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skiwesser 12-04-2002 12:26 AM

Do I need new head bolts?
 
I took off the heads for a valve job and some porting and milling.
Do I need new head bolts when I reinstall them?
I'm not sure of this and cannot find this info in the haynes manual or anywhere?

gofastmercury 12-04-2002 12:33 AM

If read any "how to" book, they tell you to get new bolts.
I just think they like to cover their own *ss. And so will I, maybe you should too...

toevil1 12-04-2002 12:44 AM

I heard that the head bolts are torque sensitive and should be changed once they are removed. I would buy new ones, they will run you about $40 - 60.

PKRWUD 12-04-2002 12:49 AM

They stretch when torqued, and should never be reused. People do, but people blow head gaskets, too.

:)

Take care,
~Chris

NotchJohnson 12-04-2002 09:42 AM

You might as well pick up a good set of ARP's they are just as much as Fords one-time-use torque to yield bolts.

302 LX Eric 12-04-2002 03:25 PM

Is this ture for studs too?

Thanks,
E

PKRWUD 12-04-2002 06:13 PM

that's a damn good question. I've never heard that about them, but it doesn't mean it doesn't apply.

Hmmmmm.

fiveohpatrol 12-04-2002 06:53 PM

Chris, how many times would you reccomend re-using ARP head bolts before replacing them?

PKRWUD 12-04-2002 09:41 PM

For mild mods, 3 or 4 times. For less than 6 pounds of boost, twice. for more than 6 pounds of boost, once.

This is just an off the top suggestion, for an engine with a few miles inbetween teardowns.

Take care,
~Chris

Mach 1 12-04-2002 10:14 PM

i have re-used stock head bolts with no problems what so ever, so if your on a tight budget, i say reuse them.

fiveohpatrol 12-04-2002 11:00 PM

being in college, I know all about the tight buget thing. And altough some people have been lucky with the stock bolts, I opted to get ARP's. They're only about $40, which is cheaper than if you blow a head gasket (atleast $50 in gaskets and materials, not to mention wasted time)

Dark_5.0 12-04-2002 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mach 1
i have re-used stock head bolts with no problems what so ever, so if your on a tight budget, i say reuse them.
I reused mine too, so far with no problems.

John R. Mustang 12-05-2002 05:45 PM

I've reused the stock ones with no problems but a friend of mine reused his stock ones and about 20,000 miles later had coolant leaking out of the back of he head. It turned out to be a broken head bolt! I say if you've got the money get the ARP's, it's a good investment.

RoadWarrior 12-06-2002 09:54 AM

I reused the ones in my 82 a couple pf times and never had a problem. On the new engine i opted for the arp's though. So if youve got a few $$ go for the arp's but otherwise just use the stock ones.

chico 12-06-2002 06:09 PM

If your staying close to stock OK reuse once....you are asking for trouble (blown head gaskets, comp. loss, etc.) reusing head bolts if your pushing a little HP.. For $60 go with the ARP studed headbolts...well worth the investment

89 Black GT 12-06-2002 10:31 PM

it depends on what year your engine is - 91 and later used torque to yeild bolts - some 90's did aswell

You can tell by the bolt head - if the washer is integral to the bolt (one-piece) then they are not tourque to yield

if the washer is sepearte then they are tourque to yield and must be replaced

BTW I am sure this is the way it works (i know you tell by the washer but cant say for a 100% which way is which, i don't have the info right now but I'll double check tommorrow)


I reused mine in my 89 as they were not tourque to yield - i also used liquid teflon on them aswell (car not here so i cant look to double check)

Ford has a tsb on this


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