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PKRWUD 09-29-2006 01:50 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Are you saying that your balancer is marked for a passenger side pointer?

How do you know it hadn't moved if you can't time it?

Here's the best way to time it, in your circumstance:

Hook up your new vacuum gauge, and start it. Turn the distributor, however you need to, so the you get the highest reading on your vacuum gauge, then retard it until the reading on the gauge goes down 1/2" (half a number). Tighten down the distributor, put away the vacuum gauge, and test drive it.


Let's continue this via email.

pkrwuds@pacbell.net

rwhite65 09-29-2006 03:11 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PKRWUD


Let's continue this via email.

pkrwuds@pacbell.net

Lol, I was just about to ask you that, cause with a little help, I think I can get you the timing numbers you are looking for. Email to follow

Ryan

~The Jester~ 09-30-2006 07:35 AM

Re: carb issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PKRWUD
Well, looks like I lose the farm. lol. It's been my experience for more than 20 years that Mallory makes junk. I will never buy another product of theirs,

Amen Bro!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PKRWUD
all though in all fairness, the coil in our sprint car is a Mallory, and it still works.

Prolly not for long! LOL

Ryan, you said "metal hitting plastic", and loose distributor bolt. Did you yank the cap and make sure the rotor didn't eat the inside of your cap, or vice versa? ;)

rwhite65 09-30-2006 10:59 AM

Re: carb issues
 
No, I got this darn wedding today, so I haven’t been able to do much else tinkering on it. Come Monday, I am going to get a good timing mark set up, and check all of the other stuff...like the cap and electrical pick up thingy.

Right now though, I am somewhat suspicious of my module in the Mallory distributor. It is acting a lot like it did last time it went, although it did a lot more back firing that time. Maybe Rev will chime in here and tell me what his did when it went bad. I also had one go bad and it just wouldn’t start.
Ryan

~The Jester~ 09-30-2006 02:03 PM

Re: carb issues
 
82GT had a few go bad too. Maybe he'll help out here. Maybe time to upgrade to an MSD?

On a side note, My Duraspark has seen 9,000 RPM (crank speed, which is 4,500 ditzy) and NO problems! :eek:

82 GT 09-30-2006 02:40 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Yep, I've had two go bad so far and each time came with NO warning....it just quit! The first time it happened, it just wouldn't start. Second time it happened, I was driving to my friends house and it just quit and left me set along the road until my friend came and towed me home.
Mallory has made a new module called the E module, which is supposed to be better than the original and half the price. That's what I have in now and so far...so good.

Just a reminder though, you CAN NOT jump start a car with the module hooked up with those Mallory modules.
You can also buy an inline filter that protects against current spikes, which is what actually kills the modules. You MUST also run a ballast resistor inline with the module....or it eventually kills the module.
But like I said, the "new" modules are supposed to be not as sensitive to current fluctuations but still need to be taken care of.
I don't like Mallory stuff either but I would still rather have one of their fuel pumps instead of this JUNK Holley blue pump.

Ryan, did you get that book in the mail today? If not, you'll prolly get it Monday. Let me know when it arrives though.

Rev 09-30-2006 02:46 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rwhite65
No, I got this darn wedding today, so I haven’t been able to do much else tinkering on it. Come Monday, I am going to get a good timing mark set up, and check all of the other stuff...like the cap and electrical pick up thingy.

Right now though, I am somewhat suspicious of my module in the Mallory distributor. It is acting a lot like it did last time it went, although it did a lot more back firing that time. Maybe Rev will chime in here and tell me what his did when it went bad. I also had one go bad and it just wouldn’t start. Ryan


When my Unilite modules fail, the engine just stops as if you had turned off the ignition switch. Then it would start right up again for some unknown period of time. I did call Mallory the first time that happened and they told me that was what the module did when it was beginning to fail. I did have one that would cause a backfire because it would turn off the spark momentarily and the turn it back on again. None of this sounds like what your engine is doing though. Wish I could be more help.

Rev

~The Jester~ 09-30-2006 03:42 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 82 GT
I don't like Mallory stuff either but I would still rather have one of their fuel pumps instead of this JUNK Holley blue pump.

You're KILLIN me dude!!! You are one of the FEW peeps I've let tip-toe naked through my brain! LMAO ;)

Something wrong with the mounting on your Blue pump. NOT supposed to be that loud.

The only "official" Mallory product I've owned is a fuel pressure regulator (came with the car) and it now lives in the weeds along side a local race track. Pretty sure it's still there, haven't looked lately. LOL :D

82 GT 09-30-2006 08:59 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~The Jester~
You're KILLIN me dude!!! You are one of the FEW peeps I've let tip-toe naked through my brain! LMAO ;)

Something wrong with the mounting on your Blue pump. NOT supposed to be that loud.

The only "official" Mallory product I've owned is a fuel pressure regulator (came with the car) and it now lives in the weeds along side a local race track. Pretty sure it's still there, haven't looked lately. LOL :D

I don't know what's wrong with it but it's LOUD! I guess the good thing about that, is if I'm driving down the road and I don't hear the pump anymore then I'll IMMEDIATLY know the pump quit. There will be no guess work there as to what happened...LOL

82 GT 09-30-2006 09:10 PM

Re: carb issues
 
BTW, if anybody out there has a mallory fuel pump and wants to trade up for a Holley, then let me know. I'll mail this POS out the same day!
I won't be able to take take it off fast enough!

Dark Knight 10-01-2006 10:05 AM

Re: carb issues
 
Had a couple holley blue pumps... both were louder than hell.. noth are in the dump somwhere. GOt a mallory comp 140, nice and quiet.. sat for a couple years with fuel in it then tried it and it still works.. going on a friends BB 67 coupe.

Holley does make a quiet blue pump now.. but they're almost $100 more than the regular blue pump..

rwhite65 10-01-2006 01:33 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Well, as you can see my plugs look new and the wires are good. This is not the same as when a wire goes bad, because I have had that before too.

82GT-
I have the power module filter thingy on there now. Although, I have jump started the car SEVERAL times this year....so that part I didn’t know. Are you actually saying with that Mallory Unilite, we can’t jump start the cars?? I did get the book, going to study in the squad car tonight with any luck of a dead night. Thanks bro!!

Jester-
I have thought several times of going with the Duraspark, but they are so darn big compared to the nice little Unilite, but then again at least they work.

Unfortunately, I may work on it tom morning, but odds are it will be wed before I can get to it.
Stay tuned,
Ryan

82 GT 10-01-2006 03:24 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rwhite65
82GT-
I have the power module filter thingy on there now. Although, I have jump started the car SEVERAL times this year....so that part I didn’t know. Are you actually saying with that Mallory Unilite, we can’t jump start the cars?? I did get the book, going to study in the squad car tonight with any luck of a dead night. Thanks bro!!

You can jump start the car but you MUST unplug the module before you do it though, otherwise, it slowly kills the module. It's written in the instructions but most people don't read them because they figure they already know how to install a dizzy.

rwhite65 10-01-2006 03:51 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 82 GT
It's written in the instructions but most people don't read them because they figure they already know how to install a dizzy.


We got a comedian in the house everybody :mad: !!

Seriously, I usually read all that stuff, but I guess I didnt read or remember that part. That makes me suspect a little bit more that the module may be bad.

Thanks for the insight bud!
Ryan

82 GT 10-01-2006 04:00 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Wasn't trying to be asmart ass Ryan bacause....everybody has done stuff like before, including myself. I burned a module or two up before I read on their website that you can't jump start them with the module connected.
I wasn't saying just because you knew how to install a dizzy, you didn't bother reading the instructions. I was merely pointing out how easy it can be for people to do that. I'm here to help

rwhite65 10-01-2006 04:01 PM

Re: carb issues
 
[QUOTE=82 GT]
Mallory has made a new module called the E module, which is supposed to be better than the original and half the price. That's what I have in now and so far...so good.

QUOTE]

Is this the one you have now?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Ryan

82 GT 10-01-2006 04:11 PM

Re: carb issues
 
No mine is part# MAA-609 unless they have a new part number for the new module now.

82 GT 10-01-2006 05:16 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Here is the one I have now: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

It replaces the old MAA-609 unit.

rwhite65 10-01-2006 06:07 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Brian-
I was trying to give you a hard time. I know you were not poking fun at me...although you should be. I will have to read up on their site about that. Seems kind of stupid that u have to unplug that to jump start it….. I don’t see how it could start then either.

Thanks for the part number.
Ryan

~The Jester~ 10-01-2006 06:48 PM

Re: carb issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rwhite65
Brian-
I was trying to give you a hard time. I know you were not poking fun at me...although you should be. I will have to read up on their site about that. Seems kind of stupid that u have to unplug that to jump start it….. I don’t see how it could start then either.

Thanks for the part number.
Ryan

I was wondering that same thing! If you unplug the module, how does the car start? :confused:


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