Chips ( what do they do, how much will it help and the best brand)

Super_Stang · 08-02-2001, 11:06 PM

I have an almost stop 89 gt h.o. I have the following mods ( but i want a Sh!t load more )

BBK cold air
rear gears ( dunno exactly 3.73 i am assuming)
(getting an electric fan)
stock headers but 4 (yes 4 i dunno why the guy did this) cats and 2 chamber 4 ( ps i am gunna gut or remove all of them
and i really want a buncha more mods... but what chip (brand) would be the best to get and how much will i benifit from them?

WADS56 · 08-03-2001, 12:47 AM

On a stock mustang you will see very little or no gains. The only time a chip is worth the money is when you have a load of performance parts. Then you should get a custom one burned on a dyno for your combo to make it worth the money.
Off the shelf chips work good on cars with computer controled transmisions because they can change the shift points.

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NA 347 W/ stage 2 Canfield heads, out of the box Victor 5.0 intake, solid roller cam, Aeromotive fuel system.
MY CAR http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?1288

Mstng93SSP · 08-03-2001, 02:31 AM

I second that. A chip is not really gonna give you much if anything. As for the 4 cats, that sounds like a factory H-pipe, they came with 4. I would suggest a high flow or off road h-pipe, some underdrive pullies and find out your rear end gear ratio. If you jack up the car and mark the driveshaft with a piece of tape, then rotate the rear tire one revolution while counting the number of times the driveshaft turns during one tire revolution will tell you ballpark what gears are in there. One tire revolution, and the driveshaft turns 3 1/2 turns should be 3:55 gears. 3 3/4 is 3:73's, 4 is 4:11's. I think that is how it goes.....??

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93 Police Package, Tremec 3550, Centerforce Clutch, Pro-5.0 Shifter, FMS Aluminum Driveshaft, 373's, Headers, H-Pipe, Strut Tower/G Brace, K&N, Maximum Motorsports brake upgrade kit 14.65 @ 96.8

SlowStang2 · 08-03-2001, 01:34 PM

They aren't all cats. They are 2 resonators, 2 cats, 2 mufflers. I dont know a single person who has kept their resonators.

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94' Stang GT Convertible --Cobra upper&lower, Mac cold air w/K&N, BBK equal length shorties, BBK offroad H-pipe, American Thunder cat-back, BBK T/B 65mm, 24lb injectors, Pro-77mm MAM, pulleys, aluminum driveshaft, 3.55s, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, adjustable fuel regulator 14.4@100 MPH on G-tech;96 at track. (Sad, i know. i have stock heads)

Red514LX · 08-03-2001, 02:14 PM

First of all, I will agree with everyone here -- you do not need a chip at this stage of the game.

I want add something additional, however. A custom burned chip for a higher hp application is great. However, I feel that the BEST way to go is with a new engine management system all together (like Speed-Pro).

It's all about $$ though. A custom chip is going to run you several hundred dollars. Speed-Pro will run you several THOUSAND dollars.

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Jeff Kane
1990 LX Mustang Coupe

LincoConti87 · 08-04-2001, 12:37 PM

For the price of a chip that won't give you anything get some good headers or off road H pipe like mentioned

08-04-2001, 02:32 PM

I bought a ADS chip years ago and it came with 160 therm. The reason is the chip advanced the timing so they cooled the engine to compensate, to keep it from 'pinging'. Add a 180 therm and advance your timing and save your money for something worth a crap(like the h-pipe)

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Rick
My 89lx(updated 7/20/2001)
Sold

[This message has been edited by rbatson (edited 08-04-2001).]

08-04-2001, 10:26 PM

At this stage of the game, don't waste your $$$, a chip won't do anything for you.

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles (no sh*&);3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside welded subs;K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini's 3" turbo hood;A/C delete; gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60')

TEXSN95 · 08-04-2001, 10:53 PM

Yup chips like ADS and hypertech are junk...dont even bother. Save up for some good cheap heads like the GT40P heads. Did I mention chips are junk?

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Clint L.
White 95 Cobra #3637
58cc GT40X heads with mild porting, Crane 2031 cam, FRPP 65 TB, 1.7s, Cobra intake, homeade cold air, 155lph, pullies, Tokico Illuminas, C springs, GW LCAs, Kenny Brown super subs, Steeda CC plates, aluminum driveshaft, Steeda quadrant, B&M ripper, Kirban FPR, MSD6A, Taylor wires, Mac shorties, off road hpipe, 2 1/2 ultra flows w/ dumps, R hood, Euro clear corners, stock 3.08s
13.61 @ 105.7 w/ 2.22 <-- 284 rwhp / 323 rwtq

dinomite · 08-04-2001, 11:08 PM

the stock H-pipe has 4 CATS, not resonators, 4 CATS. if you want to change that, i would suggest a high-flow catted H-pipe, as it provides the back pressure needed to maintain torque on a stock, or lightely modded mustang.

As for a chip, it will do nothing for you on a stock mustang, and if you are gonna get one once you mod your car, get a custom burned one.

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90LX AOD Convertable: Lakewood control arms, FMS springs.
Best 1/4: 15.277@92.25 (2.27 60')
AIM: dinomite1, roadracestang
dinomite@softhome.net

08-02-2001, 11:06 PM	#1
Super_Stang Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Refugio Posts: 67	Chips ( what do they do, how much will it help and the best brand) I have an almost stop 89 gt h.o. I have the following mods ( but i want a Sh!t load more ) BBK cold air rear gears ( dunno exactly 3.73 i am assuming) (getting an electric fan) stock headers but 4 (yes 4 i dunno why the guy did this) cats and 2 chamber 4 ( ps i am gunna gut or remove all of them and i really want a buncha more mods... but what chip (brand) would be the best to get and how much will i benifit from them?

08-03-2001, 12:47 AM	#2
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	On a stock mustang you will see very little or no gains. The only time a chip is worth the money is when you have a load of performance parts. Then you should get a custom one burned on a dyno for your combo to make it worth the money. Off the shelf chips work good on cars with computer controled transmisions because they can change the shift points. ------------------ NA 347 W/ stage 2 Canfield heads, out of the box Victor 5.0 intake, solid roller cam, Aeromotive fuel system. MY CAR http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?1288

08-03-2001, 02:31 AM	#3
Mstng93SSP Registered Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Mililani, Hawaii Posts: 48	I second that. A chip is not really gonna give you much if anything. As for the 4 cats, that sounds like a factory H-pipe, they came with 4. I would suggest a high flow or off road h-pipe, some underdrive pullies and find out your rear end gear ratio. If you jack up the car and mark the driveshaft with a piece of tape, then rotate the rear tire one revolution while counting the number of times the driveshaft turns during one tire revolution will tell you ballpark what gears are in there. One tire revolution, and the driveshaft turns 3 1/2 turns should be 3:55 gears. 3 3/4 is 3:73's, 4 is 4:11's. I think that is how it goes.....?? ------------------ 93 Police Package, Tremec 3550, Centerforce Clutch, Pro-5.0 Shifter, FMS Aluminum Driveshaft, 373's, Headers, H-Pipe, Strut Tower/G Brace, K&N, Maximum Motorsports brake upgrade kit 14.65 @ 96.8

08-03-2001, 01:34 PM	#4
SlowStang2 Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Stuart, FL, US Posts: 147	They aren't all cats. They are 2 resonators, 2 cats, 2 mufflers. I dont know a single person who has kept their resonators. ------------------ 94' Stang GT Convertible --Cobra upper&lower, Mac cold air w/K&N, BBK equal length shorties, BBK offroad H-pipe, American Thunder cat-back, BBK T/B 65mm, 24lb injectors, Pro-77mm MAM, pulleys, aluminum driveshaft, 3.55s, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, adjustable fuel regulator 14.4@100 MPH on G-tech;96 at track. (Sad, i know. i have stock heads)

08-03-2001, 02:14 PM	#5
Red514LX Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 119	First of all, I will agree with everyone here -- you do not need a chip at this stage of the game. I want add something additional, however. A custom burned chip for a higher hp application is great. However, I feel that the BEST way to go is with a new engine management system all together (like Speed-Pro). It's all about $$ though. A custom chip is going to run you several hundred dollars. Speed-Pro will run you several THOUSAND dollars. ------------------ Jeff Kane 1990 LX Mustang Coupe

08-04-2001, 12:37 PM	#6
LincoConti87 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tallahassee,Florida,USA Posts: 188	For the price of a chip that won't give you anything get some good headers or off road H pipe like mentioned

08-04-2001, 02:32 PM	#7
rbatson Guest Posts: n/a	I bought a ADS chip years ago and it came with 160 therm. The reason is the chip advanced the timing so they cooled the engine to compensate, to keep it from 'pinging'. Add a 180 therm and advance your timing and save your money for something worth a crap(like the h-pipe) . ------------------ Rick My 89lx(updated 7/20/2001) Sold [This message has been edited by rbatson (edited 08-04-2001).]

08-04-2001, 10:26 PM	#8
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	At this stage of the game, don't waste your $$$, a chip won't do anything for you. ------------------ '90 LX 5.0;12K original miles (no sh*&);3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside welded subs;K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini's 3" turbo hood;A/C delete; gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60')

08-04-2001, 10:53 PM	#9
TEXSN95 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: college station, tx Posts: 143	Yup chips like ADS and hypertech are junk...dont even bother. Save up for some good cheap heads like the GT40P heads. Did I mention chips are junk? ------------------ Clint L. White 95 Cobra #3637 58cc GT40X heads with mild porting, Crane 2031 cam, FRPP 65 TB, 1.7s, Cobra intake, homeade cold air, 155lph, pullies, Tokico Illuminas, C springs, GW LCAs, Kenny Brown super subs, Steeda CC plates, aluminum driveshaft, Steeda quadrant, B&M ripper, Kirban FPR, MSD6A, Taylor wires, Mac shorties, off road hpipe, 2 1/2 ultra flows w/ dumps, R hood, Euro clear corners, stock 3.08s 13.61 @ 105.7 w/ 2.22 <-- 284 rwhp / 323 rwtq

08-04-2001, 11:08 PM	#10
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	the stock H-pipe has 4 CATS, not resonators, 4 CATS. if you want to change that, i would suggest a high-flow catted H-pipe, as it provides the back pressure needed to maintain torque on a stock, or lightely modded mustang. As for a chip, it will do nothing for you on a stock mustang, and if you are gonna get one once you mod your car, get a custom burned one. ------------------ 90LX AOD Convertable: Lakewood control arms, FMS springs. Best 1/4: 15.277@92.25 (2.27 60') AIM: dinomite1, roadracestang dinomite@softhome.net