centerforce II vs. duel friction?

GhettoPop · 10-29-2003, 04:49 PM

I decided on a centerforce, now I've heard great things about the duel friction but the expert at the local speed shop recommended the centerforce II. he sells the center force II for around 325, which includes the throw bearing. whats the difference in the two clutches? i'm about to buy the centerforce II, some quick info would be helppful, keep in mind this is a stock stang which is a daily driver with occational beatings!

GhettoPop · 10-30-2003, 09:03 AM

well i found out the following:
centerforce I = grips 30% better than stock
centerforce II = 60%
centerforce DF = 90%

I figure the DF might be an overkill for my stock application, it might cause more wear and tear on drivetrain components. So are they any opinions of the Centerforce II?

Dark_5.0 · 10-30-2003, 09:56 AM

IMO the duel friction feels like crap. Its all or nothing very hard to slip the clutch.

I would get the base model centerforce clutch for your application. Normally the better grabbing clutches have alot of pedal pressure and make driving around town a work out.

86GT · 10-30-2003, 10:32 AM

I have ran the following types of clutches:

Ford Heavy Duty,
Ford Cobra,
Centerforce II,
Dual Friction.

IMO, I like the DF and with a new cable/quadrant, it had pretty good pedal feel. Handles power nicely.

For your current setup, I don't think you can go wrong with the Centerforce II and its easier on your legs, and I liked it more for the commute and in-town stuff. Did well at the track too. Hope that helps.

RoadWarrior · 10-30-2003, 11:00 AM

I had a dual friction in my car and it worked great. Nice pedal feel and it held up behind a decent amount of power pretty well.

Rosco · 10-30-2003, 06:10 PM

I was also running the Dual Friction in my car. But i did notice that there were very thin cracks running on the outside of the pressure plate. Not to sure what that is. But all in all i liked it. I am now running a king cobra clutch assembly. Pedal feel is alot lighter, and it seems to grip the same as the CF DF on my stock application.

10-30-2003, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
IMO the duel friction feels like crap. Its all or nothing very hard to slip the clutch.

I would get the base model centerforce clutch for your application. Normally the better grabbing clutches have alot of pedal pressure and make driving around town a work out.

I'd have to disagree. The Centerforce DF that I have in my '90GT feels great. The easiest clutch to push in that I've had on my car. It doesn't make your leg tired in traffic...and it hooks great even with launching with nitrous on drag slicks. I've had it in for about 7 or 8 years now...which is only about 30K miles...but I've beat on my car many times both on the street and strip. The clutch still feels just like the day it was installed. The DF has my vote.

GhettoPop · 10-31-2003, 11:23 AM

well, i ordered up the Centerforce II, along with a steeda adj. cable, firewall adjuster, quadrant, and a tri-ax shifter. along with a new pilot bearing, throwout bearing, rear main seal, resurface flywheel, and some Redline synthetic, i think i'm all set. did i miss anything?

since a shop is doing all the work, i figure its gonna run about $900, i will post results when i get the car back. as far as breaking in the new clutch, i was told 500 miles of city driving and taking it easy, no downshifting. sounds good?

Scrapla · 10-31-2003, 11:44 AM

I had the king cobra and been doggin that for a while and it works great but that centerforce II should be great also that firewall adj. is the greastes thing I just intsalled one and its awesome but I had to do some minor triming around my clutch cable and you have to remove that copper looking gasket around the hole that goes into the firewall but good luck with your set up.

Coupe50h · 10-31-2003, 03:38 PM

the king cobra is a great clutch, and id say the cf II is similair, my king cobra clutch has survived many hard launches, but is just now starting to slip while powershifting on slicks......DF is going in next.

10-29-2003, 04:49 PM	#1
GhettoPop Gimme a Drink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 694	centerforce II vs. duel friction? I decided on a centerforce, now I've heard great things about the duel friction but the expert at the local speed shop recommended the centerforce II. he sells the center force II for around 325, which includes the throw bearing. whats the difference in the two clutches? i'm about to buy the centerforce II, some quick info would be helppful, keep in mind this is a stock stang which is a daily driver with occational beatings! __________________ 1990 GT,stock T-5,K&N w/o air silencer,March underdrives,FMS wires,timing@14*,PA Perf 130amp alt,Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter,Steeda adj quadrant/clutch cable/firewall adj,Centerforce II clutch,o/r x-pipe,Magnaflow SS catback,g-load brace, subframes,Bilstein struts/shocks,Autometer gauges, 136k and running strong!

10-30-2003, 09:03 AM	#2
GhettoPop Gimme a Drink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 694	well i found out the following: centerforce I = grips 30% better than stock centerforce II = 60% centerforce DF = 90% I figure the DF might be an overkill for my stock application, it might cause more wear and tear on drivetrain components. So are they any opinions of the Centerforce II? __________________ 1990 GT,stock T-5,K&N w/o air silencer,March underdrives,FMS wires,timing@14*,PA Perf 130amp alt,Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter,Steeda adj quadrant/clutch cable/firewall adj,Centerforce II clutch,o/r x-pipe,Magnaflow SS catback,g-load brace, subframes,Bilstein struts/shocks,Autometer gauges, 136k and running strong!

10-30-2003, 09:56 AM	#3
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	IMO the duel friction feels like crap. Its all or nothing very hard to slip the clutch. I would get the base model centerforce clutch for your application. Normally the better grabbing clutches have alot of pedal pressure and make driving around town a work out. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

10-30-2003, 10:32 AM	#4
86GT Sniffed too much n20 Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Ont, Canada Posts: 1,018	I have ran the following types of clutches: Ford Heavy Duty, Ford Cobra, Centerforce II, Dual Friction. IMO, I like the DF and with a new cable/quadrant, it had pretty good pedal feel. Handles power nicely. For your current setup, I don't think you can go wrong with the Centerforce II and its easier on your legs, and I liked it more for the commute and in-town stuff. Did well at the track too. Hope that helps. __________________ 2002 Windsor Weekend Q16 Qualifier

10-30-2003, 11:00 AM	#5
RoadWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Edmonton,Alberta,Canada Posts: 317	I had a dual friction in my car and it worked great. Nice pedal feel and it held up behind a decent amount of power pretty well. __________________ Fast Company

10-30-2003, 06:10 PM	#6
Rosco Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vestal, NY Posts: 307	I was also running the Dual Friction in my car. But i did notice that there were very thin cracks running on the outside of the pressure plate. Not to sure what that is. But all in all i liked it. I am now running a king cobra clutch assembly. Pedal feel is alot lighter, and it seems to grip the same as the CF DF on my stock application. __________________ 1989 Mustang 5.0 Conversion, Full Saleen ground effects and spoiler, '94 saleen decal set, '93 Saleen Seats, Black interior from a '93, Steeda quadrant, smog pump delete, a/c delete, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, '97 rear differential, aluminum driveshaft, 5 lug conversion, '97 rear disc brakes, southside upper and lower control arms, '99 GT Anniversary wheels, flowtech longtubes, flowtech offroad H-pipe, saleen lowering springs, kyb shocks, caster/camber plates

10-31-2003, 11:23 AM	#8
GhettoPop Gimme a Drink! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 694	well, i ordered up the Centerforce II, along with a steeda adj. cable, firewall adjuster, quadrant, and a tri-ax shifter. along with a new pilot bearing, throwout bearing, rear main seal, resurface flywheel, and some Redline synthetic, i think i'm all set. did i miss anything? since a shop is doing all the work, i figure its gonna run about $900, i will post results when i get the car back. as far as breaking in the new clutch, i was told 500 miles of city driving and taking it easy, no downshifting. sounds good? __________________ 1990 GT,stock T-5,K&N w/o air silencer,March underdrives,FMS wires,timing@14*,PA Perf 130amp alt,Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter,Steeda adj quadrant/clutch cable/firewall adj,Centerforce II clutch,o/r x-pipe,Magnaflow SS catback,g-load brace, subframes,Bilstein struts/shocks,Autometer gauges, 136k and running strong!

10-31-2003, 11:44 AM	#9
Scrapla Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 532	I had the king cobra and been doggin that for a while and it works great but that centerforce II should be great also that firewall adj. is the greastes thing I just intsalled one and its awesome but I had to do some minor triming around my clutch cable and you have to remove that copper looking gasket around the hole that goes into the firewall but good luck with your set up. __________________ 90gt 347 and some bolt ons :-) RICE HATERS MEMBER #73

10-31-2003, 03:38 PM	#10
Coupe50h Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 957	the king cobra is a great clutch, and id say the cf II is similair, my king cobra clutch has survived many hard launches, but is just now starting to slip while powershifting on slicks......DF is going in next. __________________ X-Texas highway patrol ssp 1990 coupe - exploder Gt-40 iron heads, Explorer intake, 19 lber's. E-cam. crane 1.7 rollers. 190fp. 75mm maf. 65mm tb, tubular subframe connectors, mac cai, Asp crank pulley, T-5, king cobra clutch, flowtech 1-5/8 unequals, mac X-pipe Frpp driveshaft, lakewood Lca's. race weight 3,160 12.69 @ 107.35, 1.71 60' 26x8.5 drag's 3.90 gear 13.20 @ 106.91 - 235/60/15 firestones 2.3 60' 3.27 gear

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