4 lug or 5 lug

kscoggins83 · 11-26-2001, 12:30 PM

What year/model's in the 87-93 mustangs have 5 lug bolt patterns. I am gonnna invest in my first mustang at the first of the year. I want one with a 5 lug pattern if possible b/c i wanna put new model mustang wheels on it. I guess if i get one that is 4 lug, i will change rear ends anyways so i will go ahead and convert it to 5 lug. I know this isnt the right forum but the forum it should go in only had 1 post in it. I am a newbie to these boards but i am a long time member at rangerforum.com.
Thanx 4 any help guyz,
Kevin

bosco · 11-26-2001, 12:35 PM

im pretty positive that all 87-93 are 4 lug, unless someone converted

NO SLO PK · 11-26-2001, 11:46 PM

Actually, the 93 Cobra came with 5 lugs, as did all Saleen Mustangs.

Since you're already a member of the Ranger forum, you should know that I converted my 4 lug rear to 5 lugs by using Ranger brakes. The drums are 10" x 2-1/4, which is better than the stock 9" x 2 brakes. All you need are the backing plates, drums, and axles from a 6 cylinder Ranger.

The fronts are easily converted by using discs from an '85 Lincoln LSC. Any parts store should have them. Its a bolt-on deal.

Hope this helps.

tireburner163 · 11-27-2001, 01:53 PM

If you use lincoin rotors up front you can't run 96+ Gt rims or 98+ Cobra rims. They won't clear the dust caps on the lincoin rotors. You could install 1/2" spacers, but you would need longer wheel studs for safety's sake.

If you want to run 96+ GT rims or 98+ Cobra rims you'll need to swap in the spindels, rotors, and calapers from a 94 or 95 Mustang(dosen't have to be a GT)

fiveohpatrol · 11-27-2001, 01:57 PM

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, and axles from a 6 cylinder Ranger.

he forgot to say that both axles have to be from the ranger's drivers side

NO SLO PK · 11-27-2001, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by tireburner163
If you use lincoin rotors up front you can't run 96+ Gt rims or 98+ Cobra rims. They won't clear the dust caps on the lincoin rotors. You could install 1/2" spacers, but you would need longer wheel studs for safety's sake.

If you want to run 96+ GT rims or 98+ Cobra rims you'll need to swap in the spindels, rotors, and calapers from a 94 or 95 Mustang(dosen't have to be a GT)

The Lincoln rotors definitely fit the Cobra R wheels with 5.95" backspacing. I'm guessing that other Mustang wheels will fit, since they are narrower than the Cobra R wheels and have similar offset.

kscoggins83 · 11-27-2001, 10:51 PM

Thanx guys. Now all i need to do is find me a stang for the rite price!!! Looks like i'll either convert the stang or ill put those wheels and my ranger cause im sure i cant afford a cobra, especially insurance too. This is an awesome board and site that you guys have.

Later,
Kevin

93cobra tt · 11-28-2001, 01:29 AM

Actually, not to nit pick, but the 93 cobra has 4 lug axles, not 5 lug. The 93 Cobra R had the 5 lug. And 87 was the first year that the Saleen mustangs started to use 5 lug axles. BTW to convert a fox body to 5 lug, disc brakes all around, will cost you near $2000- thats rotors, spindles, axle shafts, hubs, calipers, master cylinder, proportioning valve, hardware etc. Its quite expensive. Hope this helps.

Johnphin · 11-28-2001, 03:43 AM

Other than a limited selection of wheels that will fit, is there a real performance reason to upgrade to 5 lugs over 4? If it's a weakness issue, would it work to just have stronger lugs pressed into the stock brakes?

Mach 1 · 11-28-2001, 03:57 AM

No, you dont need them from a strength perspective. My friend ran mid 10's pulling the wheels with 4 lugs, and never had a problem.

NO SLO PK · 11-28-2001, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by 93cobra tt
Actually, not to nit pick, but the 93 cobra has 4 lug axles, not 5 lug. The 93 Cobra R had the 5 lug. And 87 was the first year that the Saleen mustangs started to use 5 lug axles. BTW to convert a fox body to 5 lug, disc brakes all around, will cost you near $2000- thats rotors, spindles, axle shafts, hubs, calipers, master cylinder, proportioning valve, hardware etc. Its quite expensive. Hope this helps.

My bad, I thought the standard 93 Cobra was equipped with 5 lugs as well as the 85-86 Saleens.

Going with 5 lug discs doesn't have to cost $2,000 if you can secure used parts from a later model, I believe 96-98.

kscoggins83 · 11-28-2001, 11:37 AM

Mach 1, what part of georgia are you from. I am about 20 minutes north of rome georgia, if u know where that is, in the northwesteren part. Also i should have known the 93 cobra's are 4 lug because a friend of mine has a 93 lx5.0 with the 93 cobra's on it.
Later,
Kevin

Mach 1 · 11-29-2001, 10:04 AM

Im about 20 miles south of MAcon. I wish I lived up there in your area. It sucks down here.

kscoggins83 · 11-29-2001, 10:55 PM

Thats cool man. Do yall know of anyone on here that is from around northwest Georgia ??

L8er

kscoggins83 · 11-29-2001, 10:57 PM

Thats cool man. Do yall know of anyone on here that is from around northwest Georgia ?? Its actually not that bad up here. I actually live about 30-45 minutes away from a 1/8th mile track near Chattanooga, its Brainerd. I would love to go to a race at commerce though, i heard it was tha shiznit !!!!

L8er

Mach 1 · 11-30-2001, 08:43 AM

Commerce is a real nice track. I was there for Fun Ford weekend a couple times. You have the mountains and a little cooler weather than down here, where its flat, ugly, and too dam hot!

2FastLX · 11-30-2001, 10:50 AM

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Go the easy route and buy a 95 Mustang with a 5.0L in it.

11-26-2001, 12:30 PM	#1
kscoggins83 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Northwest Ga Posts: 5	4 lug or 5 lug What year/model's in the 87-93 mustangs have 5 lug bolt patterns. I am gonnna invest in my first mustang at the first of the year. I want one with a 5 lug pattern if possible b/c i wanna put new model mustang wheels on it. I guess if i get one that is 4 lug, i will change rear ends anyways so i will go ahead and convert it to 5 lug. I know this isnt the right forum but the forum it should go in only had 1 post in it. I am a newbie to these boards but i am a long time member at rangerforum.com. Thanx 4 any help guyz, Kevin

11-26-2001, 12:35 PM	#2
bosco Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: austin TX Posts: 115	im pretty positive that all 87-93 are 4 lug, unless someone converted __________________ '87 coupe, 308, world product windsor jr. heads, comp cams 220@.050/.512 @110 deg., roller cam,crane full roller rockers, 4bbl 600cfm holly carb,1 inch spacer, wiend aluminum intake, pullies, msd distributer/ignition, 1 5/8 bbk shorties, off road h-pipe 2 chamber flows, 3.73 posi rear end, P.S.T control arms, steeda tri-ax shifter, t-5, auto meter guages, and more to come (hopefully )

11-26-2001, 11:46 PM	#3
NO SLO PK Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Arcadia, CA, USA Posts: 731	Actually, the 93 Cobra came with 5 lugs, as did all Saleen Mustangs. Since you're already a member of the Ranger forum, you should know that I converted my 4 lug rear to 5 lugs by using Ranger brakes. The drums are 10" x 2-1/4, which is better than the stock 9" x 2 brakes. All you need are the backing plates, drums, and axles from a 6 cylinder Ranger. The fronts are easily converted by using discs from an '85 Lincoln LSC. Any parts store should have them. Its a bolt-on deal. Hope this helps. __________________ Russ L '91 LX - 331 w/ Procharger '03 Cobra Convertible - Pullied '94 Lightning '65 Mustang Coupe

11-27-2001, 01:53 PM	#4
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	If you use lincoin rotors up front you can't run 96+ Gt rims or 98+ Cobra rims. They won't clear the dust caps on the lincoin rotors. You could install 1/2" spacers, but you would need longer wheel studs for safety's sake. If you want to run 96+ GT rims or 98+ Cobra rims you'll need to swap in the spindels, rotors, and calapers from a 94 or 95 Mustang(dosen't have to be a GT) __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

11-27-2001, 10:51 PM	#7
kscoggins83 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Northwest Ga Posts: 5	Thanx guys. Now all i need to do is find me a stang for the rite price!!! Looks like i'll either convert the stang or ill put those wheels and my ranger cause im sure i cant afford a cobra, especially insurance too. This is an awesome board and site that you guys have. Later, Kevin Last edited by kscoggins83; 11-27-2001 at 10:58 PM..

11-28-2001, 01:29 AM	#8
93cobra tt Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: CT Posts: 12	Actually, not to nit pick, but the 93 cobra has 4 lug axles, not 5 lug. The 93 Cobra R had the 5 lug. And 87 was the first year that the Saleen mustangs started to use 5 lug axles. BTW to convert a fox body to 5 lug, disc brakes all around, will cost you near $2000- thats rotors, spindles, axle shafts, hubs, calipers, master cylinder, proportioning valve, hardware etc. Its quite expensive. Hope this helps. __________________ Here, F-Body, Corvette, Grand National- I've got two suprises for you.

11-28-2001, 03:43 AM	#9
Johnphin Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 2	Other than a limited selection of wheels that will fit, is there a real performance reason to upgrade to 5 lugs over 4? If it's a weakness issue, would it work to just have stronger lugs pressed into the stock brakes?

11-28-2001, 03:57 AM	#10
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	No, you dont need them from a strength perspective. My friend ran mid 10's pulling the wheels with 4 lugs, and never had a problem. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

11-28-2001, 11:37 AM	#12
kscoggins83 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Northwest Ga Posts: 5	Mach 1, what part of georgia are you from. I am about 20 minutes north of rome georgia, if u know where that is, in the northwesteren part. Also i should have known the 93 cobra's are 4 lug because a friend of mine has a 93 lx5.0 with the 93 cobra's on it. Later, Kevin __________________ 1996 Ford Ranger 3.0 5-speed, K&N, Lowered 2-5, Rollin on Chrome 16's. Whoever said " If it ain't broke, don't fix it", just dont get it do they ?

11-29-2001, 10:04 AM	#13
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Im about 20 miles south of MAcon. I wish I lived up there in your area. It sucks down here. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

11-29-2001, 10:55 PM	#14
kscoggins83 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Northwest Ga Posts: 5	Thats cool man. Do yall know of anyone on here that is from around northwest Georgia ?? L8er __________________ 1996 Ford Ranger 3.0 5-speed, K&N, Lowered 2-5, Rollin on Chrome 16's. Whoever said " If it ain't broke, don't fix it", just dont get it do they ?

11-29-2001, 10:57 PM	#15
kscoggins83 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Northwest Ga Posts: 5	Thats cool man. Do yall know of anyone on here that is from around northwest Georgia ?? Its actually not that bad up here. I actually live about 30-45 minutes away from a 1/8th mile track near Chattanooga, its Brainerd. I would love to go to a race at commerce though, i heard it was tha shiznit !!!! L8er __________________ 1996 Ford Ranger 3.0 5-speed, K&N, Lowered 2-5, Rollin on Chrome 16's. Whoever said " If it ain't broke, don't fix it", just dont get it do they ?

11-30-2001, 08:43 AM	#16
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Commerce is a real nice track. I was there for Fun Ford weekend a couple times. You have the mountains and a little cooler weather than down here, where its flat, ugly, and too dam hot! __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

11-30-2001, 10:50 AM	#17
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	Here is some very helpful information: http://svo73mm.cjb.net/ Go the easy route and buy a 95 Mustang with a 5.0L in it. __________________ Project: 1988 Coupe - EFI 5.8L Twin Turbo with Victor intake, Canfield heads, F303 cam, March aluminum underdrive pulleys, TKO (or T56 if funds permit), PBR twin piston calipers and 13" rotors up front, 94 Cobra rear calipers and 12" rotors on the rear, 3.73's, Griggs K-member, tubular front control arms, torque arm and panhard bar, polished 99 Cobra wheels. "The GR-40 kit installation is now complete, and the humble Fox-chassis car will now out-corner and out-stop a ZR-1 or a Viper, and support massive horsepower additions with perfect balance." Griggs Racing ICQ# 42269241