EGR plate

93SVTstang · 01-31-2001, 06:43 PM

I am planning on removing my smog pump and wanted to know if I am supposed to remove the whole EGR plate with it, plug the water line, or plug the plate itself. If anyone has detailed directions and wouldn't mind posting them it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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93 Cobra: MAC fenderwell mount cold air, BBK underdrive pulleys, 8mm plug wires, shorty headers, off road h-pipe, Borla Cat-back, centerforce clutch, hurst shifter, 3.55s, and 12* of timing

gray87GT · 01-31-2001, 07:06 PM

I second that question, and also explain what to do on a cobra intake.

withamc · 01-31-2001, 07:21 PM

I would just pull the vacuum line to the EGR valve and bypass the cooling lines to the EGR spacer.

93SVTstang · 01-31-2001, 08:07 PM

do you think you could elaborate on those directions...I don't really know what I am looking at. How do I bypass the cooling lines and can I just leave the vacuum line off or do I need to plug it up? Thanks again

93CobraR · 01-31-2001, 09:54 PM

You have a Cobra man! I wouldn't bother taking off cause it's not worth any gain, except weight lose. You have Cobra intake so the EGR is built in and theres no spacer to worry about. If it were me I would just leave it alone.

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Best time 13.012
Best MPH 104
Best 60' 1.816

Visit my site at:
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93SVTstang · 01-31-2001, 11:17 PM

So what you are saying is that there is no water running to the EGR? So the intake is not getting heated up?

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93 Cobra: MAC fenderwell mount cold air, BBK underdrive pulleys, 8mm plug wires, shorty headers, off road h-pipe, Borla Cat-back, centerforce clutch, hurst shifter, 3.55s, and 12* of timing

QuantumMotorsports · 02-01-2001, 09:37 AM

EGR is completely seperate from the Thermactor pump. I would just pull the pump and plug the thermactor wholes in the back of your heads. And pull of your thermactor lines on the passenger side of the car. If you plug all of the other vacuum holes that will be open, your EGR will still work properly. But, like I said, they are completely seperate.

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Michael Black
Quantum Motorsports
Norman, Oklahoma

1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, P&Ped heads, 2.25" custom mandrel bent dual pipes, T5 five speed tranny
15.43 @ 91.08mph (not shabby for a 3600 pound car)
60' 2.453 Street tires suck!!!

Mach 1 · 02-01-2001, 12:14 PM

Quantum is right, the thermacter system is not related to the EGR system at all. How can you own a 93 cobra, and ask if you should remove a EGR plate and plug coolant lines that your car doesnt even have? May I suggest you look under the hood and get familiar with what you want to do before asking a question. This makes it easier for you, and for us to help you.

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1993 GT/AOD
'93 Mustang GT

Green92LX · 02-01-2001, 12:33 PM

I have an idea, you could sell the car to me!!! At least I know what I'm looking at under the ***<ING HOOD!!!

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1992 5.0 LX, Edelbrock 6037 Heads, Cobra Intake,E-303, 1.6 Roller Rockers,65MM Holley TB, 75 MM Pro M Mass Air, 190 LPH FP w/ 24 lb injectors,BBK equal length shorties,offroad h-pipe,Mac Flowpath Mufflers, Pro 5.0, 3.73's,Motorsport "C" springs,welded subframe connectors, Ponies w/ 225/50 Nittos, 93 Cobra Spoiler

Daily driver: 89 Coupe with 205K plus, BBK shorties,offroad h-pipe,2-chamber flowmasters with dumps, cut and welded stock shifter...and it runs like a champ.

fordgasm · 02-01-2001, 01:20 PM

Geez...lighten up guys...93SVTstang is just looking for some information. If he wanted to be flamed, he would visit one of the other sites.

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fordgasm
CLICK HERE to see my 87 GT

93SVTstang · 02-01-2001, 08:49 PM

Green92LX, you have to excuse me, I am only 16 years old and the 93 Cobra is my first car, but hopefully when I am your age I will know everything, too.

93CobraR · 02-01-2001, 09:28 PM

Hey, I just turned 16 and my stang is my first car. But hey I got a real early start.

[This message has been edited by 93CobraR (edited 02-01-2001).]

Green92LX · 02-01-2001, 10:59 PM

OK...lets clear the air. I WISH I could have had a 93 Cobra for my first car. That is such a privelege and I hope you realize that. The ONLY thing I could recommend to you is to take awesome care of that car, don't touch a thing. People like me will respect you more for maintaining rather than modifying a car with such class.

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1992 5.0 LX, Edelbrock 6037 Heads, Cobra Intake,E-303, 1.6 Roller Rockers,65MM Holley TB, 75 MM Pro M Mass Air, 190 LPH FP w/ 24 lb injectors,BBK equal length shorties,offroad h-pipe,Mac Flowpath Mufflers, Pro 5.0, 3.73's,Motorsport "C" springs,welded subframe connectors, Ponies w/ 225/50 Nittos, 93 Cobra Spoiler

Daily driver: 89 Coupe with 205K plus, BBK shorties,offroad h-pipe,2-chamber flowmasters with dumps, cut and welded stock shifter...and it runs like a champ.

Mach 1 · 02-02-2001, 01:15 AM

yeah, you dont want to learn on a 93' cobra. Must be nice....anyway, get yourself a beater to butcher up while your learning, and leave the cobra alone..like green said.

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1993 GT/AOD
'93 Mustang GT

QuantumMotorsports · 02-02-2001, 01:11 PM

Screw that, I can't think of a better car to mod. Go for it!! Make that bad boy run 10s!!! 93 Cobras are badass, but man, there is NO CAR that doesn't need to go faster. Besides, if you don't mod it now, you won't have a chance to restore it to factory when your an old fart! Go for it man. Don't let these guys who think they know alot discourage you!!! One thing I would recommmend is to get a Haynes or Chiltons manual, and read that bad boy. You will learn a whole lot about your car. And don't be afraid to pop the hood and work on it. Change the plugs, oil, distributor cap and rotor, check the timing and advance it a bit while you're doing it. But anyway, most of all have fun. And be glad you're lucky enough to have a badass car at 16!!! I drove my moms old plymouth grand voyager mini van until I was 17!!! And my cougar used to be my brothers!! But it's the most bad *** hand me down I've ever had!!! Peace!!

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Michael Black
Quantum Motorsports
Norman, Oklahoma

1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, P&Ped heads, 2.25" custom mandrel bent dual pipes, T5 five speed tranny
15.43 @ 91.08mph (not shabby for a 3600 pound car)
60' 2.453 Street tires suck!!!

Green92LX · 02-02-2001, 02:45 PM

Hey now, isn't this a sight for learning and sharing your thoughts. I retracted my aggression towards SVT, but I still believe that a 93 Cobra isn't the car to screw $hit up on. I agree with you Quantum, you could always restore it down the road, but I know I kick myself in the a$$ for mistakes that I made in the past, and I'm only 22. I think what MACH1 said makes sense...learn from your mistakes on a $shitbox, not a Cobra, especially a 93. There aren't enough of those gems to screw any more up. I agree that every car CAN be faster, but as painful as it is for a gearhead like me to admit, some cars ARE NOT WORTH TOUCHING.

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1992 5.0 LX, Edelbrock 6037 Heads, Cobra Intake,E-303, 1.6 Roller Rockers,65MM Holley TB, 75 MM Pro M Mass Air, 190 LPH FP w/ 24 lb injectors,BBK equal length shorties,offroad h-pipe,Mac Flowpath Mufflers, Pro 5.0, 3.73's,Motorsport "C" springs,welded subframe connectors, Ponies w/ 225/50 Nittos, 93 Cobra Spoiler

Daily driver: 89 Coupe with 205K plus, BBK shorties,offroad h-pipe,2-chamber flowmasters with dumps, cut and welded stock shifter...and it runs like a champ.

spinemup · 02-02-2001, 02:53 PM

hey svt... don't mess with the emissions stuff its meant to work on the car. without it the car won't work right. you will see no performance gains. and how can you work on a car if you don't even know if you have an egr plate? i think someone sold you a fake svt because if it was real it wouldn't have a spacer or coolant lines. please for the love of god don't mess with an svt unless you know what your doing. those cars are too cool to be fooling around with. if you can afford an svt cobra than you must be able to afford to pay someone to work on it.

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THE MIGHTY NOTCH

QuantumMotorsports · 02-03-2001, 01:13 AM

I can't believe what I'm hearing, pay someone to work on your car? The only things I pay for are alignment and having tires mounted on rims, because I can't do that stuff at my house. I don't trust anyone else to do anything to my car unless I'm right there. I don't know a single person who would pass up a chance to buy a 93 cobra if it was modified. What, they're gonna say, "oh my god, no smog pump, I don't want that car!!!" No car is to nice to modify. If I saw a Cobra that was modified, and one that wasn't, I'd want the one that was modified. And the only reason I might buy the unmodified one is so that I could modify it myself. I say, if you bought the car, do what you want to do with it. Tear it up and sell it for scrap if you want. As long as it makes you happy, do it.

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Michael Black
Quantum Motorsports
Norman, Oklahoma

1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, P&Ped heads, 2.25" custom mandrel bent dual pipes, T5 five speed tranny
15.43 @ 91.08mph (not shabby for a 3600 pound car)
60' 2.453 Street tires suck!!!

chris91LX · 02-03-2001, 02:47 PM

Just wanted to cast my vote. I agree with most everyone else that you should try to maintain the svt's original condition. Or at least don't do any major mods that you can't reverse. You'll kick yourself when your older and wiser. Just my .02

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91 LX 5.0
Z t-5, 3:73 gear, Vortech 73mm Mass Air, Accufab 65mm TB, BBK underdrives, Crane HI-6S Ignition, BBK unequal length headers, Bassani x pipe, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo cat back, Kenny Brown Super Subs, Factory Five Control Arms, Mac cold air kit and more to come!

AxemanZZ · 02-03-2001, 03:18 PM

It's your car so do what you want with it. I can't think of a better car to learn on myself. You see these old farts driving around in their pristine 66GT's and such, but if it were mine it wouldn't be stock that's for d@mn sure. Who cares if it depriciates the value. When I buy a car it's not to make money off of it by selling it 10 years later. It's to make it go fast and have fun with it.

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90 Mustang LX 5.0
My Ride*My Site

01-31-2001, 06:43 PM	#1
93SVTstang Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Metairie, LA, United States Posts: 80	EGR plate I am planning on removing my smog pump and wanted to know if I am supposed to remove the whole EGR plate with it, plug the water line, or plug the plate itself. If anyone has detailed directions and wouldn't mind posting them it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ------------------ 93 Cobra: MAC fenderwell mount cold air, BBK underdrive pulleys, 8mm plug wires, shorty headers, off road h-pipe, Borla Cat-back, centerforce clutch, hurst shifter, 3.55s, and 12* of timing

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01-31-2001, 07:06 PM	#2
gray87GT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 177	I second that question, and also explain what to do on a cobra intake.

01-31-2001, 07:21 PM	#3
withamc Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 396	I would just pull the vacuum line to the EGR valve and bypass the cooling lines to the EGR spacer.

01-31-2001, 08:07 PM	#4
93SVTstang Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Metairie, LA, United States Posts: 80	do you think you could elaborate on those directions...I don't really know what I am looking at. How do I bypass the cooling lines and can I just leave the vacuum line off or do I need to plug it up? Thanks again

01-31-2001, 09:54 PM	#5
93CobraR Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,575	You have a Cobra man! I wouldn't bother taking off cause it's not worth any gain, except weight lose. You have Cobra intake so the EGR is built in and theres no spacer to worry about. If it were me I would just leave it alone. ------------------ 87 GT, 4 inch cowl hood,17x9 Cobra R's/255/45's,GT-40 heads,long tubes headers,h-pipe,Flows,BBK cold air, Mass air,70mm MAF, 1.7's, 1" spacer,underdrive pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra, Adj. fuel Reg., Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's. Best time 13.012 Best MPH 104 Best 60' 1.816 Visit my site at: http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html

01-31-2001, 11:17 PM	#6
93SVTstang Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Metairie, LA, United States Posts: 80	So what you are saying is that there is no water running to the EGR? So the intake is not getting heated up? ------------------ 93 Cobra: MAC fenderwell mount cold air, BBK underdrive pulleys, 8mm plug wires, shorty headers, off road h-pipe, Borla Cat-back, centerforce clutch, hurst shifter, 3.55s, and 12* of timing

02-01-2001, 09:37 AM	#7
QuantumMotorsports Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Norman, Oklahoma, USA Posts: 597	EGR is completely seperate from the Thermactor pump. I would just pull the pump and plug the thermactor wholes in the back of your heads. And pull of your thermactor lines on the passenger side of the car. If you plug all of the other vacuum holes that will be open, your EGR will still work properly. But, like I said, they are completely seperate. ------------------ Michael Black Quantum Motorsports Norman, Oklahoma 1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, P&Ped heads, 2.25" custom mandrel bent dual pipes, T5 five speed tranny 15.43 @ 91.08mph (not shabby for a 3600 pound car) 60' 2.453 Street tires suck!!!

02-01-2001, 12:14 PM	#8
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Quantum is right, the thermacter system is not related to the EGR system at all. How can you own a 93 cobra, and ask if you should remove a EGR plate and plug coolant lines that your car doesnt even have? May I suggest you look under the hood and get familiar with what you want to do before asking a question. This makes it easier for you, and for us to help you. ------------------ 1993 GT/AOD '93 Mustang GT

02-01-2001, 12:33 PM	#9
Green92LX Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: North Haven,CT Posts: 336	I have an idea, you could sell the car to me!!! At least I know what I'm looking at under the ***<ING HOOD!!! ------------------ 1992 5.0 LX, Edelbrock 6037 Heads, Cobra Intake,E-303, 1.6 Roller Rockers,65MM Holley TB, 75 MM Pro M Mass Air, 190 LPH FP w/ 24 lb injectors,BBK equal length shorties,offroad h-pipe,Mac Flowpath Mufflers, Pro 5.0, 3.73's,Motorsport "C" springs,welded subframe connectors, Ponies w/ 225/50 Nittos, 93 Cobra Spoiler Daily driver: 89 Coupe with 205K plus, BBK shorties,offroad h-pipe,2-chamber flowmasters with dumps, cut and welded stock shifter...and it runs like a champ.

02-01-2001, 01:20 PM	#10
fordgasm Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Clayton, North Carolina, USA Posts: 803	Geez...lighten up guys...93SVTstang is just looking for some information. If he wanted to be flamed, he would visit one of the other sites. ------------------ fordgasm CLICK HERE to see my 87 GT

02-01-2001, 08:49 PM	#11
93SVTstang Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Metairie, LA, United States Posts: 80	Green92LX, you have to excuse me, I am only 16 years old and the 93 Cobra is my first car, but hopefully when I am your age I will know everything, too.

02-01-2001, 09:28 PM	#12
93CobraR Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,575	Hey, I just turned 16 and my stang is my first car. But hey I got a real early start. [This message has been edited by 93CobraR (edited 02-01-2001).]

02-01-2001, 10:59 PM	#13
Green92LX Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: North Haven,CT Posts: 336	OK...lets clear the air. I WISH I could have had a 93 Cobra for my first car. That is such a privelege and I hope you realize that. The ONLY thing I could recommend to you is to take awesome care of that car, don't touch a thing. People like me will respect you more for maintaining rather than modifying a car with such class. ------------------ 1992 5.0 LX, Edelbrock 6037 Heads, Cobra Intake,E-303, 1.6 Roller Rockers,65MM Holley TB, 75 MM Pro M Mass Air, 190 LPH FP w/ 24 lb injectors,BBK equal length shorties,offroad h-pipe,Mac Flowpath Mufflers, Pro 5.0, 3.73's,Motorsport "C" springs,welded subframe connectors, Ponies w/ 225/50 Nittos, 93 Cobra Spoiler Daily driver: 89 Coupe with 205K plus, BBK shorties,offroad h-pipe,2-chamber flowmasters with dumps, cut and welded stock shifter...and it runs like a champ.

02-02-2001, 01:15 AM	#14
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	yeah, you dont want to learn on a 93' cobra. Must be nice....anyway, get yourself a beater to butcher up while your learning, and leave the cobra alone..like green said. ------------------ 1993 GT/AOD '93 Mustang GT

02-02-2001, 01:11 PM	#15
QuantumMotorsports Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Norman, Oklahoma, USA Posts: 597	Screw that, I can't think of a better car to mod. Go for it!! Make that bad boy run 10s!!! 93 Cobras are badass, but man, there is NO CAR that doesn't need to go faster. Besides, if you don't mod it now, you won't have a chance to restore it to factory when your an old fart! Go for it man. Don't let these guys who think they know alot discourage you!!! One thing I would recommmend is to get a Haynes or Chiltons manual, and read that bad boy. You will learn a whole lot about your car. And don't be afraid to pop the hood and work on it. Change the plugs, oil, distributor cap and rotor, check the timing and advance it a bit while you're doing it. But anyway, most of all have fun. And be glad you're lucky enough to have a badass car at 16!!! I drove my moms old plymouth grand voyager mini van until I was 17!!! And my cougar used to be my brothers!! But it's the most bad *** hand me down I've ever had!!! Peace!! ------------------ Michael Black Quantum Motorsports Norman, Oklahoma 1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, P&Ped heads, 2.25" custom mandrel bent dual pipes, T5 five speed tranny 15.43 @ 91.08mph (not shabby for a 3600 pound car) 60' 2.453 Street tires suck!!!

02-02-2001, 02:45 PM	#16
Green92LX Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: North Haven,CT Posts: 336	Hey now, isn't this a sight for learning and sharing your thoughts. I retracted my aggression towards SVT, but I still believe that a 93 Cobra isn't the car to screw $hit up on. I agree with you Quantum, you could always restore it down the road, but I know I kick myself in the a$$ for mistakes that I made in the past, and I'm only 22. I think what MACH1 said makes sense...learn from your mistakes on a $shitbox, not a Cobra, especially a 93. There aren't enough of those gems to screw any more up. I agree that every car CAN be faster, but as painful as it is for a gearhead like me to admit, some cars ARE NOT WORTH TOUCHING. ------------------ 1992 5.0 LX, Edelbrock 6037 Heads, Cobra Intake,E-303, 1.6 Roller Rockers,65MM Holley TB, 75 MM Pro M Mass Air, 190 LPH FP w/ 24 lb injectors,BBK equal length shorties,offroad h-pipe,Mac Flowpath Mufflers, Pro 5.0, 3.73's,Motorsport "C" springs,welded subframe connectors, Ponies w/ 225/50 Nittos, 93 Cobra Spoiler Daily driver: 89 Coupe with 205K plus, BBK shorties,offroad h-pipe,2-chamber flowmasters with dumps, cut and welded stock shifter...and it runs like a champ.

02-02-2001, 02:53 PM	#17
spinemup Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: middleboro,ma, usa Posts: 734	hey svt... don't mess with the emissions stuff its meant to work on the car. without it the car won't work right. you will see no performance gains. and how can you work on a car if you don't even know if you have an egr plate? i think someone sold you a fake svt because if it was real it wouldn't have a spacer or coolant lines. please for the love of god don't mess with an svt unless you know what your doing. those cars are too cool to be fooling around with. if you can afford an svt cobra than you must be able to afford to pay someone to work on it. ------------------ THE MIGHTY NOTCH

02-03-2001, 01:13 AM	#18
QuantumMotorsports Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Norman, Oklahoma, USA Posts: 597	I can't believe what I'm hearing, pay someone to work on your car? The only things I pay for are alignment and having tires mounted on rims, because I can't do that stuff at my house. I don't trust anyone else to do anything to my car unless I'm right there. I don't know a single person who would pass up a chance to buy a 93 cobra if it was modified. What, they're gonna say, "oh my god, no smog pump, I don't want that car!!!" No car is to nice to modify. If I saw a Cobra that was modified, and one that wasn't, I'd want the one that was modified. And the only reason I might buy the unmodified one is so that I could modify it myself. I say, if you bought the car, do what you want to do with it. Tear it up and sell it for scrap if you want. As long as it makes you happy, do it. ------------------ Michael Black Quantum Motorsports Norman, Oklahoma 1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, P&Ped heads, 2.25" custom mandrel bent dual pipes, T5 five speed tranny 15.43 @ 91.08mph (not shabby for a 3600 pound car) 60' 2.453 Street tires suck!!!

02-03-2001, 02:47 PM	#19
chris91LX Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Suburban Chicago, Hanover Park Posts: 695	Just wanted to cast my vote. I agree with most everyone else that you should try to maintain the svt's original condition. Or at least don't do any major mods that you can't reverse. You'll kick yourself when your older and wiser. Just my .02 ------------------ 91 LX 5.0 Z t-5, 3:73 gear, Vortech 73mm Mass Air, Accufab 65mm TB, BBK underdrives, Crane HI-6S Ignition, BBK unequal length headers, Bassani x pipe, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo cat back, Kenny Brown Super Subs, Factory Five Control Arms, Mac cold air kit and more to come!

02-03-2001, 03:18 PM	#20
AxemanZZ Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 984	It's your car so do what you want with it. I can't think of a better car to learn on myself. You see these old farts driving around in their pristine 66GT's and such, but if it were mine it wouldn't be stock that's for d@mn sure. Who cares if it depriciates the value. When I buy a car it's not to make money off of it by selling it 10 years later. It's to make it go fast and have fun with it. ------------------ 90 Mustang LX 5.0 My Ride*My Site