hood not clearing my carbed 302!

WADS56 · 03-17-2003, 09:54 AM

I have a vic jr. intake with a 750cfm hp carb. It looks like I have about 1" for the air cleaner or it will hit the hood. Does the victor jr. intake sit up high or something? Now what?

Dark_5.0 · 03-17-2003, 10:18 AM

What do you mean now what? Now its time for a 3 inch Cobra R hood with an SVO scoop.

Thats how I solved my clearance problem.

cyberstang5.0 · 03-17-2003, 10:42 AM

mine is not carbed, but my Vic. Jr. EFI intake sits a lot higher then the stock one. I'm gald I have my taller hood or I would of run into bigger problems. I want to sell my hood and get a 4" cowl though. I can't make up my mind if I'm going to or not....

WADS56 · 03-17-2003, 11:58 AM

I don't want a new hood because I want the car to look tame. I think I will just look for a very low profile air cleaner and stuff it under there.

429mustang · 03-17-2003, 12:34 PM

Have you set the vicror jr. next to a performer or most other intakes, it definitely sits higher.

Coupe Devil · 03-17-2003, 01:01 PM

Heres something to look at. ATI procharger or K&N makes a Bonnet that sits atop the carb.

Here is a quote from Carb Bonnet Page

A modern bonnet manufactured by ATI and supplied with Procharger systems for carbureted applications. Two variations exist, one has a 3 inch inlet and funnels down to 2.75 inches tall, the other has a 3.5 inch inlet that funnels down to 3.25 inches tall. These retail for about $150, feature a single nipple, and mount to 5 1/8” flanged carburetors such as the modern AFB’s and Holley 4150’s. ATI also produces a bonnet which is exactly the same as the K & N Bonnet (below), the only difference being that it has the logo ‘Procharger’ instead of the ‘K&N’ logo.

Here is the K&N bonnet

Never in the field of human history as carb bonnet been misused in application as the K & N carburetor bonnet. This was designed to allow the remote mounting of an air cleaner in situations of limited hood clearance, which it does very well. However its general availability and relatively cheap price ($100) hs resulted in it being used in many blow through super and turbo charged applications, which it doesn’t do very well. The bonnet seals against the carb and can hold the McCulloch/Paxton pressures, but on the downside it restricts air flow, and results in a notable pressure drop at the carb inlet.

I would get one of those, since it works so wel lfor hood clearance problems as you have. and get a march kit, You might have to fab your own pip from the filter assembly on fender well to the intake bonnet but that could be done easily.

Bradley

Dark Knight · 03-17-2003, 01:41 PM

might try a factory 84-85 aircleaner setup.. but I doubt any will clear without restricting airflow.. DONT get one of those chrome triangle things.. they suck...

what about an early 80's stock hood scoop, and cut a hole...

Coupe Devil · 03-17-2003, 02:43 PM

Make it look like this??

Coupe Devil · 03-17-2003, 02:49 PM

Adding the older style scoop ads about 2.5 inches of hood clearance for the air cleaner by the time you cut the brace on the bottom side of the hood and cut the hole through the hood. My buddies big block car has a scoop in it like that, the air claner seals against the bottomside of the scoop. So he has no "Lid" persay.

drtbiker · 03-17-2003, 07:14 PM

call me cheap call me just plain stupid but i solved my problem by hitting the hood with a hammer lol, talk about trying to cram stuff under the hood. But i just bent a the bar that goes across under the hood and luckly i made enough room for my aftermarket efi intake.

later

rwhite65 · 03-19-2003, 07:07 PM

http://www.ramairbox.com/home_page.html

might help with clearance, depending on model u want and might help a little with performance
Ryan

tireburner163 · 03-20-2003, 01:38 PM

Cut part of the hood brace off. Or put a 80's model scoop on it.

BLACK85GT · 03-21-2003, 04:29 PM

when I bought my hood, it was used, and had an 83 reverse scoop on it, but no hole in the hood. Then i got my Performer RPM intake and it did not clear, so i just cut a hole under the scoop.

tarmon8r · 03-22-2003, 09:55 PM

You could consider drop solid motor mounts. They give you about 1/2" additional space. holcomb motorsports $69

And also consider a drop profile air cleaner, it drops your aircleaner about 3/4", summit racing.

gofastmercury · 03-23-2003, 12:58 AM

I here ya , I really do. When I put my vic jr on my windsor in my comet, I thought I just couldn't do it with a flat hood, which I really like, enough that I would have put the torquer back on if I couldn't get it to work. I used a k/n droped base 14" round unit. Its so low the vent tubes put dents in the lid! (make sure they're cut at a angle), if the hood closes with out a air cleaner, I think this will work for you. Good luck!

WADS56 · 03-24-2003, 09:32 AM

Thanks guys! I think that I am going to try the K&N droped base. I don't want a scoop on my car, and I can't drop the motor 1/2" because it will throw the motor plate out of it's mounting location.

03-17-2003, 09:54 AM	#1
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	hood not clearing my carbed 302! I have a vic jr. intake with a 750cfm hp carb. It looks like I have about 1" for the air cleaner or it will hit the hood. Does the victor jr. intake sit up high or something? Now what? __________________ 79 Hatch: NA 347, Stage 2 Canfield Heads, Victor JR. Intake, Blueprinted Holley 750 HP, Solid Roller Cam, Shooting for 10's on motor 93 LX: Tremec, dual friction clutch, fms flywheel, Hedman shorties, O/R H-pipe Ricer hater's club member #49

03-17-2003, 10:18 AM	#2
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	What do you mean now what? Now its time for a 3 inch Cobra R hood with an SVO scoop. Thats how I solved my clearance problem. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

03-17-2003, 11:58 AM	#4
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	I don't want a new hood because I want the car to look tame. I think I will just look for a very low profile air cleaner and stuff it under there. __________________ 79 Hatch: NA 347, Stage 2 Canfield Heads, Victor JR. Intake, Blueprinted Holley 750 HP, Solid Roller Cam, Shooting for 10's on motor 93 LX: Tremec, dual friction clutch, fms flywheel, Hedman shorties, O/R H-pipe Ricer hater's club member #49

03-17-2003, 12:34 PM	#5
429mustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: westerville, OH USA Posts: 618	Have you set the vicror jr. next to a performer or most other intakes, it definitely sits higher. __________________ 1990 Notchback: BBK Ceramic Coated Full length headers, Dr. Gas 3"- 2 1/2" x-pipe, Flowmaster 40's/turndowns.

03-17-2003, 01:01 PM	#6
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	Heres something to look at. ATI procharger or K&N makes a Bonnet that sits atop the carb. Here is a quote from Carb Bonnet Page A modern bonnet manufactured by ATI and supplied with Procharger systems for carbureted applications. Two variations exist, one has a 3 inch inlet and funnels down to 2.75 inches tall, the other has a 3.5 inch inlet that funnels down to 3.25 inches tall. These retail for about $150, feature a single nipple, and mount to 5 1/8” flanged carburetors such as the modern AFB’s and Holley 4150’s. ATI also produces a bonnet which is exactly the same as the K & N Bonnet (below), the only difference being that it has the logo ‘Procharger’ instead of the ‘K&N’ logo. Here is the K&N bonnet Never in the field of human history as carb bonnet been misused in application as the K & N carburetor bonnet. This was designed to allow the remote mounting of an air cleaner in situations of limited hood clearance, which it does very well. However its general availability and relatively cheap price ($100) hs resulted in it being used in many blow through super and turbo charged applications, which it doesn’t do very well. The bonnet seals against the carb and can hold the McCulloch/Paxton pressures, but on the downside it restricts air flow, and results in a notable pressure drop at the carb inlet. I would get one of those, since it works so wel lfor hood clearance problems as you have. and get a march kit, You might have to fab your own pip from the filter assembly on fender well to the intake bonnet but that could be done easily. Bradley __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

03-17-2003, 10:42 AM	#3
cyberstang5.0 347ci of HORSE POWER!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,416	mine is not carbed, but my Vic. Jr. EFI intake sits a lot higher then the stock one. I'm gald I have my taller hood or I would of run into bigger problems. I want to sell my hood and get a 4" cowl though. I can't make up my mind if I'm going to or not....

03-17-2003, 01:41 PM	#7
Dark Knight Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Az Posts: 854	might try a factory 84-85 aircleaner setup.. but I doubt any will clear without restricting airflow.. DONT get one of those chrome triangle things.. they suck... what about an early 80's stock hood scoop, and cut a hole... __________________ 84 convt,roller 302,AFR's, performer 3.55's, underdrives BBK shorties stock cam, 1.7's 13.58@102.84 and a '68 stang .. project 8 sec street car... 557 big block + N20 :-) http://members.cox.net/darkknight302/68nwrear.jpg

03-17-2003, 02:49 PM	#9
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	Adding the older style scoop ads about 2.5 inches of hood clearance for the air cleaner by the time you cut the brace on the bottom side of the hood and cut the hole through the hood. My buddies big block car has a scoop in it like that, the air claner seals against the bottomside of the scoop. So he has no "Lid" persay. __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

03-17-2003, 07:14 PM	#10
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	call me cheap call me just plain stupid but i solved my problem by hitting the hood with a hammer lol, talk about trying to cram stuff under the hood. But i just bent a the bar that goes across under the hood and luckly i made enough room for my aftermarket efi intake. later __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

03-19-2003, 07:07 PM	#11
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	a different alternative http://www.ramairbox.com/home_page.html might help with clearance, depending on model u want and might help a little with performance Ryan __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored

03-20-2003, 01:38 PM	#12
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	Cut part of the hood brace off. Or put a 80's model scoop on it. __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

03-21-2003, 04:29 PM	#13
BLACK85GT Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tampa,FLORIDA Posts: 340	when I bought my hood, it was used, and had an 83 reverse scoop on it, but no hole in the hood. Then i got my Performer RPM intake and it did not clear, so i just cut a hole under the scoop. __________________ 5.0, Holley heads, 1.7 Scorp Rockers, Stealth intake, Holley 600 carb, Holley Mech. Fuel pump, MSD 6Digital, MSD distributor, Hotchkis upper/lower rear control arms, FMS B Springs, 3:73 (8.8) rear. Production # 9,377

03-22-2003, 09:55 PM	#14
tarmon8r Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: manassas, va Posts: 186	You could consider drop solid motor mounts. They give you about 1/2" additional space. holcomb motorsports $69 And also consider a drop profile air cleaner, it drops your aircleaner about 3/4", summit racing. __________________ 1983 mustang, 393 cubic inch stroker small block, victor jr heads and intake, gold race 1.6 roller rockers. comp cam 304, 244@ .050. .576" hydralic retro roller cam,lunati rods. block was o-ringed,10:1 forged pistons, speed pro fit fit rings, clevite bearings,msd distributor and igniton,be cool huge radiator, black lite electric fan, march underdrive pulleys, mildon deep sump oil pan, mac 1 3.4" long tube headers, 3" dr gas x-pipe and mac exhaust,ARP bolts. car weighs 2900 lbs w/out driver, sub frames, weld wheels, mickey thompson sportsman pro 26 x 10.5 x 15's,#8 fuel line steel braided

03-23-2003, 12:58 AM	#15
gofastmercury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 366	I here ya , I really do. When I put my vic jr on my windsor in my comet, I thought I just couldn't do it with a flat hood, which I really like, enough that I would have put the torquer back on if I couldn't get it to work. I used a k/n droped base 14" round unit. Its so low the vent tubes put dents in the lid! (make sure they're cut at a angle), if the hood closes with out a air cleaner, I think this will work for you. Good luck! __________________ 93LXcopcarSOLD14.3@96 @ 4500ft 2.02 60ft on street tires. my 67 ranchero NOT A 390 ANY MORE! 460! 3.70's cast manifolds, comp cams 262H, performer, 750DP 100K out of 79 F250 NEW(oct20/02)14.58@95mph 2.3 60 ft corrects to:13.86@100 66 merc comet351w, isky roller 600 lift 268/260@.050, vic jr. 700DP, 5000stall, 4.56's c-4, 3400lbs with driver 12.3@110 @ 4000ft 1.69 60 ft corrects to:11.69@115

03-24-2003, 09:32 AM	#16
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	Thanks guys! I think that I am going to try the K&N droped base. I don't want a scoop on my car, and I can't drop the motor 1/2" because it will throw the motor plate out of it's mounting location. __________________ 79 Hatch: NA 347, Stage 2 Canfield Heads, Victor JR. Intake, Blueprinted Holley 750 HP, Solid Roller Cam, Shooting for 10's on motor 93 LX: Tremec, dual friction clutch, fms flywheel, Hedman shorties, O/R H-pipe Ricer hater's club member #49

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