers, off road h-pipe, Borla Cat-back, centerforce clutch, hurst shifter, 3:55s

01-08-2001, 07:46 PM	#6
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	WHAT?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “…because, no one’s really gonna be free until nerd persecution ends.” ---Revenge of the Nerds ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup 4" Cowl Weld wheels (15x6;15x8) Stock 5.8L C4 w/ shift kit 1.5" MAC full length headers Holley 750 CFM Edelbrock intake 2.5" Off road H-pipe 8.8" Rear end w/ 2.73:1 gears (sucks!) (awaiting installation of 3.55s) Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Sucky Purolator air filter that's choking my car. [This message has been edited by Fox Body (edited 01-08-2001).]

01-08-2001, 08:53 PM	#7
93SVTstang Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Metairie, LA, United States Posts: 80	I probably won't sell it Fox Body because of it being rather rare, but it just makes me soooo mad that these GMs are faster than my car from the factory. You have no idea how mad this makes me...that is why I was heading for the "if you can't beat em, join em" ------------------ 93SVTstang-93 Cobra: 80mm MAF, K&N, 8mm plug wires, shorty headers, off road h-pipe, Borla Cat-back, centerforce clutch, hurst shifter, 3:55s

01-08-2001, 09:38 PM	#8
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	I hope there's a hint of joking in your statement about selling the Cobra. That is the ideal car to build. If you sell that car and buy an LS1, that'll be one of the biggest mistakes in your life and this has nothing to do with the rarity of your car. Dude, not only do you have a Mustang, you have a 93 Cobra. Yeah, my '79 in 1979 wasn't as fast as an LS1 in '01, but my '79 in '01 is faster. “…because, no one’s really gonna be free until nerd persecution ends.” ---Revenge of the Nerds ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup 4" Cowl Weld wheels (15x6;15x8) Stock 5.8L C4 w/ shift kit 1.5" MAC full length headers Holley 750 CFM Edelbrock intake 2.5" Off road H-pipe 8.8" Rear end w/ 2.73:1 gears (sucks!) (awaiting installation of 3.55s) Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Sucky Purolator air filter that's choking my car.

01-09-2001, 01:52 AM	#9
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	I am just not seeing these a4 ls1's run 13.1(without converter) stock? maybe 13.6, i don't buy it, nope, and i will never have the "cant beat em join em" attitude because i saw a 93 cobra stompin on ls1's all day, it was on slicks and dont know what else, but i saw him miss 2nd and still turn 11.8 at 118 mph! And that friends is what thrills me to death ------------------ 90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows. Best time: 14.20(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph 97.80 Best 60' 2.1 next mods: subframes, 3.73's

01-09-2001, 04:44 PM	#10
SMOKE Old School ROUSH Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Stockbridge, GA Posts: 531	Fox Body I think you're on the money. "Yeah, my '79 in 1979 wasn't as fast as an LS1 in '01, but my '79 in '01 is faster" 93SVTstang it has been 8 years for the GM to come up to speed. Factory hp is great but I think I speak for a lot of blue oval guys ... you have a sweet car to build on. But, not to beat the point home. The LS1s are easy 13sec cars off the show room floor. Mustangs still have a ways to go. But, I'll keep mine either way.