Airbags?

5.0 Pony · 06-18-2002, 10:41 PM

I'm looking to buy an 87-93 LX 5.0 vert and I have to have airbags. Almost every stang i look at that i want to buy doesn't have airbags. Is there anyway that i can convert it to Aribags? This would be really great. THANKS!

90LxDroptop · 06-19-2002, 01:13 AM

Here's a question I CAN ANSWER! i think. Well I'm pretty sure airbags only came on the 90' stangs (25th anniversary) My Vert has em'. as for converting, I dunno.

93GTDIN · 06-19-2002, 01:33 AM

thats actually not true. I believe 90 (or 89 maybe) Is when ford made driver side airbags standard on mustangs. Dual airbags came standard in 1994 when the sn95 was introduced

fiveohpatrol · 06-19-2002, 01:38 AM

it was 1990 when they became standard in mustangs.

thats when they got that even more hideous steering wheel

PKRWUD · 06-19-2002, 04:06 AM

Just get a '90 or newer Mustang. Anything is possible if you have the money, but retrofitting a pre '90 just wouldn't be worth it, IMO.

Take care,
-Chris

90LxDroptop · 06-19-2002, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 93GTDIN
thats actually not true. I believe 90 (or 89 maybe) Is when ford made driver side airbags standard on mustangs. Dual airbags came standard in 1994 when the sn95 was introduced

I was just refering to his question and I meant only fox body verts. that had it were 90's.

HORSEMEN RACING · 06-19-2002, 10:35 AM

I have a question,
what if you have a 90 and want to go the other direction? You know get a stering column from an 87-89 Mustang? Because you can't stand the air bag?

Guess that tells you what year Mustang I have and the type of steering wheel. LOL

But has anyone ever made that conversion?

RPM427 · 06-19-2002, 12:45 PM

If you wanted to convert to airbags it would be more trouble then its worth. Not only would you have to find and install a steering coulumn from a 90 or up stang, you would have to get all of the sensors and wiring harnesses for the airbag. You will also lose the tilt steering wheel. Just save some money and headaches and buy a 90 - 93 stang.

I think the airbag steering wheels look a lot better then the pre 90's cars, by the way

90LxDroptop · 06-19-2002, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RPM427

I think the airbag steering wheels look a lot better then the pre 90's cars, by the way

As do I...as do I...

5.0 Pony · 06-19-2002, 10:22 PM

damn it, o well guess i'll have to just get a newer model, I'll just let my dad knw that so he can chip in a few bucks.

RPM427 · 06-20-2002, 07:26 AM

The 90-93 models are better then the 87-89 on many different reasons. You will like a 90 - 93 a lot more then an older car anyway. And if you come across a 93 mustang that you like, its not true that they have 20 less horse power then all the other models, so don't let that infuence your decision.

93GTDIN · 06-23-2002, 10:52 PM

very true! The 93 models are as good and the 20 less horsepower thing is only partially true. The loss is due to a pileup of changes ford made over the years, and in 93, they decided to toss a new number on there. 93 models do however have hypereutectic pistons, which have been deemed by many not boost/nitrous friendly. This is due mainly to the fact that hypereutectic pistons wont hold up to detonation. The truth is, forged pistons dont hold up well to detonation either. Just..... avoid detonation. I got my 93 about a year and a half ago for 8000. Kind of pricy for a 5.0 but its a GT convertible, had 28000 miles, and was in mint condition when I bought it.

Unit 5302 · 06-24-2002, 12:12 AM

I've driven newer foxes, and I like the older 87-88 SD cars a LOT better than MAF. There are some (few) upgrades worth mentioning.

MAF for those people who are going wild with the combo or adding boost.

91 Featured enlarged front fenderwells and 16" Pony wheels. (Not that the 1987-1989 cars aren't commonly equipped with the 16's now.

Personally, I dislike airbags. Some studies show they help, others that they do not. Personally, I doubt they do anything. All I see is extra expense associated with purchasing a car.

If you have to have airbags, you should get a 1989 with drivers side, or 90+ the 5.0's are all standard drivers side anyway. There were changes to the gauge cluster when the airbags were introduced, along with the wiring changes.

HORSEMEN RACING · 06-24-2002, 11:56 AM

Not to start an arguement,but no 89 Mustang came with an airbag steering wheel.

The standard driver's side airbag started in 90,and for 12 plus years I have hated myself for buying a car with the piece of crap in it.

Anyone know if a 94-present steering column fits in a 90-93 Mustang,the reason being I am looking for a tilt-steering wheel,if I cannot ditch the air bag,then at least let me get one with a tilt-column.

As always any and all advice is welcomed.

5.0 Pony · 06-25-2002, 12:48 AM

actually some mustangs did come with airbags before 1990, just that it was an option.

RPM427 · 06-25-2002, 07:49 AM

I've never heard of that. Where did you hear it? I am interested.

PKRWUD · 06-25-2002, 08:01 AM

They were installed in 1989 into 1990 models. 1990 was the "debut" year.

Take care,
-Chris

Chevyguy · 06-25-2002, 10:49 AM

I know that a airbag car can be converted to non Airbag by using a 87-89 steering column, as the dirtbag that stole my 91 LX 5.0 Hatch did that to it, ( and also put a stolen 94 351 Lightning motor in it too) Back then you could get a few hundred $$ for the air bag, used airbags still are worth some cake, I never see them left in the cars in the junkyard that I remember.

HORSEMEN RACING · 06-25-2002, 12:43 PM

well I guess you learn something new everyday,I never knew the airbag was an option on Mustangs,I knew Taurus' had it for awhile,but never heard of it for Mustangs.

Well since everyone says it was an option,I guess I have to believe it,thanks for the correction folks

06-18-2002, 10:41 PM	#1
5.0 Pony Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 127	Airbags? I'm looking to buy an 87-93 LX 5.0 vert and I have to have airbags. Almost every stang i look at that i want to buy doesn't have airbags. Is there anyway that i can convert it to Aribags? This would be really great. THANKS!

06-19-2002, 01:13 AM	#2
90LxDroptop Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arlington Hts. IL Posts: 315	I know... Here's a question I CAN ANSWER! i think. Well I'm pretty sure airbags only came on the 90' stangs (25th anniversary) My Vert has em'. as for converting, I dunno. __________________ 90 LX Convertible 5.0 AOD 3.73 Gears, Underdrive Pulleys, TransGo shift kit, A servo, Subframe Connectors, o/r h-pipe, 2 chamber flows, Pony Wheels

06-19-2002, 01:33 AM	#3
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	thats actually not true. I believe 90 (or 89 maybe) Is when ford made driver side airbags standard on mustangs. Dual airbags came standard in 1994 when the sn95 was introduced __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

06-19-2002, 01:38 AM	#4
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	it was 1990 when they became standard in mustangs. thats when they got that even more hideous steering wheel __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

06-19-2002, 04:06 AM	#5
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Just get a '90 or newer Mustang. Anything is possible if you have the money, but retrofitting a pre '90 just wouldn't be worth it, IMO. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

06-19-2002, 10:35 AM	#7
HORSEMEN RACING Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Camp Pendleton,Cali Posts: 95	Going the other way I have a question, what if you have a 90 and want to go the other direction? You know get a stering column from an 87-89 Mustang? Because you can't stand the air bag? Guess that tells you what year Mustang I have and the type of steering wheel. LOL But has anyone ever made that conversion? __________________ OC "there are 5,000 Army troops sitting on their butts doing nothing,while 2 companies of Marines are securing this island" spoken by a Army General on the Isle of Grenada in 1983

06-19-2002, 12:45 PM	#8
RPM427 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Huntington NY Posts: 573	If you wanted to convert to airbags it would be more trouble then its worth. Not only would you have to find and install a steering coulumn from a 90 or up stang, you would have to get all of the sensors and wiring harnesses for the airbag. You will also lose the tilt steering wheel. Just save some money and headaches and buy a 90 - 93 stang. I think the airbag steering wheels look a lot better then the pre 90's cars, by the way __________________ -1993 Mustang, 900rwhp 03-04 cobra based 4v swap, full Griggs setup, project underway -1994 Ranger w/ 427cid windsor (daily beater) check it out!

06-19-2002, 10:22 PM	#10
5.0 Pony Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 127	damn it, o well guess i'll have to just get a newer model, I'll just let my dad knw that so he can chip in a few bucks.

06-20-2002, 07:26 AM	#11
RPM427 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Huntington NY Posts: 573	The 90-93 models are better then the 87-89 on many different reasons. You will like a 90 - 93 a lot more then an older car anyway. And if you come across a 93 mustang that you like, its not true that they have 20 less horse power then all the other models, so don't let that infuence your decision. __________________ -1993 Mustang, 900rwhp 03-04 cobra based 4v swap, full Griggs setup, project underway -1994 Ranger w/ 427cid windsor (daily beater) check it out!

06-23-2002, 10:52 PM	#12
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	very true! The 93 models are as good and the 20 less horsepower thing is only partially true. The loss is due to a pileup of changes ford made over the years, and in 93, they decided to toss a new number on there. 93 models do however have hypereutectic pistons, which have been deemed by many not boost/nitrous friendly. This is due mainly to the fact that hypereutectic pistons wont hold up to detonation. The truth is, forged pistons dont hold up well to detonation either. Just..... avoid detonation. I got my 93 about a year and a half ago for 8000. Kind of pricy for a 5.0 but its a GT convertible, had 28000 miles, and was in mint condition when I bought it. __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

06-24-2002, 12:12 AM	#13
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	I've driven newer foxes, and I like the older 87-88 SD cars a LOT better than MAF. There are some (few) upgrades worth mentioning. MAF for those people who are going wild with the combo or adding boost. 91 Featured enlarged front fenderwells and 16" Pony wheels. (Not that the 1987-1989 cars aren't commonly equipped with the 16's now. Personally, I dislike airbags. Some studies show they help, others that they do not. Personally, I doubt they do anything. All I see is extra expense associated with purchasing a car. If you have to have airbags, you should get a 1989 with drivers side, or 90+ the 5.0's are all standard drivers side anyway. There were changes to the gauge cluster when the airbags were introduced, along with the wiring changes.

06-24-2002, 11:56 AM	#14
HORSEMEN RACING Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Camp Pendleton,Cali Posts: 95	Not Arguing Not to start an arguement,but no 89 Mustang came with an airbag steering wheel. The standard driver's side airbag started in 90,and for 12 plus years I have hated myself for buying a car with the piece of crap in it. Anyone know if a 94-present steering column fits in a 90-93 Mustang,the reason being I am looking for a tilt-steering wheel,if I cannot ditch the air bag,then at least let me get one with a tilt-column. As always any and all advice is welcomed. __________________ OC "there are 5,000 Army troops sitting on their butts doing nothing,while 2 companies of Marines are securing this island" spoken by a Army General on the Isle of Grenada in 1983

06-25-2002, 12:48 AM	#15
5.0 Pony Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 127	actually some mustangs did come with airbags before 1990, just that it was an option.

06-25-2002, 07:49 AM	#16
RPM427 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Huntington NY Posts: 573	I've never heard of that. Where did you hear it? I am interested. __________________ -1993 Mustang, 900rwhp 03-04 cobra based 4v swap, full Griggs setup, project underway -1994 Ranger w/ 427cid windsor (daily beater) check it out!

06-25-2002, 08:01 AM	#17
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	They were installed in 1989 into 1990 models. 1990 was the "debut" year. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

06-25-2002, 10:49 AM	#18
Chevyguy Backyard Mechanic/Chemist Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Acton MA USA Posts: 435	I know that a airbag car can be converted to non Airbag by using a 87-89 steering column, as the dirtbag that stole my 91 LX 5.0 Hatch did that to it, ( and also put a stolen 94 351 Lightning motor in it too) Back then you could get a few hundred $$ for the air bag, used airbags still are worth some cake, I never see them left in the cars in the junkyard that I remember. __________________ 2001 Crown Vic Maurader Airbox/MAF, DR chip Edel IAS shocks Single exhaust :wtf: 93 P-71 Vic interceptor Backup car now 90 5.0 LX Notch SOLD 74 Chevy Laguna type S-3 454 under construction Currently apart undergoing bodywork.

06-25-2002, 12:43 PM	#19
HORSEMEN RACING Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Camp Pendleton,Cali Posts: 95	WOW well I guess you learn something new everyday,I never knew the airbag was an option on Mustangs,I knew Taurus' had it for awhile,but never heard of it for Mustangs. Well since everyone says it was an option,I guess I have to believe it,thanks for the correction folks __________________ OC "there are 5,000 Army troops sitting on their butts doing nothing,while 2 companies of Marines are securing this island" spoken by a Army General on the Isle of Grenada in 1983

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