carb intake?

Ieatcamaros · 06-06-2002, 10:02 PM

I am asking on account of a buddy of mine. He is wanting to run a carburetor instead of messing with the fuel injection. My question is what do you guys think the power difference would be between like the trick flow track heat upper and lower against an edelbrock performer dual plane with a 600 or 650 holley on it. Of course he knows that he will have to change fuel pressure regulators. Thanks for your input.

PKRWUD · 06-06-2002, 10:31 PM

he'll have to change fuel pumps, too. I prefer the RPM intake, but it really depends on what the mods are. If it's bone stock, it won't need more than a Performer and a 1850 600 Holley.

Take care,
-Chris

red82gt · 06-07-2002, 01:29 AM

It would totally depend on the rest of the engine, if the motor needs the airflow of a track heat then the performer won't do, if the motor is mild the track heat would be way too much. The RPM or a torker II would be more like the carb equivalent of a track heat.
I use the edelbrock RPM on my motor, it did 4mph better than my offenhauser dual port and I'm still dialling it in (I've only been to the track once since the switch). He'll have to switch a bunch more than just the fuel pressure regulator too.

PKRWUD · 06-07-2002, 03:07 AM

Yeah, what he said.

Take care,
-Chris

Ieatcamaros · 06-07-2002, 04:54 PM

I thought he could replace just the regulator with a smaller one, instead of changing pumps too. If this is not true, then what is required to make the swap?

So a good carb set up will make more power than a fuel injected set up? What he is looking for is about 350-400hp naturally. This is a street driven car and will stay that way.

Thanks.

red82gt · 06-08-2002, 12:13 PM

You'll need an in tank pick-up, at least a -6 line from the tank to the motor along with all the fittings, either an electric fuel pump or a mechanical one (high volume, low pressure-fuel injection is less volume, high pressure), a low pressure regulator, a new distrbutor, rewiring for the guages and there's probably a bunch more I can't think of right now.

vande97 · 06-09-2002, 01:45 PM

You can still use the stock fuel line that is already there, as i did you jsut have to make a few changes when coming to the carb. You can also keep your wiring for the guages you just have to mesh a couple of wires together form the chassie harness to get power to them , also if you get a used pickup for the gas tank dont use the sending unit from the pickup, it will not read correct you can keep the one from the stock tank that is in the car right now. And you will have correct fuel readings. So that said new Dis, and ignition and you are on the way!!

good luck

vande

Stroked408 · 06-11-2002, 11:10 PM

here is a great site to help with your swap www.fast351.com it is a lot useful info on that site to help with your swap,but if you are only wanting 350-400hp on the motor why not keep the fuel injection? Cold start,parts are already there,no need for a wiring harness lot of pro's and con's to doing the swap,some carb setups make more power and torque than a fuelie but one intake that was not mentioned and it is a killer intake is the Edelbrock RPM AirGap intake manifold,that is a sweet intake also just a thought

Ieatcamaros · 06-12-2002, 10:24 PM

Thanks for the help. He wants to switch to carb. because he hates computers and electronics on the motor. The main reason is because the carb parts are cheaper than fuel injection parts. And he doesn't have to worry about is "this" calibrated with "that" and so on. Thanks once again.

Stroked408 · 06-12-2002, 11:04 PM

yeah that is correct,from the things I have heard and people I talked to it is pretty simple,hope the website helped

Oldschoolpony · 06-13-2002, 12:24 AM

302's and strokers seem to react nicely to the Victor Jr intake. but as posted before, Its all in what the motor has.

06-06-2002, 10:02 PM	#1
Ieatcamaros Domestic Rice really sucks! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: KY Posts: 973	carb intake? I am asking on account of a buddy of mine. He is wanting to run a carburetor instead of messing with the fuel injection. My question is what do you guys think the power difference would be between like the trick flow track heat upper and lower against an edelbrock performer dual plane with a 600 or 650 holley on it. Of course he knows that he will have to change fuel pressure regulators. Thanks for your input. __________________ The sig says it all.

06-06-2002, 10:31 PM	#2
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	he'll have to change fuel pumps, too. I prefer the RPM intake, but it really depends on what the mods are. If it's bone stock, it won't need more than a Performer and a 1850 600 Holley. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

06-07-2002, 01:29 AM	#3
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	It would totally depend on the rest of the engine, if the motor needs the airflow of a track heat then the performer won't do, if the motor is mild the track heat would be way too much. The RPM or a torker II would be more like the carb equivalent of a track heat. I use the edelbrock RPM on my motor, it did 4mph better than my offenhauser dual port and I'm still dialling it in (I've only been to the track once since the switch). He'll have to switch a bunch more than just the fuel pressure regulator too. __________________ 393W: AFR 205's, hydraulic roller, TKO600.

06-07-2002, 03:07 AM	#4
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Yeah, what he said. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

06-07-2002, 04:54 PM	#5
Ieatcamaros Domestic Rice really sucks! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: KY Posts: 973	I thought he could replace just the regulator with a smaller one, instead of changing pumps too. If this is not true, then what is required to make the swap? So a good carb set up will make more power than a fuel injected set up? What he is looking for is about 350-400hp naturally. This is a street driven car and will stay that way. Thanks. __________________ The sig says it all.

06-08-2002, 12:13 PM	#6
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	You'll need an in tank pick-up, at least a -6 line from the tank to the motor along with all the fittings, either an electric fuel pump or a mechanical one (high volume, low pressure-fuel injection is less volume, high pressure), a low pressure regulator, a new distrbutor, rewiring for the guages and there's probably a bunch more I can't think of right now. __________________ 393W: AFR 205's, hydraulic roller, TKO600.

06-09-2002, 01:45 PM	#7
vande97 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: okemos Posts: 205	You can still use the stock fuel line that is already there, as i did you jsut have to make a few changes when coming to the carb. You can also keep your wiring for the guages you just have to mesh a couple of wires together form the chassie harness to get power to them , also if you get a used pickup for the gas tank dont use the sending unit from the pickup, it will not read correct you can keep the one from the stock tank that is in the car right now. And you will have correct fuel readings. So that said new Dis, and ignition and you are on the way!! good luck vande

06-11-2002, 11:10 PM	#8
Stroked408 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southwest Posts: 131	here is a great site to help with your swap www.fast351.com it is a lot useful info on that site to help with your swap,but if you are only wanting 350-400hp on the motor why not keep the fuel injection? Cold start,parts are already there,no need for a wiring harness lot of pro's and con's to doing the swap,some carb setups make more power and torque than a fuelie but one intake that was not mentioned and it is a killer intake is the Edelbrock RPM AirGap intake manifold,that is a sweet intake also just a thought __________________ Deeper,Harder,Faster Stage Deeper Launch Harder Go Faster

06-12-2002, 10:24 PM	#9
Ieatcamaros Domestic Rice really sucks! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: KY Posts: 973	Thanks for the help. He wants to switch to carb. because he hates computers and electronics on the motor. The main reason is because the carb parts are cheaper than fuel injection parts. And he doesn't have to worry about is "this" calibrated with "that" and so on. Thanks once again. __________________ The sig says it all.

06-12-2002, 11:04 PM	#10
Stroked408 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southwest Posts: 131	makes sense yeah that is correct,from the things I have heard and people I talked to it is pretty simple,hope the website helped __________________ Deeper,Harder,Faster Stage Deeper Launch Harder Go Faster

06-13-2002, 12:24 AM	#11
Oldschoolpony Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Gainsville,Fl Posts: 229	if he has enough motor 302's and strokers seem to react nicely to the Victor Jr intake. but as posted before, Its all in what the motor has. __________________ http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?1546

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