Windsor into a Fox Body

msb2426 · 06-11-2002, 10:41 AM

Hi, I have recently purchased an 85 mustang gt body without motor or trans. I already have a 351 windsor motor and tranny that I'm wanting to put in the car. I have heard the oil pan will have to be changed. Im by no means a mechanic but I have changed engines in cars before, however, I always put back the same size engine that I pulled out. I would appreciate if you could tell me what all I should expect when putting the windsor into a fox body car. Oh, and the trans that I'm putting in is a c4.
Thanks for any light you can shed on the subject.

Michael

shadowblue89 · 06-11-2002, 06:11 PM

msb2426,
The motor that was in that mustang was a windsor. Only it was a 302. The motor and trans should bolt up without a problem. As for the oil pan you need a double hump oil pan and a new oil pick up tube. Summit and a lot of others sell this as a kit to fit the mustang.

Are you going to stay with a carb or EFI?
Do you have all of the acc.? (i.e. Alt, Power Steering)

Just wait a few and I am sure someone that has done this before will reply with a little better info for you.

Unit 5302 · 06-12-2002, 01:44 AM

You may have hood clearance issues if you don't use some special motor mounts that drop the height of the 351 down a little.

drudis · 06-12-2002, 09:50 AM

See www.alternativeauto.com they have an article about 351-W swaps.
I did a 351-W in my 1978 Zephyr. You will need a new LTD-II style oilpan, at least. Headers and such arent really mandatory.

Stang_ROTY · 06-12-2002, 11:14 AM

Windsor is just the name of the city where the engine's were built. Obviously, the 351 Cleveland's were built in Ohio. As far as the swap goes, a lot depend on if you are running EFI or a carb. EFI will cost a lot more. I put a 393 in my car and needed to get new oil pan, headers, distributor, etc. The h-pipe needed to be bent to accomodate the extra 1.5 in. of engine width. I also needed to get a EFI 351 lower base to match the Edelbrock upper plenum and a hood to accomodate the extra inch or so of engine height. The biggest decision you need to make is if you are going to go EFI or carb. Good luck!

06-11-2002, 10:41 AM	#1
msb2426 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5	Windsor into a Fox Body Hi, I have recently purchased an 85 mustang gt body without motor or trans. I already have a 351 windsor motor and tranny that I'm wanting to put in the car. I have heard the oil pan will have to be changed. Im by no means a mechanic but I have changed engines in cars before, however, I always put back the same size engine that I pulled out. I would appreciate if you could tell me what all I should expect when putting the windsor into a fox body car. Oh, and the trans that I'm putting in is a c4. Thanks for any light you can shed on the subject. Michael

06-11-2002, 06:11 PM	#2
shadowblue89 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 286	msb2426, The motor that was in that mustang was a windsor. Only it was a 302. The motor and trans should bolt up without a problem. As for the oil pan you need a double hump oil pan and a new oil pick up tube. Summit and a lot of others sell this as a kit to fit the mustang. Are you going to stay with a carb or EFI? Do you have all of the acc.? (i.e. Alt, Power Steering) Just wait a few and I am sure someone that has done this before will reply with a little better info for you. __________________ Charlie 89 GT 5spd

06-12-2002, 09:50 AM	#4
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	See www.alternativeauto.com they have an article about 351-W swaps. I did a 351-W in my 1978 Zephyr. You will need a new LTD-II style oilpan, at least. Headers and such arent really mandatory. __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

06-12-2002, 11:14 AM	#5
Stang_ROTY Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Berkshire County - Massachusetts Posts: 735	Windsor is just the name of the city where the engine's were built. Obviously, the 351 Cleveland's were built in Ohio. As far as the swap goes, a lot depend on if you are running EFI or a carb. EFI will cost a lot more. I put a 393 in my car and needed to get new oil pan, headers, distributor, etc. The h-pipe needed to be bent to accomodate the extra 1.5 in. of engine width. I also needed to get a EFI 351 lower base to match the Edelbrock upper plenum and a hood to accomodate the extra inch or so of engine height. The biggest decision you need to make is if you are going to go EFI or carb. Good luck! __________________ Red 1993 GT Street Machine Best E.T. - 12.41/Best MPH = 108 Engine is a 1969 351 block w/393 stroker kit. Dynamic Roller Myte C4, 8 pt cage. Edlebrock Performer heads and Victor Jr. EFI, FRPP 30lb injectors & Cartech fuel system. MSD ignition. Sothside Machine bars & Sub-frames, adj. upper's, 3.73's, Koni rear shocks, much more

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06-12-2002, 01:44 AM	#3
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	You may have hood clearance issues if you don't use some special motor mounts that drop the height of the 351 down a little.