something behind the pully.

[fordkid68]

hello-

I am trying to figure out how to get that thing behind the pully off. and what it's called.

it's the pully attached to the crank. the pully came off but the thing behind it is not. probly cuz I have no idea how it is suposed to come off.

thanks
ford kid

[matt1190]

i think you're talking about the harmonic balancer, has hash marks on it, used for timing the engine, etc.,.... well, you can remove it with a slide hammer,,...you screw in some bolts into the threads for the pulley and you pull on those bolts (ie with a slide hammer) to pull the balancer off the crank.

[mustangII460]

Or pick up a harmaonic balancer/steering wheel puller. Can cop a cheap one at a flea market.

[hobgoblin351]

My question is if you're not rebuilding the engine why do you want to pull it off? If you were replacing it, you'd know what it was called. I'm not trying to bust you're chops but if try to start the engine with out it you'll be in big trouble.

[Jeff65]

You need a "puller" to pull the harmonic balancer off. Sears sells a suitable one with bolts you need to make easy work of removing it. Mount puller in front of crankshaft with central screw over crank center. Use bolts to fasten wings of puller to harmonic (you'll find bolt holes in the harmonic). Get everything nice and straight then tighten the center screw and as you do, the harmonic will pull off the crankshaft. If you don't want to spend the money for the puller tool, then rent one at a local "U" rents.

[Rev]

AutoZone or PepBoys will lend you a puller for free with just a security deposite. At least I think they will.

Rev

[fordkid68]

well I am rebuilding the engine. thats why I need to get it off.

if I can't pull together the money to buy A puller. I will try pepboys or autozone.


thanks
ford kid

[joinrdie]

Just a note: Whatever you do, don't use a regular pulley puller on it or you'll destroy it. You might want to have a machinist or somebody look at it to see if it needs to be replaced too. The rubber sometimes gets old and disintegrates.

[Jeff65]

Note: "regular" puller means three finger type that grips the outside edge of the pulley (or the inside edge with the fingers reversed). This kind can damage the harmonic and make it unusable. The kind you need bolts into the holes provided in the harmonic balancer. It uses the bolts to pull the pulley off.

[Dark Knight]

this is what you need

dont forget to pull the bolt out of the middle of it too.. it's bolted to the crankshaft 7/8in socket if I remember...pull the washer off and stick the bolt back in part way, it gives the center rod of the puller something to ride on without trashing the threads..

[Rev]

I think he got this "unknown engine" from a junkyard. To me, that means he needs to replace the balancer. $100 or so for a Ford balancer from a Mustang supply house.

Rev

[fordkid68]

yes I did get it from A junk yard and was planning on replacing the balancer. I am suprised you knew it was from A junk yard with out me actually saying it.


thanks for letting me know that I need A special puller. even though I am replacing it I am sure there will be more engines down the line.



thanks
ford kid

[fordkid68]

well I got A puller. the kind you guys said I needed. it only cost 9.33 at my local parts house. and it works great. do they normally cost more.


thanks
ford kid

[KrivoK]

The one I just bought cost a little bit more ($15) but that's alright.

It seems like we are both going thru the same things at the moment. I can just read your posts and the replys and I don't have to write my own. I do have a question for you though. I do not have the drive pulley off yet. I am having a lot of problems with the main bolt, 15/16 if I remember right, that holds the pulley and the harmonic balancer on. Just can't break it free. Did you have any problems getting that one out? I just turn the whole engine when I crank on it. I had a buddy over last night and we tried to get it with no success. My engine is mounted to a stand and we tried to torque on one of the flywheel bolts as I was torquing on that big one inside the pulley. IT WON'T COME OUT!!! I have soaked it with some penetrating oil and everything. HELP PLEASE?

[matt1190]

I assume you are using a breaker bar? It's best to remove it while its bolted up to the tranny but you should be able to get it if you use a quick, (obviously)counter-clockwise turn on it. Almost like pulling the tablecloth out from under the dining ware. If you go slow you'll just turn the crank.

[KrivoK]

I have not used a breaker bar..........yet. I think I may have another problem. I have already taken the heads off of this engine. It is really easy to turn the crank. No pressure I assume. I do not own a compressor. Therefore, no impact wrench. Do you still think the quick move with the breaker bar will pop that loose?

[fordkid68]

the quick turn on that bolt normally works. what I do is turn the engine slowly clockwise and then jurck it counter-clockwise. that usually works.

how ever it didn't work on this engine so what I did was turned the engine up side down. so the crank is on top. removed the oil pan then put something like A crow bar but with A rounded tip.(not sure what it is called) any ways I put that bar inside the litle hole in the crank."more like an indent then A hole cuz it doesn't go all the way through) the indednt should be right there on the first big blade of the crank. and just held that bar there while turning the breaker bar counter-clock wise. once you got the nut broken loose you can remove the bar that was keeping the crank from moving. but dont hold the crank from any other spot except those indents in the blades. it might damege the crank. at least thats what my mechinist says.


ford kid

[Rev]

I had all manner of hell trying to get that bolt out of my 4Runner v-6 when I was replacing the timing belt. I tried an impact wrench with no luck and almost everything else I could think of. The way I finally got it out was to put a box end wrench on it and beat the wrench about 6 inches from the bolt with a big ball pean hammer until the bolt finally came loose. Worked for me.

Rev

[KrivoK]

I'll keep trying. It needs to come out. I can't believe I am having so much trouble with one bolt. Last night I tried to put a wrench on one of the bolts on the fly wheel and wedge it against the engine stand. It held the crank in place but I had no luck with getting that damn bolt out. I guess I need to go get that breaker bar. I was using a 1/2" drive socket wrench and I was hitting it with a hammer, no luck. It's just being really stubborn.

Fordkid, are sure about placing that bar in those holes? That really looks to me like I could damage something I don't want to. Anyone else have anything to add to that. I also had someone tell me to place a bar in one of the holes on the flywheel to stop the crank from turning. I don't like that idea either. I know I am working with hardened steel and cast iron and what not but, jamming something in-between "vital" parts of an engine that I want to reuse does not sound like something I want to.

Still trying.

[fordkid68]

well if it looks funny to you then dont do it. you may not be seeing the same thing I am.

about that breaker bar. if you dont have one. you could do what I did untill I got one. I used A rachet with A peace of pipe on the end of it for more leverage.if you have A floor jack you can use the extension handle on that. that should give you plenty of leverage. if you dont have one then just try and find A peace of pipe around your house.


ford kid